MotoGP: 2013 Round 05 - Gran Premio d'Italia (SPOILERS)

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ALR
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It's like stirring custard on here - it just gets thicker and thicker.


 


It doesn't matter what you think, or I think - it is how it looks. Honda race to promote their bikes. So how did it 'look'? Yamaha beat both the factory Hondas - easily ( = Yamaha are better / faster). Marquez crashed the factory Honda 4 times over the weekend (= Hondas crash a lot). A satellite Yamaha nearly caught the factory Honda ( = Hondas must be really slow). To the millions watching, Hondas potential market - that is what you could take away and, more importantly, think about before buying your next bike. Not a good day at the office for Honda. 


 


And at the last race Lorenzo, Rossi and the M1s proved that Yamaha's are totally .... in the rain so everyone in the UK went and traded in their R1s.
 
Mick D
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We've been through this .... before... The pure sports bike market is a tiny fraction of sales for the Japs (Ducati different and the fact that their bike is an uncompetitive piece of .... has only seen their sales RISE!!)). If one in a million Honda bike buyers world-wide (ya know they sell billions of scooters and 1000 times the cruisers/standards/dirt bikes, right) bases their buying decisions on the criteria you laid out I'd be surprised.


Honda race to promote Honda. 
 
Sloth_27
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And at the last race Lorenzo, Rossi and the M1s proved that Yamaha's are totally .... in the rain so everyone in the UK went and traded in their R1s.


Oh I doubt that.
 
ALR
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Honda race to promote Honda. 


Honda race because Soichiro Honda instilled a culture of competition into the company. 90% of Honda buyers and riders have no idea what MGP is. Your own love of racing has blinded you to the fact that most bikers couldn't give a .... about racing and MGP.
 
Does Dani wear this big-ass watch while he's racing? Or did he jam it on his wrist just before he was interviewed?


 


 
 

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Anyway, I best submit my race takes...if that is ok with you ALaiR.


 


 


 


Congrats to Lorenzo on the win.


Congrats to Pedrosa on second place.


Congrats to Crutchlow on third place.


Congrats to Bradl winning your celebration.


Congrats to Dovi for coming in fourth place.


Congrats to Nicky for coming in fifth place.


 


The rest of you, I know you <strike>suck</strike>  really tried hard <strike>because you just don't want it bad enough</strike>.


Oh, and congrats to Valentino Rossi for not dying. 


 


end of.
 
Jumkie
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Congrats to Lorenzo on the win.


Congrats to Pedrosa on second place.


Congrats to Crutchlow on third place.


Congrats to Bradl winning your celebration.


Congrats to Dovi for coming in fourth place.


Congrats to Nicky for coming in fifth place.


Christ, do you have to always be so insufferably opinionated!
 
Mick D
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Does Dani wear this big-ass watch while he's racing? Or did he jam it on his wrist just before he was interviewed?


I've been thinking about commenting on that for ages. I'm sure they all just have a flunky whose sole job at the end of the race is to:


A. Put a Bridgestone cap on the rider's head


B. Put gay sunglasses on their cap


C. Put a Monster Energy can (filled with Gatorade) in his hand


D. Hand them a fresh, unused, bug-free helmet before the post race interview


E. Sponge off stanky champagne from their $35,000.00 racing leathers


F. Jam a giant $15,000.00 sponsor watch on their wrist


G. Remind them of the name of the Pit Tootsie waiting in their motorhome.
 
It's part of his prize for winning. It sits on the table with the water and stuff as they head off to the podium.


 


Tissot have been giving the winner a watch for years... and the pole sitter. They do a bunch of promotion on their website, too. http://www.tissot.ch/?sports/action/detail/id/2/


 


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Looks like Espargaro got one too...
 
Arrabbiata1
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Christ, do you have to always be so insufferably opinionated!


 


As you may be able to tell from the time stamp of my post, its 5:00am here.  I stayed up all night catching up on racing.  Watched my boy win the Moto2, watched AMA Benny in Daytona Sporbike (I still cringe writing the category's name), Josh Hayes in Sbk, and a bit of MX to boot.  Now in an hour I gotta get ready for work without one second of shut eye.  Such is my commitment to this game.  Oh, and a little rebuttal I put together.  But its of no importance.  Move along...nothing to see here.  
 
BJ.C
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It's part of his prize for winning. It sits on the table with the water and stuff as they head off to the podium.


 


Tissot have been giving the winner a watch for years... and the pole sitter. They do a bunch of promotion on their website, too. http://www.tissot.ch/?sports/action/detail/id/2/


 


Really, most people on the forum didn't know part of the prize of setting pole was getting a watch?  They only mention it all the time, not to mention, they make rider replicas for the purpose of marketing, which is basically all the .... they wear, from hats to glasses, to watches, to sport bottle drinks with respective logos, etc.


