MotoGP: 2016 Round 02 - Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina (SPOILERS)

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moto vudu said:
Right, he wasn't comfortable because something was off compared to the first bike. But, I don't think Rossi or his team was aware something was off on the 2nd bike and Rossi chose the better bike for the first half of the race as povol suggests. No way would they have a 2nd bike that's a second slower than the first just waiting to be used for the 2nd half of the race.
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Rossi himself on the live bt sports aftershow said the bike was fine but he didn't have the same feeling with the tyres on the second bike. Whether they got the suspension wrong is doubtful, so maybe he used an older tyre that was slightly past its life. Either that or Michelin still has work to do on quality control.
Oops, have I left the door open for the boppers to blame Michelin for Valentino's failure to be able to catch Marquez?
To be fair, had Marquez not gone on the wrong tyres last year, Valentino would not have got near him, so perhaps it's a case of role reversal this time?
 
Espargaro:

“We’re saying that Michelin have lots of problems, but ones who have it are Ducati,”
“They have 17 km/h more than us on the straight, more power than us and burn tyres. If Ducati aren’t able to you use these tyres, then they’ll have to reduce their power, or have special tyres made for them.”

Pol: The Ducati's power is causing tyre issues - GPxtra
 
yamfan said:
To be fair, had Marquez not gone on the wrong tyres last year, Valentino would not have got near him, so perhaps it's a case of role reversal this time?
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he wouldnt have break away like that either dude,his tactic of using a softer tire(he had no pace on harder ones) was actually to break away real quick and control the race which he wasnt able to do.


.. its just weird to see how rossi cant make a single pass this year. its is beautiful when he rides defensively, but i still havent seen him make a single clear clean pass this year!
 
I've not even gone through this whole thread yet. And im drunk. This whole tyre thing. Advantage rossi bad for lorenzo Marquezcan'tworkit Yada Yada Yada. The ....... rear tyres have exploded. Twice. It's s ....... Michelin issue. They have no option than to remove the tyre from the race. Jps was also arguing about the front wash outs. As addressed earlier the risers ates skating to a new front characteristic. Loses are riders pushing the boundaries. Exploding tyres are going to kill someone
 
It was a pretty interesting weekend, the first half of the race was awesome Marquez and Rossi had some pretty interesting passes, the end of the second segment was also fun to watch and I was really hoping to see Vinales in the mix.

I'm happy that those rumors that Michelin were playing for Rossi were put to bed by the mandatory pit stop. Up front I knew this was bad news for Valentino, he usually get's better as the track/tires age and switching bike gave me a feeling the race would be different and the difference was massive, it went from a beautiful battle between Marquez and Rossi to a pretty boring end of he second segment.. Thank god the Ducs and Vinales were catching Rossi for some action!

Big props to Marquez to be an absolute animal with any bike though! Not that I did not expect it but he proved once again he has pace from the get go on any bike, something that is not given to everyone it seems...
 
MM fully deserved his podium finish. He made cautious, yet smart decisions which left him with the capability to keep first place.

As for Rossi & Pedrosa, they got gifted the podium - which is a complete shame because Dovi deserved it. Iannone - you're a ....... ..... sometimes.

Lorenzo, sorry bruh. You'll come back though because you're too perfect not to.

Looking forward to Austin.
 
littlesparrows said:
MM fully deserved his podium finish. He made cautious, yet smart decisions which left him with the capability to keep first place.

As for Rossi & Pedrosa, they got gifted the podium - which is a complete shame because Dovi deserved it. Iannone - you're a ....... ..... sometimes.

Lorenzo, sorry bruh. You'll come back though because you're too perfect not to.

Looking forward to Austin.
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Yo! Glad to see yer name on the board again. Thought we'd lost you.
 
Uccio was so ecstatic that Iannoni honoured his contract that he ...... on the podium and MM slipped in it.
 
Jumkie said:
Not even a Tesla? I got my tickets through Faraday Future, a company that is looking at producing an electric car. They had their concept car there, it was rather amazing.

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They had this fan participation gimmick where fans could vote through various social media for their three favorite drivers. The drivers with the most votes would then get an "extra e-power boost" during the race. They kept announcing it on the loud speakers, "ok fans, your support will have a direct effect on the race. Get your phones out and vote!"

Imagine if they did this in GP? During the race the most popular rider will get to unleash extra horse power for a few laps. #Boppers
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As it happens, my sister took delivery of a Tesla S today which I will be interested to try. It has some ridiculous 0 to 100kph time because of the flat torque curve.
 
i forgot to add...

this mother ...... doesn't get enough credit....EVER.

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srsly, the definition of sportsmanship. to get taken out by your teammate & then proceeding to push your bike across the finish line.......... admirable.

this came off his facebook & is translated, so it's probably off some. but i thought it was a nice piece.
This photo is one of those images that remain in the history of the motorcycling, is one of those pictures that you expect as the cover of TIME and that maybe we'll find some celebratory documentary heroes for motorbiking.

