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Gaz was telling me earlier in the topic how the rear tires are more of a concern, or rather the larger evil of the two when compared to the abominations they are calling the front tires. Too bad everyone seems oblivious to how dangerous these front tires are, and if a rider gets run over which nearly happened in the above picture then we'll get the usual hand-wringing ........ about it. Michelin has seriously ...... up their front tire design, and it's incredible that this isn't getting enough attention. Only one man truly benefits from low grip front tires... Just saying.
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^^ Leave it to this guy to take a pic of Crutchlow & A. Esparago crashing and turn it into a Rossi tire conspiracy. He just can't help himself.
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Iannone actually almost took out the entire podium. He nearly took out the eventual race winner, Marquez. The contact was enough to dislodge the rear facing camera on Marc's bike. He then almost took out Pedrosa (eventual podium) and took out Dovi and himself from the podium. That is quite amazing actually.
See the shadow, that is actually Iannone's bike making contact with Marquez's rear. Also, notice Iannone's body English trying to avoid Marc, and if you can see it, his rear tire is off the ground. (I don't know how to post pictures other than thumbnail from the computer. It is easier from the mobile site, if someone could explain why, i'd appreciate.)
See the shadow, that is actually Iannone's bike making contact with Marquez's rear. Also, notice Iannone's body English trying to avoid Marc, and if you can see it, his rear tire is off the ground. (I don't know how to post pictures other than thumbnail from the computer. It is easier from the mobile site, if someone could explain why, i'd appreciate.)
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I suppose it could be worse...
I could be unable to read the main point which was the Michelin front tire is dangerous.
But hey, better than being the sort that only shows up when his idol makes it to the podium.
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IMO, it's too early to say the tires are ..... Some riders & teams still need to make adjustments.
I don't have an idol, but if I did and it was Rossi... at least he's still racing and Stoner's still...
I'm usually here lurking and laughing at your comments. Usually more fun to lurk & laugh than to call out your BS.
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Nice sidestep, you worship Rossi like every other bopper. No need to be disingenuous about the whole thing to try and make yourself appear as some "above it all" observer. The Rossi avatar kind of kills it, as did your spirited defense of Rossi some months back.
So what if Stoner isn't racing? What he did on a MotoGP machine over 7 seasons was far greater than anything Rossi will have done over 18...especially when one considers all of the rules changes that were aimed at trying to stop him.
That's cool, I'm usually laughing at your posts when you do make them as they comprise two parts stupidity and one part delusion.
Keep swinging and missing bopper.
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JPS, you of all people cannot call anyone a Rossi bopper. NOBODY on this forum is as obsessed with Rossi than YOU.
I do like Rossi, but to be honest I don't dislike any of the riders. The Rossi hate in the forum is one of the main reasons I like having a Rossi avatar.
If Stoner is so great, why do you keep Rossi on your mind more than your idol? You wake up in a cloud of yellow smoke.
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Ok, you guys dont go flaming me for this, but for the sake of discussion; reviewing footage from Dovi and Iannone's crash, it almost looks like there was some space available going into that last turn. Overly ambitious, yes, but impossible? I don't know. If the front tire holds up it almost looks like Iannone might have pulled it off without contact. The contact was after the front washes out. Certainly the conditions played a role, but in dry conditions, I don't know. Again, for discussion. I already said Iannone should have settled for the podium. But looking at it again, it almost looks like there was space. Am I crazy? ( rhetorical)
If someone can find a gif of the aerial camera angle, would be appreciated.
If someone can find a gif of the aerial camera angle, would be appreciated.
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The talent was gone the day I stopped being a Monster girl
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Im sure Levis got one
Speaking of, Levi is correct. The dropoff from Villopoto to Dungey was pretty steep. The dropoff from Dungey to the rest of the scrubs is bigger then MotoChicks chasm.
Dungeys a worker and a solid talent but only ever could win agains't this mediocre field. I dont dislike him, but his sour puss face and lack of personality bores the .... out of me
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Ill have to watch it again but judging by that pic, Dovis about to hit the apex so his trajectory is bringing him in, Iannone's is taking him straight thru Dovi
Edited to add. Just saw Dubs vid. He Simoncellied it and tried to shoot a gap that wasnt there due to Dovi coming in. That would have worked at the entrance, not the apex
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Even if he doesn't low side, he was on course to run straight into Dovizioso. Watched the replay from the helicopter and he was way way too hot. Heavy contact was happening one way or another there.
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The picture is missing one thing; speed.
It was an impossible move that had no chance of working.
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What are you talking about? There is some great younger talent like that young kid who never races. Adam Cianciarulo.
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Yeah, I may be over analyzing it, but part of me thinks it often depends on the riders in question and not so much the incident itself. I wish I could view alternate universes. $5 buck says if it's other riders the discussion takes an alternate view.
I think I need to see the normal line here. Do riders touch the curbing as the apex or do they run wide of it? It seems both riders are quite away from the curbing.
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So definitely they make contact even if the tire holds? Question: if you stand up the other rider, does that automatically make it wrong? Reason I ask is because there were a couple of moves before this where both Rossi and Iannone slightly stood eachother up into turns but avoided contact. See Rossi’s last lap overtaking of Iannone.
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