2024 Round 15: Pertamina Grand Prix of Indonesia - Pertamina Mandalika Circuit

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BTW: KTM didn't win any races last year, and it's starting to look like they won't win any this year. It's not good. If Acosta keeps on having races like this I suppose he'll eventually inherit a win, but I'd like to seem him really go out and win one.
I am wondering how long Acosta has signed for. Is he going to stay there until 27 if they remain below par
 
Glad to see Pedro did not get a BS penalty. I hate that rule.

I am starting to believe Aron Canet and Jorge Martin are twins who were separated at birth.

David Alonso does it yet again. There is a lot of great young talent coming through Moto2 and Moto3. I believe the series will be in good hands for years to come.
 
I gave up the idea of Marc having a shot at the championship after Mugello. Even without today's DNFs winning the championship would have been a long shot for Marc and also for Enea.

It's difficult to enjoy the races because I want Jörg to win this championship so bad. I'm absolutely anxious during every lap of every race. This might be his only shot at a championship.
Had to chuckle at this since this is how I feel. He’s a great rider, if not a bit emotional which I actually find interesting in a positive way. I agree that this could well be his only chance and would be well deserved.
 
Am I the only one thinking team orders are already done ? Bez went "wide" and Morbidelli forgot to throttle when Princesso was 0.2s behind them.
Without talking about consipiracy, Pecco shew again he's not comfortable when he's not alone in track despite having the best bike. Martin threw it again by leaving Mandalika with 3 points less instead of 12 more, but great ride on Sunday.
Fanstatic ride from Acosta, can't wait to see him dominate Bestia on the same bikes just to see (again) how Ducati Cup is dumb.
Same for Quartararo and Zarco, riding in the same laptimes than leaders but I believe track conditions are the reasons... It seems clear now that both brands reduced their power to have more traction/cornering after riders interviews.
Without injuries for Martin and Pecco, I think Marquez and Bestia are now out for the crown but both will have their words to say until the end.
After what we saw this week-end, particularly Ducati management faces seeing Martin performances, I still think the latter needs much more...
 
Am I the only one thinking team orders are already done ? Bez went "wide" and Morbidelli forgot to throttle when Princesso was 0.2s behind them.
Without talking about consipiracy, Pecco shew again he's not comfortable when he's not alone in track despite having the best bike. Martin threw it again by leaving Mandalika with 3 points less instead of 12 more, but great ride on Sunday.
Fanstatic ride from Acosta, can't wait to see him dominate Bestia on the same bikes just to see (again) how Ducati Cup is dumb.
Same for Quartararo and Zarco, riding in the same laptimes than leaders but I believe track conditions are the reasons... It seems clear now that both brands reduced their power to have more traction/cornering after riders interviews.
Without injuries for Martin and Pecco, I think Marquez and Bestia are now out for the crown but both will have their words to say until the end.
After what we saw this week-end, particularly Ducati management faces seeing Martin performances, I still think the latter needs much more...
Pecco seems very comfortable slicing and dicing at the start of races when he's not on pole. It only seems to be later in the race that things don't go so well.
 
Do we think the fellow VR46 riders moved over to let Pecco pass?

He just doesn't seem to be particularly good at passing people unless it's a cutback from them passing him. Yet both MB and FM who had been dicing with each other, seemed to just slow and move over for an easy Pecco pass...

Am I in need of tin foil for hat making?
 
Am I the only one thinking team orders are already done ? Bez went "wide" and Morbidelli forgot to throttle when Princesso was 0.2s behind them.
Without talking about consipiracy, Pecco shew again he's not comfortable when he's not alone in track despite having the best bike. Martin threw it again by leaving Mandalika with 3 points less instead of 12 more, but great ride on Sunday.
Fanstatic ride from Acosta, can't wait to see him dominate Bestia on the same bikes just to see (again) how Ducati Cup is dumb.
Same for Quartararo and Zarco, riding in the same laptimes than leaders but I believe track conditions are the reasons... It seems clear now that both brands reduced their power to have more traction/cornering after riders interviews.
Without injuries for Martin and Pecco, I think Marquez and Bestia are now out for the crown but both will have their words to say until the end.
After what we saw this week-end, particularly Ducati management faces seeing Martin performances, I still think the latter needs much more...
Oh, I just wrote similar without having seen your post. Totally agree
 
Am I the only one thinking team orders are already done ? Bez went "wide" and Morbidelli forgot to throttle when Princesso was 0.2s behind them.
I think Bez put up a genuine fight with Pecco and eventually made a small mistake. However, I find it difficult to buy into Pecco’s explanation of using his ride height device to create a DRS effect. Though he may have triggered the device, the pass seemed like Franco got a blue flag. 😆 Franco staying out of the way of Pecco’s fight for maximum points maybe?
 
