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Yes, he was concerned that it might be an act of treason.
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If anything it brought us all together
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..... tends to do that.
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Yeah . . . not really. Amongst race fans who've been following the sport for decades, Rossi is (was) an notable blip on the radar who looms overlarge in the minds of 30-year-olds because they bonded with him when he first blew-up big in the fast expanding new world of social media, click bait hyperbole. I'm sure Mike M will accuse me of cod psychology, but my theory is that Vale's most rabid fanbase consists mostly of angry 25-year old - to 60-year-old males with absent dads - precisely the type that are drawn to cult of personality scenarios. This forum goes weeks and months without mentioning him.
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I don’t have mich problem with him these days. He seems to be enjoying the sports car racing without controversy, and the guy is as smart as all hell as was always obvious, his rider school has been outstandingly successful producing a dual Italian world champion and other race winners after years of Spanish domination, and his MotoGP team is going well for a satellite team, maybe Ucchio does know something about bike racing after all.
The only things i have trouble with are the continuation of the MM feud via his protégés, and claims from time to time the 2015 title was stolen from him. I would have had no problem acknowledging his title as a great achievement particularly at his then age if things had continued as they had been for most of the season through to the end of the season, but as we have just discussed yet again the plain facts are that he just wasn’t fast enough in mainly dry races at the end of the season. Not beating Pedrosa and Iannone cost him enough points to lose the championship. MM actually helped him at PI taking 5 points away from Lorenzo, and the Sepang 2015 contretemps also gained Rossi a net 3 points imo.
The so called “mind games”/off track manipulations rather than admirable or clever were imo just chickenshit not to put too fine a point on things however.
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Just for your info, if you're a native Spanish speaker like yours truly, you can really tell it's an elaborate shitpost made with DeepL or Google translator. Not only it sounds extremely robotic but the dialogue also uses several phrases that are really weird sounding in Spanish and clearly come from a straight direct translation. Not to mention the laughable notion of Jorge finding Vale "too fast" in the last stages of the championship. I'll go in detail:
This is a direct translation of "Morning" as a greeting early in the day. No one, and I mean no one greets like this in Spain. In fact if somebody said to me "Mañana" I'd believe he's talking about something that's gonna happen the day after (mañana can mean both morning and tomorrow).
Very stilted and formal phrase. Correct for formal settings but no one would talk like that informally to a colleague. Funnily enough, you could've made it believable by adding a 'tío' (dude) at the end.
Extremely funny phrase (I need you to stop Vale, he's too fast and he'll catch me). Who are you fooling? Vale is the one who was too slow in the last rounds. Also the phrasing again sounds way too robotic and formal.
No one, and I mean no one says things like to a friend, much less to a simple professional colleague. It's a direct translation of "I love you" but that phrase isn't lightly thrown around in Spanish, people would literally think you're in love with them. I think it's safe to say that Jorge wasn't confessing his romantic love for Marc. Protip: use "Te quiero" next time, still very rare to say between two heterosexual males but more plausible as a phrase thrown in an affective way, not without a little bit of playfulness just like the way Spaniards insult each other affectively.
Of course a paella namedrop, to make a believable cliché. Turns out every Spaniard eats paella every day didn't you know? hahaha. Also another phrase that doesn't sound native at all. It would be something like "¿Vas a hacer paella el lunes?". Haciendo in this case is the wrong verbal case.
I just did it, y si tienes dudas, pregúntame cualquier cosa
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Again I must put my ignorance on display but I was under the impression VR and Ianonne were great mates.
I think they were as well, that was the telling occurrence, he called his troops off Iannone who was copping considerable flak for beating him at PI and sooled them on to Marquez.
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calm down everyone or the lynch mob will turn up
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Calm down?
I think the implausability of the VR camp's stance has been calmly and methodically pointed out in this thread in the recent posts.
I have enjoyed reading the competent analysis.
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If you're including yourself amongst the race fans who've been following the sport for decades, you certainly seem to engage in a high amount of Rossi-talk indicating he's much more than a blip on your radar.
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Their relationship was never the same after PI. I am sure if you ask Vale he'd say the same as he did above to MM. But Ianonne never did another race or day at the gaslight ranch again. I have never seen them talk after that.
The thing is if he had retired after the 7th/9th title his status would be absolutely unchallenged even by most of the posters who remain on here from that time. I wasn’t exactly a fan, I was a Stoner fanboy from 2007 on and wanted him to win, but was a big time Doohan fan back in his day, and actually posted on another forum as Doohan fan. I conceded Valentino was Doohan’s superior after the 6th title, let alone the 7th, and wasn’t big on the advantages thing, Doohan and most of the top riders who preceded him had similar advantages, it goes with the territory. Few if any thought he needed to do anything more to be rated ahead of Ago either. The strange celebration where he as far as I could tell from translations dubbed himsel an old boiler was perhaps prophetic.
As Povol iirc said after subsequent events including the Ducati adventure and his return to Yamaha while Ross is obviously still among the greatest ever it is harder to put him on a level above the other greats as most did back in 2009.
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Hadn’t really noticed that, fits the pattern I guess.
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Like new-to-the-sport fans who have a limited perception of the sport, you who rarely ever come around here, except to talk about Rossi, would naturally have that perception. You would be hard-pressed to find a thread anywhere on this forum where I introduced the topic. Especially post retirement. In fact . . . I'll send you $5.00 if you can find a post on this forum where I mentioned Rossi except in response to another post. I understand that it might be inconceivable to you, but I simply don't share your fascination.
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