 
BJ.C
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Looks like Espargaro got one too...


 


No, no no.  That is actually Espargaro's helmet. His head has shrank quite a bit since a certain Brit has been putting him in his place. Despite seemingly having his head cut off by Cal, its actually Redding doing the head shrinking.   :)


 


I digress.  


 


 


Anyway, I'd like to challenge a claim I read on Kropos race round up (either his or from some official claim), who said Marc's crash was the fastest ever in MotoGP.  It seems even while crashing, when Marc does it, its faster and better than everybody else.  I read various tweets and they had Marc's crash somewhere at 225-250kph (Krops has it well over 300-340kph) so this begs the question, at what point did the 'crash' occur, that is, at what speed did he hit the deck? I mean just one crash that immediately comes to mind, and I may be wrong, but wasn't John Hopkin's mechanical crash at Assen in 2008 faster?  Surely there have been others at near or over 300kph that I can't think of at the moment.   Certainly the tire wall and adorning signage (of Tissot watches and other sponsors no doubt) Hopkins hit was 10X more dangerous than the wall Marc didn't hit.  Marc's crash was nasty and spectacular enough, I hope its not necessary to inflate it and certainly not pronounce walls more dangerous depending on the rider that comes within its contact?


 


Also, one more ....... comment/question from your resident ....... (sorry JK, get to the back of the bus where you belong); so Kropos,  I'm really impressed how you worked out Cal's early race pace problems.  You've narrowed it down to the fuel cell.  Apparently...the fuel tank is full at the beginning of a race!  Breathtaking.  Cal's problem at the beginning of a race is his fuel cell, because apparently at the beginning of the race the fuel tank is full...  got it.   :)  Nah, really, so there is a difference in fuel cell design, and this according to your report accounts for a slower start than the factories? I'd honestly like to know what this conclusion is based on?  (I keep telling myself I should ditch my motogp feed and watch the Eurosport for some greater insight, but its a few more steps and I haven't got around to it, not to mention I would need to wait for the feed while I have the live coverage not only at my finger tips but fully paid).  But surely its been said and written that this design difference is hindering the satellite Yamaha.  Other than you giving us your word by simply saying the "M1 is transformed" in the latter stages when "fuel drops" (as if we have never heard countless reports by riders declaring their bike handles better with a lighter fuel load) what then exactly proves this to be a measurable handicap for the satellite squad?
 
Jumkie
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Really, most people on the forum didn't know part of the prize of setting pole was getting a watch?  They only mention it all the time, not to mention, they make rider replicas for the purpose of marketing, which is basically all the .... they wear, from hats to glasses, to watches, to sport bottle drinks with respective logos, etc.


 


 


No, no no.  That is actually Espargaro's helmet. His head has shrank quite a bit since a certain Brit has been putting him in his place. Despite seemingly having his head cut off by Cal, its actually Redding doing the head shrinking.   :)


 


I digress.  


 


 


Anyway, I'd like to challenge a claim I read on Kropos race round up (either his or from some official claim), who said Marc's crash was the fastest ever in MotoGP.  It seems even while crashing, when Marc does it, its faster and better than everybody else.  I read various tweets and they had Marc's crash somewhere at 225-250kph (Krops has it well over 300-340kph) so this begs the question, at what point did the 'crash' occur, that is, at what speed did he hit the deck? I mean just one crash that immediately comes to mind, and I may be wrong, but wasn't John Hopkin's mechanical crash at Assen in 2008 faster?  Surely there have been others at near or over 300kph that I can't think of at the moment.   Certainly the tire wall Hopkins hit was 10X more dangerous than the wall Marc didn't hit.  Marc's crash was nasty and spectacular enough, I hope its not necessary to inflate it and certainly not pronounce walls more dangerous depending on the rider that comes within its contact?


 


Also, one more ....... comment/question from your resident ....... (sorry JK, get to the back of the bus where you belong); so Kropos,  I'm really impressed how you worked out Cal's early race pace problems.  You've narrowed it down to the fuel cell.  Apparently...the fuel tank is full at the beginning of a race!  Breathtaking.  Cal's problem at the beginning of a race is his fuel cell, because apparently at the beginning of the race the fuel tank is full...  got it.   :)  Nah, really, so there is a difference in fuel cell design, and this according to your report accounts for a slower start than the factories? I'd honestly like to know what this conclusion is based on?  (I keep telling myself I should ditch my motogp feed and watch the Eurosport for some greater insight, but its a few more steps and I haven't got around to it, not to mention I would need to wait for the feed while I have the <u>live coverage not only at my finger tips </u>but fully paid).  But surely its been said and written that this design difference is hindering the satellite Yamaha.  Other than you giving us your word by simply saying the "M1 is transformed" in the latter stages when "fuel drops" (as if we have never heard countless reports by riders declaring their bike handles better with a lighter fuel load) what then exactly proves this to be a measurable handicap for the satellite squad?


