I was at the last corner all race. seriously fantastic finish. three groups of people fighting it out the whole time. pedrosa looked weak though. I was surprised he passed Lorenzo. every time he came out of the corner he did that little head shake off his. like I'm not tough enough can I go home now. you can tell Hayden just doesn't give a .... anymore. can't blame him. ducati have put him last every year since he was hired. disappointed crutchlow lost out at the end to Rossi's obnoxiously loud fans. the beginning of the race cracked me up - LOOK LOOK LOOK IT'S ROSSI they pointed enthusiastically HE'S IN NINTH PLACE ONE SPOT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR. pretty good for my first ever gp race
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i hope so, you really let me down on this one bj.
starting to get a bit worried about marquez. ok both pedro and lorenzo are a bit banged up and the yamaha could surely use a few more hp and the new gearbox but murderous marc is starting to make them look a bit stupid
starting to get a bit worried about marquez. ok both pedro and lorenzo are a bit banged up and the yamaha could surely use a few more hp and the new gearbox but murderous marc is starting to make them look a bit stupid
Big Jorge
I told you he would podium at Indy and the biggest thing is he did not fall all weekend which means he will be stronger next week.
I told you he would podium at Indy and the biggest thing is he did not fall all weekend which means he will be stronger next week.
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hopefully they change the track layout for next year - crutchlow suggested using the banking. dunno if possible, but would be great. at least re-pave it. circuit as is is no good.
MM: nice.
DP+JL: ok.
VR: .... pace, good result.
Crutch, Bautista: good pace, .... result.
Bradl: .... pace, .... result.
Smith: now that came handy.
Hayden finding two ways for eigth, making Doci take a nine for a seven.
Iannone: well, ok I guess.
btw impressed with Rabat and especially Rins in the small classes.
MM: nice.
DP+JL: ok.
VR: .... pace, good result.
Crutch, Bautista: good pace, .... result.
Bradl: .... pace, .... result.
Smith: now that came handy.
Hayden finding two ways for eigth, making Doci take a nine for a seven.
Iannone: well, ok I guess.
btw impressed with Rabat and especially Rins in the small classes.
Jumkie
The Hayden move on Dovizioso was a bit cheeky, but legal. Last corner, Dovi leaves a gap, Hayden chucks it up there. I did actually think of you when I saw that. "Estoril 2006!" I thought.
Marc Marquez, like all professional motorcycle races, is an ........ However, he is the most talented ....... riding a motorcycle at the moment, and possibly one of the best ever. He also benefits from having perhaps the best crew and clearly the best bike. But as I have tried to drill into your tiny brains for the past two years, it ain't the bike. He destroyed his teammate and the reigning world champ.
The Hayden move on Dovizioso was a bit cheeky, but legal. Last corner, Dovi leaves a gap, Hayden chucks it up there. I did actually think of you when I saw that. "Estoril 2006!" I thought.
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I don't think Marc is an ........ I think hes a nice kid. But lets face it, hes got three challengers out there. Two of them on healing wings...and a has been. That bike is good, lets not down play this, but it don't ride itself, I'm aware. But hes got to beat Pedrosa...something I've been trying to drill into your tiny brains is completely overrated. So he beat Pedro on the same bike...I'm supposed to be impressed? Hahaha. The kid is fast man, don't go all Kropo on me. Its like being all proud of VR beating Cal to the line. Uhm, yeah MF. Anyway...now that all the Jap factory riders are about well again, surprise surprise, 1,2,3,4. Its not the bike, but it sure don't hinder does it?
I don't think Marc is an ........ I think hes a nice kid. But lets face it, hes got three challengers out there. Two of them on healing wings...and a has been. That bike is good, lets not down play this, but it don't ride itself, I'm aware. But hes got to beat Pedrosa...something I've been trying to drill into your tiny brains is completely overrated. So he beat Pedro on the same bike...I'm supposed to be impressed? Hahaha. The kid is fast man, don't go all Kropo on me. Its like being all proud of VR beating Cal to the line. Uhm, yeah MF. Anyway...now that all the Jap factory riders are about well again, surprise surprise, 1,2,3,4. Its not the bike, but it sure don't hinder does it?
Jumkie
And Pedrosa is not overrated, you are just a Hayden fan. It's like asking Rossi fans about the Ducati in 2007.
The four best riders in the world (well, three, no question, the fourth is open to debate) are on those bikes. So you have to beat the best in the world to win. Which Marquez does. Which makes him the best in the world.
And Pedrosa is not overrated, you are just a Hayden fan. It's like asking Rossi fans about the Ducati in 2007.
