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I agree. Although we may debate fault I am happy to see no action was taken.
MotoGP: 2024 Round 2 Grande Prémio Tissot de Portugal
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I dont think he could have. Its one thing to pick up while tipping in Marc was at full lean and Pecco came up fast. Last time Marc saw Pecco he was on his outside. He had no clue Pecco was there until it was too late.
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Sure, his bike didn’t seem to lack anything in comparison with the bikes the two factory riders were on, and KTM can continue to make this so. KTM have been vocal about Jack helping with development and set up of their bike, so probably no benefit and possible detriment if they swapped in season. Acosta probably needs a little time to be the one deciding the direction of the bike, but then again he might be young Rossi standard who knew better than Alex Criville in his first premier class season.
if you are a rider and see a gap, you will go ahead thats instinct. I dont blame neither Marc nor Pecco, its just a racing incident
Allowing for both yours and my prejudices you are correct imo. Watching live I thought Bagnaia had run into MM but was somewhat influenced on the replays by the commentators saying MM had run wide. As you say so did Bagnaia, there was plenty of real estate inside, he just wasn’t in a position to use it. MM’s pass was legitimate and completed successfully, if less elegantly than Acosta managed, but the onus is on Bagnaia if he wants to re-pass mid corner. As has been said it was futile anyway, he had 2 chances of keeping 5th till the end of the race, slim and none, so he wasn’t even risking 10 points to gain 2 . Effectively he has conceded 10 points to Martin, in all reality his serious rival, trying to prove something to MM.
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It's a long season and I think it is very unlikely that Martin finishes all 20 races. It's still anyone's game and I think Acosta now has to be included in the 'anyone' we are talking about.
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Bagnaia tried the same thing on the shark but Pedro had the inside of the next corner. Pecco had to pick up the bike to avoid hitting him.
You are of course correct, Martin will make mistakes as well, but perhaps Bagnaia should be displaying better judgement with the experience he now has.
I agree completely. As you or someone else said, his mistake here was almost reminiscent of Marquez v Rossi in Argentina 2015. Marquez never had the pace to go with Rossi and cost himself 20 points by engaging in what was a pointless fight. In this case though it cost both of them.
Sorry, Marc did went wide and tried to comeback rather too late. Having said that, it is a racing incident that could have been avoided by both.
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You don't need to be sorry just because you are wrong. Marc had every right to make the pass and square up the corner without being contacted by the rider he passed. No rider would purposely run wide to allow the rider they overtook to get back underneath. Where Pecco tried to go was not option. He made a bonehead move that he alone could have avoided. Watch again if you need to. Marc was still on the race line. They all come off the curb to apex late up and over the hill in that corner. Watch that corner in other laps and you will see they all take similar lines to Marcs. Binder was really wide at that point in the corner every lap. Wider than most. You can see in all angles that the race line is really wide there and Marc never left it.
Who has Marquez taken out while in the premier class?
I know there is Rossi at Argentina, Pedrosa at Aragon (though the contact didn't cause the crash), Oliveria last year. I am not sure who else. I am talking about guys who crashed because of contact not just contact being made.
I know he has been taken out by Aleix at Australia, Pecco this race, Rossi in Sepeng, Rossi in Argentina any others?
I know there is Rossi at Argentina, Pedrosa at Aragon (though the contact didn't cause the crash), Oliveria last year. I am not sure who else. I am talking about guys who crashed because of contact not just contact being made.
I know he has been taken out by Aleix at Australia, Pecco this race, Rossi in Sepeng, Rossi in Argentina any others?
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This is what I saw. For Pecco to become world champion for a 3rd time he needs to focus on maximising his points
Acosta thanks the manufacturer of Apilia's gearbox's for his 1st podium
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I had a quick google to see if Pedro was on a 24 machine. Thought I read something somewhere but cant find it to confirm. If he aint on a 24 now, ffs give he one. Keep him in GasGas but give him the best as it appears he is already the best on a Ktm.
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I believe he is, and receiving updates. Case in fact, he got the new extra winged seat unit this weekend before Miller.
Both GasGas bikes are 2024 spec as far as I know
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