 Just an aside - but I have noticed while having my laptop to the side to share comments during the race - I noticed during the Mugello race that folks in Europe were commenting on crashes etc. that didn't show up here on my "live feed" for maybe 6 to 8 seconds later. I'm so naive that I really thought I was watching everything, as it happened, but apparently there is more delay than I thought. Wondering if Willski has a hand in this.
 
Keshav
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 Just an aside - but I have noticed while having my laptop to the side to share comments during the race - I noticed during the Mugello race that folks in Europe were commenting on crashes etc. that didn't show up here on my "live feed" for maybe 6 to 8 seconds later. I'm so naive that I really thought I was watching everything, as it happened, but apparently there is more delay than I thought.


 


If it were just the crashes I was missing, I wouldn't feel so ignorant...well, as ignorant.  But apparently we are missing much more than a few blokes crashing, but rather the insight a commentating team can impart (see Arrabi's post in the Rumor BBC set to lose.. thread).


 


Speaking of not seeing ...., I'm still trying to get a grip on what happened to NH on the last couple of laps.  He had passed Dovi then dropped like a rock.  In his post race interview, on motogp.clowns the headline to his vid was "Hayden experiences problem", in his post race press release that surely some monkey writes, he simply said, he experience a lot of chatter.  It must have been the type to rattle his pretty teeth out of place because he dropped back several seconds a lap.  Dovi mentioned some electrical glitch at the start, but thats it.  Wondering if it was just chatter of Biblical proportions or a combination of other .....  If anybody would be so kind as to give me some insight on this.  BJC?  Anybody?
 
Keshav
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 Just an aside - but I have noticed while having my laptop to the side to share comments during the race - I noticed during the Mugello race that folks in Europe were commenting on crashes etc. that didn't show up here on my "live feed" for maybe 6 to 8 seconds later. I'm so naive that I really thought I was watching everything, as it happened, but apparently there is more delay than I thought. Wondering if Willski has a hand in this.


 


I've noticed the same.


When on motogp.com and watching eurosport, FP2 when it is live, quallie and the race.


Eurosport is 5-10 secs ahead.


However if you put the timing screens up on mgp.com they are 5-10 secs in front of eurosport tv.


That is why I watch it live combined with timing screen first time round and enjoy it later with Toby n Jules ;)


Shame you ain't got the same oppertunity 
 
Watched the race with 24 hour delay as usual:

1) jorge: awesome smooth ride, mugello is your kingdom, congratz

2) pedrosa: good mature race, it was just not your day

3) crutchlow: great race, congratz on the podium, but didn't like his attitude and the way he talked in the interviews. he was in the podium because of Marquez's crash, but he was talking about getting the second place from Dani, last year at Jerez he was on dani's ass the whole race while pedrosa was on cruise control mode and he just could't get the guy! After his interview i was like: bitch please! You are getting a little bit cocky young man! !

4)Marquez: great race, awesome stuff passing pedrosa, but you just pushed it to hard, silly mistake

5) Dovizioso and hayden: awesome job with the red team, continue the great work, well done,

6) rossi and bautista: dumb move from bautista, bad day for rossi, but i still think cal deserves to have your bike,
 
Jumkie
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Anyway, I'd like to challenge a claim I read on Kropos race round up (either his or from some official claim), who said Marc's crash was the fastest ever in MotoGP.  It seems even while crashing, when Marc does it, its faster and better than everybody else.  I read various tweets and they had Marc's crash somewhere at 225-250kph (Krops has it well over 300-340kph) so this begs the question, at what point did the 'crash' occur, that is, at what speed did he hit the deck? I mean just one crash that immediately comes to mind, and I may be wrong, but wasn't John Hopkin's mechanical crash at Assen in 2008 faster?  Surely there have been others at near or over 300kph that I can't think of at the moment.   Certainly the tire wall and adorning signage (of Tissot watches and other sponsors no doubt) Hopkins hit was 10X more dangerous than the wall Marc didn't hit.  Marc's crash was nasty and spectacular enough, I hope its not necessary to inflate it and certainly not pronounce walls more dangerous depending on the rider that comes within its contact?


 


I thought Nakano's crash on the Kawasaki at Mugello when his rear Bridgestone decided it had enough was the fastest MotoGP crash. Something like 320kph? Look up the video, it is fricken brutal.
 
Jumkie
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 (I keep telling myself I should ditch my motogp feed and watch the Eurosport for some greater insight, but its a few more steps and I haven't got around to it, not to mention I would need to wait for the feed while I have the live coverage not only at my finger tips but fully paid).

Jums if you interested in watching eurosports feed for motogp races then let me know via PM.
 

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