Joined Jul 2006
11K Posts | 291+
Texas
Wow Marquez threw it away just when he had got what he wanted after waiting so long to pass Pedrosa, his hesitation was evident in that. Throwing his hands up in the air like he did was pointless, it was all his own mistake, I guess he was ad at himself but that's racing isn't it?
Another good ride by Cal, no mistakes from him. He got by Dovi and then pulled a fair gap which shows he was quicker, yes he was catching Dani hand over fist but to be fair he'd been struggling for a while, hence Lorenzo got away and Marques passed him. It was still good he got a podium, his riding like that says far more about him, or at least it should. Two podiums in two races, okay you could say Marquez gifted him that one, but he got the points and that's what counts.
That Ducati looks racier each race doesn't it? They said they did well in Le Mans because it was wet, well they did well today in the dry too.
The early incident with Bautista and Rossi was a case of six of one, half a dozen of the other, though so early in the race I'd have thought Bautista should have expected to have contact with someone there perhaps.
Another good ride by Cal, no mistakes from him. He got by Dovi and then pulled a fair gap which shows he was quicker, yes he was catching Dani hand over fist but to be fair he'd been struggling for a while, hence Lorenzo got away and Marques passed him. It was still good he got a podium, his riding like that says far more about him, or at least it should. Two podiums in two races, okay you could say Marquez gifted him that one, but he got the points and that's what counts.
That Ducati looks racier each race doesn't it? They said they did well in Le Mans because it was wet, well they did well today in the dry too.
The early incident with Bautista and Rossi was a case of six of one, half a dozen of the other, though so early in the race I'd have thought Bautista should have expected to have contact with someone there perhaps.
Joined Oct 2011
351 Posts | 25+
Europe
Rossi got beaten by his issues in qualifying - if you start only mid-pack, you're in the danger of suffering some mid-pack hickup. MM got beaten by his inexperience. I think Pedrosa 'slowed down' before and after Mark's crash because he knows too well how the Honda deteriorates after mid-race if it isn't set up properly. This is also what Stoner complained about constantly, losing grip, getting nervous and unstable. MM learned this similar to Stoner last year on Sachsenring.
The Ducatis seem to have sorted out their current bike finally - the gap to the front is smaller over race distance, and things seem to keep falling in place much more consistently and predictably, plus Pirro on the 'lab bike' gathering data (and some good championship points, btw), this seem to be good indicators for the second half of the season.
Finally a good result for Bradl and LCR, desperately needed. I hope he can get some of his confidence back and start to close the performance gap to Crutchlow - who quite obviously got at least 'something' from the factory, given he can challenge the fac bikes so regularly.
The Ducatis seem to have sorted out their current bike finally - the gap to the front is smaller over race distance, and things seem to keep falling in place much more consistently and predictably, plus Pirro on the 'lab bike' gathering data (and some good championship points, btw), this seem to be good indicators for the second half of the season.
Finally a good result for Bradl and LCR, desperately needed. I hope he can get some of his confidence back and start to close the performance gap to Crutchlow - who quite obviously got at least 'something' from the factory, given he can challenge the fac bikes so regularly.
Joined Oct 2011
307 Posts | 47+
Up ..... Creek
truent
Hey that wasn't my liquor!
I think I will be able to pull it off this year. Been back in Florida since Sept, but I finally found y way back to the Bay Area, so I'll likely be able to go and meet up again this year.
It's my turn to get you guys eff'ed up on this though!
Hey that wasn't my liquor!
I think I will be able to pull it off this year. Been back in Florida since Sept, but I finally found y way back to the Bay Area, so I'll likely be able to go and meet up again this year.
It's my turn to get you guys eff'ed up on this though!
Jumkie
The fact that the riders have been calling for that wall to be moved for years now, and Mugello has done nothing about it is disgraceful. The fact that it might take a close call with the golden boy for Dorna to force Mugello to move the wall is equally disgraceful, but at least the wall will be moved.