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Kropotkin
Ok like asking Kropo about that Marc Marquez kid, eh. No balance or scruples, eh? Ha!
Krops, they did a nice interview of Marc before the race on Fox Sport1 (our new ch that replaced Speed). Every time I see an interview of Marc, I like the kid more and more. You got it in your head that I don't like him, you are simply wrong. I will say I do use him as an example of my conviction that this series is skewed for Spanish success. The kid is an outlier, but this should make it even more ...... up that even their best is giving a helping hand. This bothers me, and as you know I have argued the case robustly. Same with Vr btw, as I don't dislike him outright, but it did bother me that he was also facilitated. Those other kids that work their ... off like Dovi and Nicky are relegated to make fireworks for ....... 9th and 10th. The Duc sat team is all but dead in the water...so I can only imagine where the likes of Marc and Pedro, and Lorenzo (as much as I know they are super talented) would be on these bikes. Oh well, eh buddy. As Nicky said, "Don't cry for me, I got it pretty good."
Ok like asking Kropo about that Marc Marquez kid, eh. No balance or scruples, eh? Ha!
Krops, they did a nice interview of Marc before the race on Fox Sport1 (our new ch that replaced Speed). Every time I see an interview of Marc, I like the kid more and more. You got it in your head that I don't like him, you are simply wrong. I will say I do use him as an example of my conviction that this series is skewed for Spanish success. The kid is an outlier, but this should make it even more ...... up that even their best is giving a helping hand. This bothers me, and as you know I have argued the case robustly. Same with Vr btw, as I don't dislike him outright, but it did bother me that he was also facilitated. Those other kids that work their ... off like Dovi and Nicky are relegated to make fireworks for ....... 9th and 10th. The Duc sat team is all but dead in the water...so I can only imagine where the likes of Marc and Pedro, and Lorenzo (as much as I know they are super talented) would be on these bikes. Oh well, eh buddy. As Nicky said, "Don't cry for me, I got it pretty good."
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Kropotkin
Lex said it best, you guys can't see past what you "know". Case and point, who would have thought Cal would be doing this good in GP after two home wins in that other junior series, not even as good as that awesome Spanish national series... (I'm sure you'll miss my point). But give a guy with decent talent a chance, and you sometimes get a real diamond. The opposite is true I believe, you give a decent rider all the best, top to bottom, and rules changes and other unknown facilitations, and you get a Spanish dominated series were even learned and keen eyed experts such as yourself cannot see beyond what you "know". I don't want to rehash last weeks debates, but quite simply you're a fool if you don't realize there is a skewed system at play here...with all 'do' respect.
Lex said it best, you guys can't see past what you "know". Case and point, who would have thought Cal would be doing this good in GP after two home wins in that other junior series, not even as good as that awesome Spanish national series... (I'm sure you'll miss my point). But give a guy with decent talent a chance, and you sometimes get a real diamond. The opposite is true I believe, you give a decent rider all the best, top to bottom, and rules changes and other unknown facilitations, and you get a Spanish dominated series were even learned and keen eyed experts such as yourself cannot see beyond what you "know". I don't want to rehash last weeks debates, but quite simply you're a fool if you don't realize there is a skewed system at play here...with all 'do' respect.
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Jumkie
Of course they're all ......... You don't get to that place in any competitive sport without having an incredibly narrow focus. When your attention is restricted to training, practice, knowledge of motorcycles, the politics of the sport, dealing with lawyers and agents brokering deals based on how ....... incredibly talented you are - you get an ego the the size of a house and don't end up being a well-rounded person with great social skills. These guys spend their free time, screwing dimwitted umbrella bimbos, playing video games, watching car chase movies and hanging out with other racers who basically want to talk about the same limited few topics. How many of these guys do you think ever read a book (Jane's Gun Recognition Guide doesn't count) that isn't about motorcycles or cars (or great car or motorcycle racers)? If you're surrounded by people who constantly tell you how great you are and almost never tell you when you're wrong, you basically end up being a spoiled kid. I'll bet if you gathered up all the racers in the paddock, you'd be lucky if you found one guy who knew the name of the President of Haiti or even France for that matter.
