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nah it's time to save the fine west-germanic language that is english. jum surely ..... it up on purpose.
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Naw!  Jumkie's writing is usually pretty sound. (.... knows he gets enough practice!)


While he's misspelled 'pawn' on several occasions in the past, jumping up and down over the occasional botched homophone is just not worth the effort.  (Although there's probably a gay joke in there somewhere!)
 
Austin said:
bsb is a whole different topic, i don't want to take this off topic too much but i think a solid case can be made that only those who join the gp feeder series have good chances. when it comes to best national SUPERBIKE championship,and hence best breeding ground for wsbk, bsb takes the cake hands down.

I see what you're saying about feeder series, and I agree with you to an extent. After all, Crutchlow and Spies are both WSBK grads and have, at one point or another, looked to be very promising and successful riders in MotoGP. I'm just not certain I see that sort of potential in anyone in the series right now. And while I admittedly know very little about Aus Superbikes, I won't offer any arguments that the AMA is a stronger series than BSB. If you want to race Superbikes, or go that route, BSB is your best option, in my opinion—and that opinion is shared by a number of riders I've spoken to.

You know better than to have a dig at our national series Sir.... I do agree that WSBK may have lost a bit of something but that said, I would still rather be Sykes than Starring

And you know better than to think I'd have a dig at BSB—it's where I got my start, as you're well aware. You know, before I hit the big time of BMW hospitality and camping out of your Volvo.
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Hahaha that was a good weekend ! You got BMW hospitality and I got to use your pit lane access....from which I nearly got ejected after filming Max on my phone in the Aprilia garage !!!
Lets do that again sometime !!!
 
Confused about the Ben spies tweet. I saw Gavin emmet retweet it and the bit about carlo was not in it, but spies tweet was deleted very shortly after he tweeted the tweet. Anyone here actually actually see that tweet??
 
Confused about the Ben spies tweet. I saw Gavin emmet retweet it and the bit about carlo was not in it, but spies tweet was deleted very shortly after he tweeted the tweet. Anyone here actually actually see that tweet??
 
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I managed to get a screenshot.
 
I did see the Spies tweet, it was there for a while. Couldn't work out what he meant - I thought it was about Carmelo!
 
Market: if Espargaro goes to Forward, Aprilia will be after Nicky Hayden.
 
So will Aprillia be a full factory bike next year?  Have they figured out how to do it on 20 liters of fuel?
 
a guy who should know said that aprilia will only consider this if they get the suzuki treatment and are excluded from the msma rules, giving them  22 (or was it 21?) liters of fuel.


 


if there is no announcement that new manufacturers can have some extra fuel for the first year it should be save to say aprilia won't join, pneumatic valves or not
 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Just we can start keeping track.....
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Yamaha Factory Racing
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Jorge Lorenzo 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Valentino Rossi
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Repsol HRC 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Dani Pedrosa
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Marc Marquez
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Tech 3 Yamaha
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Bradley Smith
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Pol Espagaro
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Ducati Factory Team
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Andrea Dovizioso
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Cal Crutchlow
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:#008000;Gresini Honda
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Alvaro Bautista
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:#008000;- Scott Redding
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);LCR Honda
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);-  Stefan Bradl
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);Pramac Ducati
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Andrea Iannone
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Ben Spies
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);Aspar Team
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Aleix Espagaro
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Randy DePuniet
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Paul Bird Motorsport
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);NGM Mobile Forward Racing
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Colin Edwards

- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);Cardion AB Motoracing
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Karel Abraham
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Came Ioda Racing Project
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Avintia Blusens
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;New Teams?
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
 
Aprilia's goal is to beat the Honda and Yamaha 'production racers' with their own factory-developed bikes loaned to private teams; their challenge is at that level.


An official factory effort is not likely to happen before 2016.
 
