2024 Round 13: Gran Premio Red Bull di San Marino e della Riviera di Rimini San Marino - Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli

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I disagree respectfully.

Marquez also beat him on the RCV at Misano when he and Quartararo were fighting for the championship. Didn’t affect his championship then and I doubt it will now.

Sometimes you just have to let go when you consider the risk/ reward ratio.
All good. I'm just thinking its apple and oranges, seasons back when the RCV could be wrestled around the track to Marquez's advantage and Pecco did not have actual experience on the RCV, so would have been less capable of calculating the strengths and weaknesses of the bike compared to the Duc he was riding at the time. I was speculating that Pecco might well be dismayed by the prospect of being beaten on last year's bike, especially given his intimate familiarity with the '23 bike and his knowledge of the advantages he enjoys as a result of all the upgrades and refinements on the '24 bike. I'm not saying he's going go hang himself, but this knowledge is bound to chip at his confidence.
 
Imagine peccos face when he shares the box with Marquez next year but the 1 on the bike of the latter.

Also at some point of the race pecco was 0.189 behind marquez but it felt like he bailed out of going into a fight with another Marquez again. Probably the smart move but also maybe marquez already got into his head. In the end marquez had superior pace but this time it was in peccos backyard and in the end it was dry and not slippery…all whilst being on a gp23. Next year they will be on the same bike
 
Marc is now in there for the fight of the title, after the Misano win. Long way to go and it starts to shake up pretty good now.
 
This is a great post.

People forget this is a business at the end of the day and teams make business decisions based on sponsors and other variables. If anyone has worked in, or been involved in a corporate environment, people with the appearance of Canet are generally not looked on favorably. One can argue whether this is right or wrong, but it's reality. Can't change it.
Exactly. Canet is free to express himself however he wishes with regards to tattoos. But, equally, teams, sponsors and companies are free to not hire him.

Freedom of expression is not freedom from consequences.
Sometimes you just have to let go when you consider the risk/ reward ratio.
Exactly, I think Pecco played the smart game today but he was gracious enough to admit he had nothing for Marc.
 
Re: Canet

His body and he can do what he wants yes, but his “Bow tie” celebration was a protest against MotoGP teams who declined on him because of his tattoos.

You can’t simultaneously bang on the “My choice” drum for self expression and cry about conservative corporate types turning you down because you don’t have the marketable look they’re looking for.

Also, you have a Spanish passport. There’s a billion and one of them on the grid.
Unless he has a giant swastika somewhere I can't really imagine the tattoos are the reason Canet hasn't been promoted yet. It probably has more to do with his lack of consistency and inability to get a win in his first four seasons as a Moto2 rider.
 
Marc is now in there for the fight of the title, after the Misano win. Long way to go and it starts to shake up pretty good now.
I don't think so. Aragon was something special, but this race showed Marc still doesn't have the bike to battle for the title. If it wasn't for his exceptional talent and willingness to take a huge risk during the rain shower he never would've taken the lead.
The way this race played out actually reminded me a lot of his first comeback victory at the Sachsenring in 21.
 
Unless he has a giant swastika somewhere I can't really imagine the tattoos are the reason Canet hasn't been promoted yet. It probably has more to do with his lack of consistency and inability to get a win in his first four seasons as a Moto2 rider.
He literally said the tattoos are the reason he got passed on, in several interviews.
 
If you look at it from Pecco's view, he has just finished a weekend he previously thought was his to lose.

The first race got away from him due to a bad start and tyre pressure. The second due to weather.

While in the back of his head, he still remembers the weekend in Spain where he was shafted by qualifying third and placed on a part of the track where he couldn't cope with neither am the top Ducatis. And then ended up with being hit and injured.
 
I don't think so. Aragon was something special, but this race showed Marc still doesn't have the bike to battle for the title. If it wasn't for his exceptional talent and willingness to take a huge risk during the rain shower he never would've taken the lead.
The way this race played out actually reminded me a lot of his first comeback victory at the Sachsenring in 21.
His pace in the dry is close to Bagnaia and Martin, he doesn’t need much to go wrong for them to be in it, and they both have some talent for making things go wrong of their own accord.
 
I noticed that once it got wet Miller appeared in the front group and as it dried he faded. Looking at the lap chart I was surprised to see he overtook Marc on one lap
Miller
Start 12th
Laps 1-6 7th-8th battling with Bezzecchi, Acosta crashed
Lap 7 4th in front of Marc
Laps 8-11 3rd despite Marc overtaking him
Laps 12-14 4th
Laps 15-17 5th
Laps 18-21 6th
Laps 22-25 7th
Laps 26-27 8th
 
Bagnaia talks about 'disaster' race end as pain set in.


Personally I find it hard to see the result as a 'disaster'. Personally I think it's quite common for riders to big up their problems to excuse being beaten by other people. If Bagnaia was in pain then this explains the finish a bit. But, 'disaster'? I think not.

If the word 'disaster' is removed, what he says sounds entirely reasonable to me.
 
I don't think so. Aragon was something special, but this race showed Marc still doesn't have the bike to battle for the title. If it wasn't for his exceptional talent and willingness to take a huge risk during the rain shower he never would've taken the lead.
The way this race played out actually reminded me a lot of his first comeback victory at the Sachsenring in 21.
I would agree mostly, except for the fact that sionce Aragon, he and his crew chief have said they went in a different direction and 'found a good setting' which seems to have carried over to Misano.
Also, as JPS notes (post quoted below), once it dried out again, no one had an answer for Marc. He sent a new lap record 3/4 way into the race.

I am aware of not trying to sound like a fanboy, and granted Pecco was carrying injuries and likely playing safe, but it was a sensational performance.
I don't get it though. Like 85% of pro athletes have tattoos and unlike in MotoGP you can actually see them in other sports.
There is a difference between some tattoos and what Canet has though...
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I believe Marc broke Pecco when he started churning out 1:31's. For ....'s sake, he set the all-time Misano MotoGP lap record on lap 20.
 

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