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At the midpoint of the season

Have to be fair as I have not watched the full year live but rather in dribs and drabs when possible but .......


Marquez for me is the biggest surprise packet - not because I doubted his ability (they guy is a freak) but for the way in which he has managed races but also managed the season. His maturity has been awesome to witness both in the way he now settles for position rather than pushes above or over the limit and ends up in the gravel, but also for the way in which he handled all of the off track distractions over the last 9 or so months. The guy is still young but is showing an extremely cool, calm and collected mindset but special mention also to his team who seem to be working well with him and reminding him that finishes are better than fuckups (I really dwell on the comment post Assen where he said 'the team told me 40 times not to crash')

Whilst some are saying that JL has disappointed, for me Pedrosa takes that mantle and I came into this year with decent hopes for the guy. No doubt his issues are the bike or at least tyre related but this guy is talented and yet has been riding around in positions that we are criticising Lorenzo for doing.

JL I am not sure. In some ways I believe that he has done reasonably well given the off track distractions and his treatment by Yamaha and the fans as after all he is still second in the chase and has victories. Couple with the loss of his preferred or seeming preferred tyre he seems to have suffered a fair bit of bad luck or bad management, but still he is in the chase so it cannot be all bad. But, the last three or more like two races have been very disappointing as there is no doubt he has the capability to do better but whatever the issue may be (tyres/confidence etc) it needs to be rectified and quick else it will look like a dummy spit and toys from the pram response.

Rossi has for me been Rossi. It is difficult to mark high or low as he is always there or thereabouts but he has not done crap, but nor really excelled (sorry to the yellow masses) as he is still a few points behind in the title despite having shown glimpses, but glimpses are not enough. In terms of DNF and more so race crashes this has been a very un-Rossi like year and as such one could ask is he pushing further than he has before or are we seeing a combination of bad luck. Rossi will still finish top 3 unless something major goes on and next year will be the #1 within his team from the get go plus have a year additional on the Michelin so will do better.

Of the rest, well Vinales has both pleased and disappointed as he like many of the 'next' brigade show glimpses but then all to often those glimpses end in the gravel or way down the order. Plus it is difficult to judge many of these guys as the level of equipment is debatable and many are clearly still somewhat finding their feet with the generic electronics and new tyres.

Yes a bit of a sit on the fence effort but it has to also be said that the wet weather has allowed some of the lesser knowns to get their 15 minutes of fame and personally I have greatly enjoyed seeing the likes of Petrucci, Hernandez, Redding and Miller getting their names amongst the leading 4 and giving us a small chance to barrack for the underdog.
 
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For me, after the events at the end of last season i had Marquez down to win the title this year so i'm not surprised to see him ahead at the half way point,he has grown up a lot since his first season,Lorenzo surprises me though,he seems to get totally psyched out if the conditions aren't to his liking,when they are it's like nobody can touch him, but if it rains, forget it,I would love to see a Ducati get a victory,can't see Pedrosa getting one and hope Rossi never gets one again,as for Stoner, i can't see him ever coming back to race GP's,i wish he would because in my opinion he retired far too young but i respect his reasons for doing so,how great would it be to see him on the same bike as Marquez or the Ducati?
 
Great thread!

Surprises so far:
1. Marquez leading the championship on a bike that has no right to be there. What a phenom!
2. Lorenzo's 'changeable conditions' performance is disimproving
3. Rossi's qualifying pace has improved a lot.
4. The riders like Pedrosa & Smith who really aren't adjusting to the Michelin. There was always going to be some (Anyone remember Crafar after he was switched from Dunlop?)

Second half predictions:

Austria - Marquez
Czech Republic - Lorenzo
United Kingdom - Marquez
San Marino - Rossi
Aragon - Lorenzo
Japan - Lorenzo
Australia - Marquez
Malaysia - Marquez
Valencian - Lorenzo

These are based on the assumption of dry races, in rain or flag-to-flag all bets are off.
If this was any other season I would have Pedrosa down for Japan & Malaysia, but I actually don't see him getting a win this season.
 
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Great thread!

Surprises so far:
1. Marquez leading the championship on a bike that has no right to be there. What a phenom!
2. Lorenzo's 'changeable conditions' performance is disimproving
3. Rossi's qualifying pace has improved a lot.
4. The riders like Pedrosa & Smith who really aren't adjusting to the Michelin. There was always going to be some (Anyone remember Crafar after he was switched from Dunlop?)

Second half predictions:

Austria - Marquez
Czech Republic - Lorenzo
United Kingdom - Marquez
San Marino - Rossi
Aragon - Lorenzo
Japan - Lorenzo
Australia - Marquez
Malaysia - Marquez
Valencian - Lorenzo

These are based on the assumption of dry races, in rain or flag-to-flag all bets are off.
If this was any other season I would have Pedrosa down for Japan & Malaysia, but I actually don't see him getting a win this season.
Does that mean you think Lorenzo might still win it?
 
Why would he come back in 2019?



No one has a contract for 2019 with ducati or repsol. He has been with both and if he is gonna return, that's the only options. He is testing with ducati and the rest and was 4th fastest at a1 ring.
 
Does that mean you think Lorenzo might still win it?

If Marquez wins 4 of the last nine races, i will go out an a limb and say he wins the title by a runaway. If he is winning every other race, no way will he toss it down the road in the ones he is not. He can take podiums without much risk, but his biggest danger of slowing down is putting himself in range of an ICBM
Ianonne Catastrophic Bike Missle.
 
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Does that mean you think Lorenzo might still win it?

Nope, barring a Marquez injury (which touch wood will not happen). Marc can begin to manage it now and take even fewer risks. It is a possibility, but a remote one, plus given the 1st half of the season I doubt we've seen the last of the surprise winners yet :)
 
Nope, barring a Marquez injury (which touch wood will not happen). Marc can begin to manage it now and take even fewer risks. It is a possibility, but a remote one, plus given the 1st half of the season I doubt we've seen the last of the surprise winners yet :)
Agree I just thought when you had Lorenzo down for some race wins he mot claw it back.

Even if yam get there act together, pedrosa gets his arse in gear, and Lorenzo gets some decent rubber, its hard to see past Marquez.
 
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And that's if Lorenzo wins every remaining race.


Doesnt matter who wins every race. He can still finish 2nd in the remaining 9 and take the title. 25 for victory and 20 for 2nd. 48 points down to lorenzo and he will only lose 45 if he finishes 2nd and lorenzo wins all the races. Dont even matter if rossi wins the remaining 9 and he finishes 2nd.
 
For me, after the events at the end of last season i had Marquez down to win the title this year so i'm not surprised to see him ahead at the half way point,he has grown up a lot since his first season,Lorenzo surprises me though,he seems to get totally psyched out if the conditions aren't to his liking,when they are it's like nobody can touch him, but if it rains, forget it,I would love to see a Ducati get a victory,can't see Pedrosa getting one and hope Rossi never gets one again,as for Stoner, i can't see him ever coming back to race GP's,i wish he would because in my opinion he retired far too young but i respect his reasons for doing so,how great would it be to see him on the same bike as Marquez or the Ducati?

I have him picked to win every year as he is the most talented rider on the planet at the moment, but after winter testing and how far off the Honda was, i thought he would lose way to much ground while Honda figured out the bike. They still have not figured it out but circumstances have found them unexpectedly leading big. I hope they dont get Ducati syndrome and assume everything is ok, its not. The hotter climate races are coming and right now, that heavily favors the Yamaha's.