Round 13: 2016 San Marino Grand Prix - Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli

Whilst I don't think there was too much to make of the Misano pass, apart from it was a block pass, something Rossi has made a career out of. This type of pass in some eyes is not absolutely clean, which is in his poor grasp of the English language what Lorenzo was saying.
Of course Rossi saw the worst in this and the silly argument ensued. Interestingly Rossi almost instantly referred to Marquez and the Silverstone passes, hinting that he's still not altogether happy about him.
Maybe Marquez caught him cold with the handshake earlier in the season and given the circumstances Rossi was almost forced into reciprocating.
It makes me wonder would Rossi rather things had stayed as they were, with his fans booing and abusing him as well as Lorenzo.

yamfan said:

Whilst I don't think there was too much to make of the Misano pass, apart from it was a block pass, something Rossi has made a career out of. This type of pass in some eyes is not absolutely clean, which is in his poor grasp of the English language what Lorenzo was saying.
Of course Rossi saw the worst in this and the silly argument ensued. Interestingly Rossi almost instantly referred to Marquez and the Silverstone passes, hinting that he's still not altogether happy about him.
Maybe Marquez caught him cold with the handshake earlier in the season and given the circumstances Rossi was almost forced into reciprocating.
It makes me wonder would Rossi rather things had stayed as they were, with his fans booing and abusing him as well as Lorenzo.

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If thats what he wants, all he has to do is give the signal and the yellow ....... will obey.

GeniusAtTwerk said:

"Taking exception to virtually anything another rider says"

Peak of irony.

What problem? I take exception to things I disagree with and think are clearly wrong. You don't want me stating my opinion on Lorenzo calling Rossi "dirtier" than others on the grid? I believe what I believe about the end of 2015 based on the context, narrative, quotes from riders on both sides of the issue and the RD, as well as my personal eye test (something you can't relate to of course), just as I believe what I believe about other things using those and additional tools at my possession.

Do you use "epic petulant whingefest" to describe every event, or just Rossi at the end of 2015?

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I apply it only to the end of 2015 Rossi whinging, given that whinging exceeded by several orders of magnitude any whinging by any other rider before or since, particularly this solicited and fairly mild comment by Lorenzo which he made clear was his opinion only, and where he specifically didn't call Rossi "dirty". If the cap fits however, Rossi can wear it, if it is his and your wish.

michaelm said:

Again he won the ....... race, the totality of what is required of him as a GP bike rider as long as he rides legally. He is very definitely not required to adopt tactics which suit Valentino Rossi while doing so.

If he did ride with a view to thwarting Rossi, which I personally don't "believe" he did, as Birdman says so what?

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So you agree with me? Or you're talking beside the point again for some other reason? Did Rossi have the biggest problem with Marquez making dirty moves (passing or otherwise), or something else. Answer the question you questioned me about, don't start talking about something else.

Again, if you believe a rider deliberately sabotaging one contenders title challenge over another because of a personal grudge is okay, that's your opinion. I have a different opinion on that matter.

GeniusAtTwerk said:

Again, if you believe a rider deliberately sabotaging one contenders title challenge over another because of a personal grudge is okay, that's your opinion. I have a different opinion on that matter.

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No such thing happened, stop trying to grasp at straws.

GeniusAtTwerk said:

So you agree with me? Or you're talking beside the point again for some other reason? Did Rossi have the biggest problem with Marquez making dirty moves (passing or otherwise), or something else. Answer the question you questioned me about, don't start talking about something else.

Again, if you believe a rider deliberately sabotaging one contenders title challenge over another because of a personal grudge is okay, that's your opinion. I have a different opinion on that matter.

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What part of him winning the race, not at all a matter of opinion, do you not understand? He rode legally and won the race.

I have opinions about how he rode which don't fit your narrative, but are equally irrelevant. Any alternative tactics he may have adopted could not have had any better result, and could conceivably have had a worse result ie not winning the race.