I think that's an illogical leap. I don't think there's a sole person saying that, or wishing for that. What people actually wanted was a race. We didn't see that today, in the traditional sense.
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I think that's an illogical leap. I don't think there's a sole person saying that, or wishing for that. What people actually wanted was a race. We didn't see that today, in the traditional sense.
Do you live on Phillips Island, or something
Forget about PI, i'm asking about the portions of his quote that pertain to today's race.
You quoted Rossi as saying "because he was playing his dirty game, even worse than in Australia."
(EDIT And added the second paragraph to your post after I replied).
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It's like one of those French movies you watch with the girlfriend. You keep watching and watching then all of a sudden, it's over and the screen goes black and you realize the screenwriter didn't know how to write an ending. I'm seriously pissed. Regardless of what Dorna does, the ending will be anti-climatic, except for people who like horror movies where the bad guy appears to be vanquished and then at the last second let's you know he'll be back in the sequel.
There were some best few laps of the year.
Also greatest disappointment since I'm watching motogp.
Rossi got mindfucked, got something to chew and he could not swallow it. I think we all might understand why he did it, but beside reckless it is just a sad move from someone called sportsman. Rossi should have learned beside winning also how to loose. It is not shameful to loose at 36, not shameful even it is probably the last chance to win a championship. Win like a champ and loose like a champ.
Also greatest disappointment since I'm watching motogp.
Rossi got mindfucked, got something to chew and he could not swallow it. I think we all might understand why he did it, but beside reckless it is just a sad move from someone called sportsman. Rossi should have learned beside winning also how to loose. It is not shameful to loose at 36, not shameful even it is probably the last chance to win a championship. Win like a champ and loose like a champ.
Ok, yes that was in there. I was only really asking about today's part.
Sorry, no ill intent. My fault, i did a poor part of explaining my questions. My mistake.
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We had a RACE today, Rossi stopped it be using his machine as a deadly weapon. The fact you fail to see there was a RACE while lamenting you were cheated of a race is mind-boggling. You and others are arguing that this race should only be conducted by Rossi vs Lorenzo. But there are 20 other contestants, Rossi chose NOT TO RACE!
Rossi CHOSE not to RACE!
Jum, we all can and have watched the helicopter footage. There's not a single frame that shows Rossi using his machine as a deadly weapon. If anything the deadly weapon is Rossi's frail little leg.
And the point i made earlier is that if Marquez wanted to avoid contact, he could've quite easily.
I think they're both at fault, and yes Rossi did start the war of words that spilled onto the track.
The game of grab ... VR and MM played on the track today was not racing.
EDIT: Also the race we're truly being cheated of would've come next week.
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Almost like the ending of The Sopranos. Only that did make sense in retrospect once you factored in everything that went on during the entire run of the show, and in particular the final episodes...as well as how the last episode was shot.
Today wasn't that though, it was two petulant children who couldn't let go.
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Oh that was good lol.
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Gotta disagree with you on the using the machine as a deadly weapon.
No such thing was done today. It was pretty much down to contact that was avoidable because however Rossi wants to play it, he was looking to block MM out over perceived slights that frankly we will have no idea if are true. If MM was in fact looking to ruin Rossi's title run, he is never going to admit that....well he won't admit it for many years when he decides to write his autobiography as that would generate huge interest.
Yes we were robbed of a race because of Rossi deciding to play a game, but the Valencia race is really what I wanted to see badly, speaking purely as a racing fan.
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I hear you. I just dont think speaking the truth on Lorenzo's part should be kept quite because it would benefit him.
Its a slippery slope to question Marc's intentions, but to do so when he raced Rossi cleanly (including PI) is concerning for the soundness of the sport. As I've been saying, this has been a coup by Rossi, and it's infected the entire narrative. Rossi character assassination has paid off in spades.
The fact we are rationalizing and entertaining possible blame on Marc for an exceedingly blatantly and obviously attack by Rossi to eliminate a rival by crashing, and all the dangers that conjures, is simply astonishing.
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JP brotha from anotha motha, was Casey Stoner's opinion self-serving? And the better question, is he correct?
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Taking another rider wide unexpectedly by controlling an object into a path requiring the victim to take evasive action, resulting in a dangerous outcome like a crash, IS using a machine as a deadly weapon. You just disagreed, but then only attempted to explain an opinion WHY perhaps Rossi did this.
You will get to see the race you say you want at Valencia. Race Dornaection has rigged it to happen. The correct decisions would have been a black flag disqualification. Rossi ruined the race, we can thank Race Dornaection for preserving said race at Valencia.
I'll quote my a text I got from Rog, "the 'punishment' has be used as a tool to promote Valencia."
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Vale will not be world champion. I say that with certainty.
I think what he should do is shut up for two weeks until the Valencia Thursday presser. He should announce he is sitting out the race, congratulate Jorge on being world champion, and leave That does two things for him. One, Marc can't torpedoed him during the race, and this championship will be remembered as Vale "giving it to him."
I think Jorge has earned the championship, but as far as Vale mental warfare, I would think he would come out on top.
I think what he should do is shut up for two weeks until the Valencia Thursday presser. He should announce he is sitting out the race, congratulate Jorge on being world champion, and leave That does two things for him. One, Marc can't torpedoed him during the race, and this championship will be remembered as Vale "giving it to him."
I think Jorge has earned the championship, but as far as Vale mental warfare, I would think he would come out on top.
Rossi lost though. His primary goal was to win a 10th Championship, not ruin MM character; neither of which has been done by the way.
This should be a happy moment for you from everything we've spoke about. No "Que Yellow Smoke". No Rossi/Dorna 10th championship. No Bopper Parade. No nothing. Lorenzo is the Champ. Rossi is the Chump.
Jum, I know you're very knowledgeable when it comes to this sport. You just perfectly described most of Marquez's passes. Seriously. The Block Pass.
Is not. Riders many times block each others way. When passing someone the rider loosing the pass has to take evasive action. And the guy in front doesn't care if the other must take evasive action. Many times both of them run wide. In this scenario however it was just dumb to do it, but this does not qualify it to deadly weapon.
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I look at it from this perspective.
If I was in MM's shoes, after that press conference Thursday, I would have damn sure stayed away from Valentino in the race just because it was obvious he looked and was acting like a deranged lunatic. If he wasn't sure then, he should have been sure after the talk with the Italian media that Rossi seriously believed the .... coming out of his mouth.
The approach I would have taken if I felt I could not keep pace with Dani would have been to follow Rossi to see if an overtake would have stuck would be possible, and if not, wait till later in the race, if not the final lap to overtake VR and make it stick. I wouldn't battle it out with a guy who thinks I was conspiring with someone else to ruin his title battle because rational thought is not going to win the day here. I don't believe in getting put into situations that are not going to have a good outcome, it's about managing situations.
The more I see the replay the more I am convinced it was not Rossi's knee on MM helmet to knock him down. It is impossible to knock a MotoGP down that way, not even if you hit the bike. The body position of MM on the bike is weird, he lost the front before making contact, look at the movement of his wheel, and then he opens the throttle way too soo if he intended to make the turn...unless he wanted to overtake on the outside...
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