MotoGP: 2016 Round 12 - Octo British Grand Prix Silverstone Circuit UK (SPOILERS)

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Nice race!

Only 5 riders whith hard/hard tires. 3 of them on the podium (the other two were Aleix and Rabat).

Marc, like at Brno, has finished first among those whith "wrong" tires.

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I thought it was GREAT to see MM being himself and trying to BEAT someone. The announcers were wrong in believing it was about Rossi. This is the MM that won two Championships and makes MotoGP more exciting than it was before him. He went after Cal, too. It just didn't work with the brakes.

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next year Vinales will be the new pet hate of the boppers.
OMG, not the walls, again. It will be a bitch fest if Mav consistently beats Val. I don't want to hear it.

VR is doing well. I am not sure what he or others can be complaining about. The competition is tough and the bikes are more even. Race more - bitch less.
 
I'm a Rossi fan and really enjoyed the race (and no, not just because he beat Marquez).

I'm neutral with Marquez, don't hate him don't like him. But what puzzles me is people complaining that he rides too safe and is just conserving championship points yet today when he did fight with Rossi despite not needing too championship wise people (not directing to anyone here) complain about that too. Poor guy can't catch a break

Amazing we actually agree on something Shaunna. ;)
 
Post Race Conference:

Rossi says.... If you go off the Track is because you made a mistake and should be penalized, shouldn't be allowed to return to your position...

Hmmmmm....Assen 2015.... Rossi did Go off track... Not penalized and won the race.


Whatcha talking about Vale?
 
Post Race Conference:

Rossi says.... If you go off the Track is because you made a mistake and should be penalized, shouldn't be allowed to return to your position...

Hmmmmm....Assen 2015.... Rossi did Go off track... Not penalized and won the race.


Whatcha talking about Vale?

They both went off in that race and it was deemed to have balanced out, as well as contact from MM preceding Rossi's excursion.

There was a certain incident in a certain race at Laguna Seca in 2008 though.
 
Rule of thumb in racing has always been if you go off track, to cede any gained positions back and/or rejoin in the same position you were in prior to running off, safely, if it is possible. Or you just wait and rejoin where you can. MM did nothing wrong.
 
Rule of thumb in racing has always been if you go off track, to cede any gained positions back and/or rejoin in the same position you were in prior to running off, safely, if it is possible. Or you just wait and rejoin where you can. MM did nothing wrong.

Agreed.. MM did it right.

Funny how vr46 flip flops
Lol
 
Rule of thumb in racing has always been if you go off track, to cede any gained positions back and/or rejoin in the same position you were in prior to running off, safely, if it is possible. Or you just wait and rejoin where you can. MM did nothing wrong.

I have always thought it extended to positions maintained as well as gained, unless your name is Valentino Rossi or Lewis Hamilton.
 
The only time I remember somebody getting punished from that was Alonso at Suzuka 2005, but he did use the advantage to pass a car in the following straight so not quite the same.

Rossi was pushed off at Assen last year so not comparable.
 
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I checked it right after the race. Pol hasn't updated anything yet. But He seemed ok on stretcher at least.

What a race. I enjoyed the battle a lot. What happened to Cruch? Self fulfilling prophecy and image training at its the best? Enlightened version of him is annoying and fun at the same time.

Watching MM going nuts was great. Bummer he didn't make it.

Can someone explain why the suzuki bike works well on cold weather?
 
The only time I remember somebody getting punished from that was Alonso at Suzuka 2005, but he did use the advantage to pass a car in the following straight so not quite the same.

Rossi was pushed off at Assen last year so not comparable.

Biaggi in a WSBK race, which I think may have cost him a championship. Several drivers in F1 this year, particularly at Monaco, but oddly not Lewis Hamilton who cut the chicane during that race.

MM was indeed the rider at fault at Assen 2015.
 