Jumkie
Of course they're all ......... You don't get to that place in any competitive sport without having an incredibly narrow focus. When your attention is restricted to training, practice, knowledge of motorcycles, the politics of the sport, dealing with lawyers and agents brokering deals based on how ....... incredibly talented you are - you get an ego the the size of a house and don't end up being a well-rounded person with great social skills. These guys spend their free time, screwing dimwitted umbrella bimbos, playing video games, watching car chase movies and hanging out with other racers who basically want to talk about the same limited few topics. How many of these guys do you think ever read a book (Jane's Gun Recognition Guide doesn't count) that isn't about motorcycles or cars (or great car or motorcycle racers)? If you're surrounded by people who constantly tell you how great you are and almost never tell you when you're wrong, you basically end up being a spoiled kid. I'll bet if you gathered up all the racers in the paddock, you'd be lucky if you found one guy who knew the name of the President of Haiti or even France for that matter.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you man. I don't think these guys are ........, except for a small minority. The guys who stand out as ....... I could name you almost by name to a man (of those's I met and some from reputation): Maladin to top the list. From the current GP grid: Nicky, Dovi, Bradl, Aoyama, Lorenzo, Bautista, Smith, Iannone, Edwards, AEspargaro, Petrucci, Hernandez. All these were very nice to me, and all I've ever read about them were good things about their personality.
Rossi, Marc & Pedrosa, were all nice to me when I met them too (though VR did hobble away and paid me no mind when I asked for an autograph, but I could actually understand). The ....... part for me comes from disregard to fellow competitors. Marc, as nice and go lucky as he seems, had simply put lots of careers and himself in questionable danger (though after he almost took out Pedro and Jlo, that talk somebody surely had with him has made him much more prudent, ie today's passes). Same goes with VR. Pedrosa, he is a special case for me. I really think he was an "......." as a man, though I will admit, I think most came from his manager and mentor. I bet he would be nicer if his coach wasn't telling him that getting ahead also included trying to .... over others with less clout, that meant Nicky. He couldn't with Stoner because the man was simply 2x as good, and Marc is 2x as good with the clout and full backing of the series. But just look at the times his character has been tested. Nicky days, Bridgestone debacle, chatter issues, all the times he has used his clout to whine and eventually get his way.
Btw, all those things you said, I don't see why that would make ........ or ignorants per se. Boning umbrella ....., how does that make anyone dumb. It would make me feel like a genius and a million bucks. President of Haiti is Bob Marley, right?
I'm gonna have to disagree with you man. I don't think these guys are ........, except for a small minority. The guys who stand out as ....... I could name you almost by name to a man (of those's I met and some from reputation): Maladin to top the list. From the current GP grid: Nicky, Dovi, Bradl, Aoyama, Lorenzo, Bautista, Smith, Iannone, Edwards, AEspargaro, Petrucci, Hernandez. All these were very nice to me, and all I've ever read about them were good things about their personality.
Rossi, Marc & Pedrosa, were all nice to me when I met them too (though VR did hobble away and paid me no mind when I asked for an autograph, but I could actually understand). The ....... part for me comes from disregard to fellow competitors. Marc, as nice and go lucky as he seems, had simply put lots of careers and himself in questionable danger (though after he almost took out Pedro and Jlo, that talk somebody surely had with him has made him much more prudent, ie today's passes). Same goes with VR. Pedrosa, he is a special case for me. I really think he was an "......." as a man, though I will admit, I think most came from his manager and mentor. I bet he would be nicer if his coach wasn't telling him that getting ahead also included trying to .... over others with less clout, that meant Nicky. He couldn't with Stoner because the man was simply 2x as good, and Marc is 2x as good with the clout and full backing of the series. But just look at the times his character has been tested. Nicky days, Bridgestone debacle, chatter issues, all the times he has used his clout to whine and eventually get his way.
Btw, all those things you said, I don't see why that would make ........ or ignorants per se. Boning umbrella ....., how does that make anyone dumb. It would make me feel like a genius and a million bucks. President of Haiti is Bob Marley, right?
Jumkie
You could look at it this way Jum, they all went to Austin , the kid is on the best bike (that he has zero experience of) compared to the rest. he is on the best tyres (that he has zero experience of) he is on the best brakes (that he has zero experience of) and he still beat the .... out of them, if you honestly think there is anyone who could do what he has done this year i'd like to see it, lets be honest, last year he was a cheat, but Bradl is nowhere in comparison and Pol will be about the same as Stefan even on a full factory bike, face facts MM is a new level.
You could look at it this way Jum, they all went to Austin , the kid is on the best bike (that he has zero experience of) compared to the rest. he is on the best tyres (that he has zero experience of) he is on the best brakes (that he has zero experience of) and he still beat the .... out of them, if you honestly think there is anyone who could do what he has done this year i'd like to see it, lets be honest, last year he was a cheat, but Bradl is nowhere in comparison and Pol will be about the same as Stefan even on a full factory bike, face facts MM is a new level.
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