I am sure the 4 non title challenging (6 after this week) Ducatis have been told to not engage with the title challengers, unless there’s a clean overtake on the horizon.

Bastianini’s Misano II move for example will probably be met with strong disapproval from here on (Not that they can do much more than that, as he probably couldn’t care less about pleasing Ducati management).

That’s as close to team orders you can get without resorting to Mapping8.

It is moments like this that one misses Paolo Ciabatti. It was his job to maintain decorum within the camp when things got heated, and he did it well. I don’t know what his replacement, Grasilli is up to, but it’s certainly not that.
 
I am sure the 4 non title challenging (6 after this week) Ducatis have been told to not engage with the title challengers, unless there’s a clean overtake on the horizon.

Bastianini’s Misano II move for example will probably be met with strong disapproval from here on (Not that they can do much more than that, as he probably couldn’t care less about pleasing Ducati management).

That’s as close to team orders you can get without resorting to Mapping8.

It is moments like this that one misses Paolo Ciabatti. It was his job to maintain decorum within the camp when things got heated, and he did it well. I don’t know what his replacement, Grasilli is up to, but it’s certainly not that.
With both Pramac and Martin leaving Ducati next year, I'd say this rule only applies to Pecco. They might not outright say it but no one is getting a map 8 message for Jorge.
 
I am sure the 4 non title challenging (6 after this week) Ducatis have been told to not engage with the title challengers, unless there’s a clean overtake on the horizon.

Bastianini’s Misano II move for example will probably be met with strong disapproval from here on (Not that they can do much more than that, as he probably couldn’t care less about pleasing Ducati management).

That’s as close to team orders you can get without resorting to Mapping8.

It is moments like this that one misses Paolo Ciabatti. It was his job to maintain decorum within the camp when things got heated, and he did it well. I don’t know what his replacement, Grasilli is up to, but it’s certainly not that.
At the time I thought that may have influenced Enea’s thinking on getting the tough pass on Martin done. He’d taken a pretty safe 2nd place (while he was upright) away from Pecco and if he didn’t go on to win may have been met with frowns on his return to the garage? But then I thought why should he give a damn Ducati gave him the flick, who knows?
 
Here's my opinion. From now it's 5v1 :
- Marquez brothers will not play Pecco's game for sure.
- Bastianini will have pleasure to avoid Martin's title chances after trashtalk of 2022.
- Yellow clowns are actually cleaning Pecco's suit for Japan GP so no need to say more.
 
I am sure the 4 non title challenging (6 after this week) Ducatis have been told to not engage with the title challengers, unless there’s a clean overtake on the horizon.

Bastianini’s Misano II move for example will probably be met with strong disapproval from here on (Not that they can do much more than that, as he probably couldn’t care less about pleasing Ducati management).

That’s as close to team orders you can get without resorting to Mapping8.

It is moments like this that one misses Paolo Ciabatti. It was his job to maintain decorum within the camp when things got heated, and he did it well. I don’t know what his replacement, Grasilli is up to, but it’s certainly not that.
Had the distinct feeling that his desperate last lap move was a cry for attention, to say to Ducati " Look at me. I'm just as good as Pecco."
 
Do we think the fellow VR46 riders moved over to let Pecco pass?

He just doesn't seem to be particularly good at passing people unless it's a cutback from them passing him. Yet both MB and FM who had been dicing with each other, seemed to just slow and move over for an easy Pecco pass...

Am I in need of tin foil for hat making?
yeah, after keeping him behind for 10+ laps 😏
 
With both Pramac and Martin leaving Ducati next year, I'd say this rule only applies to Pecco. They might not outright say it but no one is getting a map 8 message for Jorge.
Agree they won’t have any conditions on JM. Ducati have leverage on Morbidelli and Digi, and Bezzecchi might help out a fellow ranch hand, although perhaps not if he sees no future with Ducati or VR46 even in the long term. MM will imo do what he has done all year to ensure full support next season ie more likely being crashed into than taking out Bagnaia. AM likely won’t be close enough to engage him.

I am not sure mapping 8 was heeded in the past anyway. They can withhold upgrades etc.
 
General discussion on tyre pressure rules and their implementation here:


The title sums it up: Is MotoGP's tyre pressure rule making it look stupid?

I'm not sure what can be done if otherwise teams will run tyres at dangerously low pressures. If Michelin's claims are true, of course.
 

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