IT'S RACE WEEK!!!! Round 1 - PT Thai Grand Prix

michaelm · 2025-03-05T08:48:02-0800

#22 said:
Exactly my point from earlier. I found Q2 somewhat underwhelming because it looked like he was cruising around, a la Jorge Lorenzo.

Maybe it's finally going to come out that bucking bronco was Honda...not Marc.

Nakamoto said the control ECU would screw Honda. The bike/engine were designed to be tamed by the bespoke electronics. I guess while the software between Marc’s ears , his reflexes and his bravery and/or foolhardiness were still allowing Honda to win they didn’t see the need for a radical re-design. Then Gigi designed bikes with aero etc which allowed riders to replicate what MM did without his impossible to replicate riding talent, particularly with him mostly having a poorly functioning arm and with aero having always been anathema to the Honda engineering philosophy.

Keshav · 2025-03-05T09:50:46-0800

Faz said:
If the reason for the minimum tyre pressure bollox is because of concern that the tyre may roll off the rim why can’t they run a Tubeliss type system that’s run in mx and enduro?
This system features a small very high pressure inner tube that expands against the bead of the tyre forcing it against the wheel rim so there is no chance of leaks. Tyre air pressure can be added to the area around the inner tube in the normal way.

Just a guess, but I'd imagine that such a system as you described would not be compatible with the needs of riders who need to do multiple quick changes of tires during practice and quali.

Keshav · 2025-03-05T09:58:29-0800

DavidSim said:
I think I will pass on that.

Aw c'mon . . . don't be shy, you, 22, Dub and me - to make it a four-stroke.

#22 · 2025-03-05T10:38:33-0800

michaelm said:
Nakamoto said the control ECU would screw Honda. The bike/engine were designed to be tamed by the bespoke electronics. I guess while the software between Marc’s ears , his reflexes and his bravery and/or foolhardiness were still allowing Honda to win they didn’t see the need for a radical re-design. Then Gigi designed bikes with aero etc which allowed riders to replicate what MM did without his impossible to replicate riding talent, particularly with him mostly having a poorly functioning arm and with aero having always been anathema to the Honda engineering philosophy.

Not to sound like a visionary, because others have said it too. But, Marc on the late 2010's Honda was similar to Casey Stoner on the 2008-2010 Ducati. They were winning on it through talent alone which made their manufacturers complacent, only when both left (or had injury enforced layoff in the case of the latter) did they realise how much they were in trouble.

Keshav · 2025-03-05T10:46:08-0800

#22 said:
Maybe it's finally going to come out that bucking bronco was Honda...not Marc.

Not meant in a “gotcha” snarky way, but hasn’t that been received wisdom for some time now, at least on this forum?

Marc leaving HRC and going to Ducati I thought, was equivalent to when Stoner stopped burning himself out on the Ducati to ride the then supreme Honda. If he’d done it 5 years ago, he’d probably have 10 championships by now, not to mention far fewer surgeries.

Edit: LOL - I wrote this before refreshing the page and now see our thinking was in parallel.

#22 · 2025-03-05T10:49:34-0800

Keshav said:
Not meant in a “gotcha” snarky way, but hasn’t that been received wisdom for some time now, at least on this forum?

On this forum yes, but in the wider world, I'd say no.

JCtx · 2025-03-05T13:07:55-0800

Barbedwirebikerr said:
Marc's pole lap. So smooth, that it looks slow.

Damn; that was impressive indeed. Thank you for posting that. I didn't think Marc could be that smooth; he's the whole package now. He was obviously over-riding his lesser bikes before... but he doesn't have to anymore. I'm really looking forward to the next few races, to see if that form continues, especially on his less preferred venues. We're witnessing a level of greatness not seen before IMO. Barring disaster, it should continue. But Pecco will definitely close that gap; the only question is how quickly. That's also what I'm curious about.

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