MigsAngel
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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Just we can start keeping track.....
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Yamaha Factory Racing
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Jorge Lorenzo 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Valentino Rossi
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Repsol HRC 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Dani Pedrosa
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Marc Marquez
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Tech 3 Yamaha
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Bradley Smith
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Pol Espagaro
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);Ducati Factory Team
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Andrea Dovizioso
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);- Cal Crutchlow
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:#008000;Gresini Honda
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Alvaro Bautista
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:#008000;- Scott Redding
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);LCR Honda
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);-  Stefan Bradl
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);Pramac Ducati
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Andrea Iannone
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Ben Spies
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);Aspar Team
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Aleix Espagaro
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Randy DePuniet
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Paul Bird Motorsport
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);NGM Mobile Forward Racing
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Colin Edwards

- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);Cardion AB Motoracing
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;<span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);- Karel Abraham
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Came Ioda Racing Project
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;Avintia Blusens
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px; 
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;New Teams?
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;- TBD
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Migs, its not every day you will get a compliment from me, but kudos for keeping up this thread.  


 


Now go .... yourself. :)  (If you don't know the reference, have Stiefel explain).
 
Bautista is confirmed, he is already on contract.


 


I think Redding has come out of it with a decent deal. If he puts in a good year on the production racer he'll learn something about developing a bike and grab a spot on the Satellite bike. At the end of that stint a place could be opening up at HRC Repsol.
 
Sloth_27
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I think Redding has come out of it with a decent deal.
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Rossi 250 champ: factory NSR500


Pedrosa 250 camp: factory RC211V


Lorenzo 250 champ: factory M1


Aoyama 250 champ: factory supported RC212V


Simonchelli 250 champ: "factory" RC212V


Bradl Moto2 champ: "factory" RC212V


Marquez Moto2 champ: factory RC212V


Redding Moto2 champ elect: CBR.1 glorified CRT


 


 


...oh and if you are good enough in a year we may revisit your situation, possibly give you a prototype bike, but I guess you need to "prove" yourself first.  Sorry Sloth, god I know i'm pulverizing this dead horse, even I'm getting bored with myself, haha.  


 


Why the stark deviation of awarding the middle category champ a  factory or factory supported machine so pronounced in this case?  Well, none of the other riders in that list had a high profile Spanish runner up that needed a competitive seat, given those seats were tightly limited.  I think this really represents and is indicative of the attitude regarding meritocracy in GP.  I know everybody is talking nice and all, but I consider this a disrespect to Redding.  And lets not rush to claim Bautista was under contract as we should recall it was revealed (an lambasted by Cal) negotiations for Pol Espargaro started very early in the season, where for Redding it was left to the last possible minute once all the seats were taken (forcing it to appear there was simply nowhere else for him to go).  Nobody believed in him or cared to consider him over a Spanish rider, and he is proving them wrong.  God only knows where he might have ended up had he been a Spaniard leading the championship, maybe on a factory supported M1 perhaps, haha.  Its this attitude that I think is prevalent and dictates much of the considerations for competitive seats in the series.  No, they didn't need to wait and see how the season was going to shake out, they already knew they wanted the Spaniard Espargaro, regardless.  Now you just watch, next year Pol should have no problem besting Redding's 'results' every race, then memories will fade and people will conclude the Spaniard is simply better than the Brit(s), and "deserving" of Rossi's factory bike perhaps.  The deviation of awarding the middle weight GP category with a solid prototype (factory or supported) machine is such a stark contrast from the normal pattern, that people should raise an eye and  take notice.  But I fear that everybody is so numb to this reality (.... look at the people who think I'm just a conspiracy theorist regarding the Spanish facilitation, arguing with me over flagrant dismal of rules for specific influential Spanish interests as if its ok) that they will quietly accept this, hell even Redding appears resigned to what has been relegated.  But there is hope for the Brit, as Carmelo loves to stick his filthy alien reptilian webbed hands on .... and force Redding onto a competitive machine, as I think its an embarrassment to the tightly controlled narrative of the series to allowed a Moto2 champ to be treated so differently.  It just looks bad for the League.  But then again, he might just say, ....'em, nobody is noticing and the sheepish spectators and "experts" keep towing the League's messaging.
 
Redding's not getting a decent bike because there's already one two many Brits, ya ......s.  Cheerio's!
 
SuperShinya56
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Redding's not getting a decent bike because there's already one two many Brits, ya ......s.  Cheerio's!
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You know Supershit,  I gotta say, I agree.  Normally I would have told you to go .... yourself; but you happen to pull this .... while I'm in a transitional period so I gonna tell you, you have been very funny this year.  I don't know if your nuts dropped or whatever, but your posts have been fairly hilarious.  Kudos.  ...now go .... yourself.
 

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