Joined Apr 2008
7K Posts | 3K+
Out of Nowhere
sewarion
Agree 100%. Interestingly though the onboard replay from the start shows that Vale's M1 snagged in third, for some reason he was unable to select fourth. Before he could, the pack was already downshifting for San Donato. Mistake? Technical glitch..perhaps we'll find out it due course. I do believe that like Cal, Vale would have got stronger as the race progressed. Perhaps he, unlike Cal, he wouldn't have 'let Dani win'. Didn't expect to say this so soon....listen to the armchair experts - shut yer mouth and let your riding do the talking now buddy.
Also agree with the earlier comment that it would have made for a more interesting championship standing if Marquez had stopped on and finished second.
Agree 100%. Interestingly though the onboard replay from the start shows that Vale's M1 snagged in third, for some reason he was unable to select fourth. Before he could, the pack was already downshifting for San Donato. Mistake? Technical glitch..perhaps we'll find out it due course. I do believe that like Cal, Vale would have got stronger as the race progressed. Perhaps he, unlike Cal, he wouldn't have 'let Dani win'. Didn't expect to say this so soon....listen to the armchair experts - shut yer mouth and let your riding do the talking now buddy.
Also agree with the earlier comment that it would have made for a more interesting championship standing if Marquez had stopped on and finished second.
Joined Jun 2006
2K Posts | 20+
south wales UK
good race not the best but ok, great ride from jorge and cal again, mm needs to cool off abit... he maybe quick like stoner but doesnt posses the precision just yet.
just seen the heli view bautista clearly lost control and slammed into the side of rossi... what a ....
just seen the heli view bautista clearly lost control and slammed into the side of rossi... what a ....
The problems for Bautista began on Wednesday when he forgot to have his tips refrosted. His dog ran away. His boyfriend dumped him. It all fell apart before he got on the bike.
Joined Apr 2008
7K Posts | 3K+
Out of Nowhere
Joined Feb 2007
6K Posts | 58+
Rovrum S,Yorks Eng
Another Brit manned up this weekend Bradders https://twitter.com/BradleySmith38/status/341265326698283008
Keshav
It's like stirring custard on here - it just gets thicker and thicker.
It doesn't matter what you think, or I think - it is how it looks. Honda race to promote their bikes. So how did it 'look'? Yamaha beat both the factory Hondas - easily ( = Yamaha are better / faster). Marquez crashed the factory Honda 4 times over the weekend (= Hondas crash a lot). A satellite Yamaha nearly caught the factory Honda ( = Hondas must be really slow). To the millions watching, Hondas potential market - that is what you could take away and, more importantly, think about before buying your next bike. Not a good day at the office for Honda.
It's like stirring custard on here - it just gets thicker and thicker.
It doesn't matter what you think, or I think - it is how it looks. Honda race to promote their bikes. So how did it 'look'? Yamaha beat both the factory Hondas - easily ( = Yamaha are better / faster). Marquez crashed the factory Honda 4 times over the weekend (= Hondas crash a lot). A satellite Yamaha nearly caught the factory Honda ( = Hondas must be really slow). To the millions watching, Hondas potential market - that is what you could take away and, more importantly, think about before buying your next bike. Not a good day at the office for Honda.
Joined Aug 2008
6K Posts | 748+
Thailand
ALR
We've been through this .... before... The pure sports bike market is a tiny fraction of sales for the Japs (Ducati different and the fact that their bike is an uncompetitive piece of .... has only seen their sales RISE!!)). If one in a million Honda bike buyers world-wide (ya know they sell billions of scooters and 1000 times the cruisers/standards/dirt bikes, right) bases their buying decisions on the criteria you laid out I'd be surprised.
We've been through this .... before... The pure sports bike market is a tiny fraction of sales for the Japs (Ducati different and the fact that their bike is an uncompetitive piece of .... has only seen their sales RISE!!)). If one in a million Honda bike buyers world-wide (ya know they sell billions of scooters and 1000 times the cruisers/standards/dirt bikes, right) bases their buying decisions on the criteria you laid out I'd be surprised.
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