The we could find followed by a sterile caption that explains why Andrea Dovizioso concluded the race Argentina pushing his desmosedici the wall right after the finish line but in this picture you can see a lot more. You can see a man who has devoted commitment and passion in a project in which few have seen the good, you can see that very rare characteristic that is called confidence that we often search and rarely found.

Is an icon of the sportsmanship, why desmodovi, instead of letting go in epic drama about anger, lashing out all the anger in that moment would rush in the veins of anyone, he has to take precedence over the white horse that door on the helmet, which symbolizes his part From good boy (as he says himself) running instinctively towards the bikes for pushing her towards the finish line, so as to obtain even that single point that by sense to work up to that moment from him and his team.

Finally reveals between the colors of this wonderful picture, the dream and the goal of a pilot that points to the world and not to feed the hungry of hatred of some spectator. I can't help but compare the reaction of Andrea on this occasion with that received by Rossi in Qatar during a round of free practice against a LORENZO REO (but without malice) have "ruined" of a few cm the trajectory of Valentino .

A Champion is not only the one who has conquered more cups or more medals, but a sample is also shows in his behavior, in what teaches to whoever looks at it and in the model which decides to be, and Andrea takes the form of men like niki Lauda or Kevin Schwantz.

Andrea Dovizioso is not a good tester or a pilot mediocre as I have often heard, Andrea Dovizioso is a true champion, humble, determined and loyal, and I hope with all my heart that wins this world, not just because you deserve it but also because It would be the epilogue for a motogp bike that's following a trajectory always more media and commercial and increasingly less trannies.
Long live sport, long live the motorcycling and ‪#‎forzadovi‬
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littlesparrows said:
i forgot to add...

this mother ...... doesn't get enough credit....EVER.

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srsly, the definition of sportsmanship. to get taken out by your teammate & then proceeding to push your bike across the finish line.......... admirable.

this came off his facebook & is translated, so it's probably off some. but i thought it was a nice piece.
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Who cares for sportsmanship?

better Dovizioso come out winning some races coz you don't save a seat being a fair player.

Tired of this mediocre riders, both Andreas are that, only mediocre riders riding a championship bike.

Ducati desperately needs an alien.
 
gui22a said:
Who cares for sportsmanship?

better Dovizioso come out winning some races coz you don't save a seat being a fair player.

Tired of this mediocre riders, both Andreas are that, only mediocre riders riding a championship bike.

Ducati desperately needs an alien.
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lol.
 
littlesparrows said:
i forgot to add...

this mother ...... doesn't get enough credit....EVER.

srsly, the definition of sportsmanship. to get taken out by your teammate & then proceeding to push your bike across the finish line.......... admirable.

this came off his facebook & is translated, so it's probably off some. but i thought it was a nice piece.
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At least he didn't get the bikes mixed up and accidentally push Ianone's bike over the line instead. That would have been soul crushing to watch.
 
That was a nice piece. Its true, Dovi does not get the credit and admiration he deserves. Dovi is the Italian version of Hayden in my opinion. His quiet professionalism and modesty is a contrast to the divas. Dovi was once asked why people don't pay attention to him, his response was because he isn't an ......... I love that response. His tenacity is also underrated. He fights back for position with the best of them.

I feel a bit bad for Iannone because I don't think his move came from a place of arrogance, cynicism, or rage, but rather a genuine red mist for position. Of course it was boneheaded and stupid. But unlike other torpedoes which I believe had an element of maliciousness, I think like Simoncelli, they were misplaced zeal and in this case a complete loss of the plot; if beating your teammate is the primary mission, taking him out is the ultimate transgression. Frankly it's practically unforgivable. I'm sure it's bias since I like the guy, but after initially wanting to crucify the guy yesterday, today I just wish it's a point of revelation like the one that Marquez seems to have made and one I believe Simoncelli had made as well but we never got to see.

Talk about hero to zero. Iannone's determination was fantastic at last year's Phillip Island race, and it was looking similar again at Argentina. Had he settled for the podium I can imagine all the posts written in homage to him, Dovi, Ducati, etc. It's definitely a career low point. But if I'm honest, his racing has provided some fantastic thrills. I hope he figures out discretion is the better part of valor.
 
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Dovizioso wasn't even the first guy to push his bike across the line yesterday.

Norrodin did it in the Moto3 race after he high-sided before the final corner. We should talk about that one first before Dovizioso.

Jums, Italian version of Hayden isn't exactly what I'd call a glowing recommendation to some degree. Given Nicky's penchant for being unable to take the fight to other riders when absolutely necessary, Dovizioso has a lot of the same tendency. Well, he's a bit stronger, but he seems to be a guy who while capable of being a pest during a race with regards to sticking to the rear of someone...but I also view it somewhat as a guy who needs someone to follow to bring out a greater race pace. 2011 told me everything I needed to know about Dovizioso: good rider that can possibly win if everything goes right, but doesn't have that ability to create his own fate.

Let's not lose sight that Stoner said the GP15 was a race winning bike and Dovizioso delivered nothing of the sort. The GP16 is another race winner, but whether it does win race(s) is another story. Ducati imo has a window in which to win grands prix, and much like last year, it's contingent on the first maybe quarter of the season. If the job doesn't get done, it's going to be another wasted season.
 

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