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Danny Kent was penalised last year for running off the track. He was made to forsake his position, to the leading rider of the second pack, when he was hunting the leading pack. Same should apply to the prima donnas of MotoGP too (incl VR or MM).

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There was a certain incident in a certain race at Laguna Seca in 2008 though.
Oh, that. I was there and screaming about the illegal pass. I was in the Corkscrew when Marquez practiced the pass in 2013. Yes, he practiced it. I was in the Corkscrew when he made the pass. Gave me a smug laugh because I knew that RD and VR couldn't say anything. Nice payback for a poor original race direction decision.
 
This is what we call a hypothetical scenario.

It's also unprovable. Therefore it means not a thing.

Again, using the past 10 years as "proof" is not even reasonable given the circumstances of 2016, and how a significant variable change in the way of unified software has completely taken away the team's ability to write custom software.

You've made the implied claim that the only reason for seeing satellite bikes at the front is because those riders have "nothing to lose" versus the factory riders. Arrab once stated that if all riders on the grid were given equal bikes, who would be at the front would probably shock most people, and I do agree with him on this. Especially now that the ECU helped close up the field a bit, the satellite bikes have their best opportunity to compete (unless they are fielding certain lesser talented riders) on a level playing field in low grip conditions since there's no custom programming the factory bikes can simply turn to. Mind you the factory teams still have an advantage with the overall number of techs, but the rain long has had an ability to give the very talented a chance to shine whether it is motorcycle or car racing. It has nothing to do with nothing to lose, and more to do with it being one of the very few opportunities a rider has to show off his respective talent. It's precisely why your thoughts on Scott Redding are misguided. You may not like him personally, but he's a far better rider than you ever have been willing to give him credit for. At any rate, a couple of the factory riders are in desperate need of points, and as I already stated, they don't have the luxury to ride for position in the wet like MM.
No, registered finishes are not hypothetical scenarios, they are factual finishes and i will say it again, the same riders who win in the dry are overwhelmingly the same riders who win in the wet. You can try and convince yourself otherwise but you are kidding yourself.
 
No, registered finishes are not hypothetical scenarios, they are factual finishes and i will say it again, the same riders who win in the dry are overwhelmingly the same riders who win in the wet. You can try and convince yourself otherwise but you are kidding yourself.

Again prior seasons are irrelevant to this year since circumstances have drastically changed with regards to the ECU. We've had multiple factories win, two satellite teams win, and a number of first time riders win this season. Apples to oranges bro. This isn't the 990cc, 800cc, or early 1000cc circumstances at play here.
 
Post Race Conference:

Rossi says.... If you go off the Track is because you made a mistake and should be penalized, shouldn't be allowed to return to your position...

Hmmmmm....Assen 2015.... Rossi did Go off track... Not penalized and won the race.


Whatcha talking about Vale?

You mean when he was rammed into by Marquez at the chicane? Don't you have some pubic hair to sweep up after? Keep reaching, I'd be more worry about the decline of rider in your avatar not Vale who's still battling at 37. MM didn't gain a position but emerged with a ridiculous amount more speed and momentum going off the track.
 
Hi Everyone

What a great weekend of motorcycling racing. What a great season.

Steve the lurker
 
Again prior seasons are irrelevant to this year since circumstances have drastically changed with regards to the ECU. We've had multiple factories win, two satellite teams win, and a number of first time riders win this season. Apples to oranges bro. This isn't the 990cc, 800cc, or early 1000cc circumstances at play here.
Prior seasons are not irrelevvant, you think they are because it doesnt fit your fantasy.Go back and look at wet races before the sophisticated ecu's, still overwhelmingly the same winners. You have this fantasy that backmarkers are really as good as the top riders but the numbers foil you at every turn. So Jack Miller won a wet race, do you really think that Marquez would have pulled over and let him go if it meant anything. Crutchlow won a wet race because he was in the position to gamble, nothing less, nothing more. If he had anything to lose he probably doesnt take that gamble.
 

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