Qatar Qualifying. Round 1 .2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 10 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think it's good. See if he can crush the competition at Qatar and then give all of the credit to the bike. Make up a bunch of baloney about how Preziosi has found a little something extra with the reliability rules. If he can win at Jerez, he will really have people believing it's the bike. Rossi and Dani will start upsetting the engineering work at Yamaha and Honda by demanding a bunch of changes they don't need.

the bike was fine last season er and the season before.......they had problems in other areas

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 10 2010, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the bike was fine last season er and the season before.......they had problems in other areas
Sure the bike was fine in 2008; they needed to discard the new 2008 engine and return to the 2007 engine, after problems including a complete engine failure, for several rounds post qatar. I must have forgotten the FIM regulation re mechanical or tyre problems only occurring for valentino. No-one, including casey in particular, has said there were bike issues last year

FP2 Coverage looks a bit thin today
Nothing on Eurosport till 20.00 uk for 125qp
DSF Have some of the FP2 For Motogp

125ccFP2..16:00 - 16:40..UK/GMTimes

MotoGPFP2..16:55 - 17:55

Moto2FP2..18:10 - 19:10


BBC Red Button 19:50-23:00 MotoGP Qualifying.Sky/Cable/Freesat etc
Don't forget anyone with a sky box you get bbc red button even without subscribing to sky
Freeview box has Motogp Quali only at 22.00 on ch 301

Brit Eurosport-1..20.00

125ccQP..20:00 - 20:40

MotoGPQP..20:55 - 21:55

Moto2QP..22:10 - 22:55

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Apr 10 2010, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh !! do tell me what you are interpreting to mean I'm sure it will be an interesting tale
Er, I suppose you could conclude that he uses it quite heavily, unlike mos of the other riders out there - since it was glowing red hot, which is another thing I've been trying to get across.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 10 2010, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Er, I suppose you could conclude that he uses it quite heavily, unlike mos of the other riders out there - since it was glowing red hot, which is another thing I've been trying to get across.
You would think baz might see this particular colour very well

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 10 2010, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You would think baz might see this particular colour very well
Actually, it's indistinguishable from everything else through a red lens - everythings the same colour to BM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Apr 10 2010, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sure the bike was fine in 2008; they needed to discard the new 2008 engine and return to the 2007 engine, after problems including a complete engine failure, for several rounds post qatar. I must have forgotten the FIM regulation re mechanical or tyre problems only occurring for valentino. No-one, including casey in particular, has said there were bike issues last year
Most of the problems in 08 were down to set up (besides the one motor failure) and a lack of response to Yamaha and rossi upping their games. Had they continued with proper development on the 07 machine they may have run away with it again, why they didn't? Who knows, maybe they should have listened to loris a little more as well as their steps with cs. We all know what has happened to other world class riders on the factory duck......My tongue was firmly in my cheek in my response to lex's fantasy

So far only Yamaha has proven to me that they really do listen to their riders and teams. By doing this they now have the best machine in the paddock, having the best rider and development team in gp also helps

If anyone gets to see MotoGp FP2,(i might get some coverage not sure)
can you post if there any Crash's,Engine Failures not bothered about running off track. just chucking it down the road.ty

if there are any in FP2 maybe it will be mentioned in Qualifying which will cover it.but u never know

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 10 2010, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Most of the problems in 08 were down to set up (besides the one motor failure) and a lack of response to Yamaha and rossi upping their games. Had they continued with proper development on the 07 machine they may have run away with it again, why they didn't?
Set up problems which disappeared within about 1 race after they changed the engine +/- electronics?.

No-one seriously disputes that valentino is the best rider ( at this moment in time anyway ).
I have only followed GP bike racing for 25 years or so, but I have always assumed that the whole game in the sport was to develop the best bike (and the best tyres prior to 2008) and to get the best rider to ride the bike and develop the bike and tyres. I have absolutely no problem with valentino winning the 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2005 championships on definitely the best bike and tyres, and the 2008 and 2009 championships on quite likely the best bike and equal tyres, particularly since he obviously mostly significantly contributed to the quality of the bike and/or tyres. What I object to is the hypocrisy of those of your ilk who complain about his purported disadvantages in 2006 and 2007, and acclaim him for winning the 2004 championship on what was possibly only nearly the best bike. He and jb were in their 3rd year at yamaha in 2006, and their 4th in 2007, and he was there entirely by his own choice; presumably he is only responsible when things go well at yamaha, not when they go badly. Ducati/bridgestone did fairly clearly have a tyre advantage in 2007, but only because ducati took a punt on the then inferior tyre manufacturer and worked with them for several years to attain supremacy. I should point out that when it became obvious the bridgestones were superior rossi immediately demanded that he be allowed to switch to these tyres which he had no part in developing, with which I don't have much problem; I do have a problem with ducati/stoner then very likely being denied (I am sure entirely coincidentally ) by the single tyre rule the bridgestone tyres developed to particularly suit their bike, and being denied the chance to re-develop the best tyres again with michelin which they were very happy to attempt.

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video running at the gp site

1.55.8 few mins in stoner he's had his weetabix for breakfast

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Apr 10 2010, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No-one seriously disputes that valentino is the best rider ( at this moment in time anyway
Um, don't be so sure of that. He's around here somewhere today.

Lorenzo back out after having gone in before finishing one lap with a dissappointed head shake.

lorenzo slow
rossi .4 off stoner following 2 back markers.more to come

rossi now .1 off stoner and giving bautista n kallio a tow

Lorenzo back in. Having a ..... session.

stoner looking down at the bike going into the pits waving his arms not a happy camper

Stoner crying. Adrianna is a no show

Adrianna is seen on haydens lap at the vip village cafeteria