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A caravan on an island
Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2017
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Joined Apr 2015
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NJ
Your doing fine, keep it up
So do you actually come here to contribute anything of value about MotoGP?
Or do you just have an interest in consistently posting moronic post after moronic post?
Dani, what I'm going to tell you right now is me actually being serious. I give you as much grief as I do because you have never proven you can post seriously, or even intelligently for any stretch of time. I don't care if you are wrong if you are balancing it out with well-thought out posts. We all get .... wrong, big deal. I won't eat your lunch over that. I will eat your lunch when you insult not just my intelligence, but the intelligence of everyone on this forum with what you post.
I'm pretty much challenging you to make serious posts instead of fellating Vudu every chance you get. For example, when Sunday's race is over, make a legitimate post about your analysis of the race. Simple to do. I will actually have respect for that if you can string together a coherent post with supporting evidence for why you think whatever you think about something. Open challenge to you Dani. Do you have what it takes to make a well-thought out post, and well-reasoned post about the results of Sunday's Argentinian Grand Prix? Only you know that, but please try and do that. If you could do that and stop with the idiotic posts that make no reasonable counterpoint, you would actually see myself and others give you some respect. I challenged Vudu to do this, and he managed to do it for a few days before he resorted back to mentioning me in every other post and being a general troll.
The ball is in your court.
Good, we are making progress. Failure is the correct terminology.
The alternative to the delamination being a failure is that the the riders for whom the tyre didn't fail somehow knew what the delamination threshold was and avoided it, even though said delamination was unprecedented and occurred without any previous indication the tyre was wearing out or even not operating correctly. If you were watching the race with the motogp.com commentariat it certainly didn't occur to them that Lorenzo had reached a point of predictable tyre failure by delamination, it was assumed he had made a mystifying tactical error.
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A caravan on an island
Holy ...., that's just like one of those Facebook posts that says copy and paste if you care! Why the .... should I do a dissertation about a race that I have just enjoyed, I'm not going to, not my scene. I post stuff when I take exception to conspiracy .... that you and your buddies continually post ,as if it's going to affect anything but your own egos.
Perhaps we are back to 2011, and it is still not possible to make a Ducati into a Yamaha or ride one as you would a Yamaha.
Joined Apr 2015
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NJ
Who said anything about writing a dissertation?
I'm challenging you to post something that actually has some real substance behind it. But you've already rattled off a bunch of excuses for why you can't do this, and then make reference to other posters just like your buddy does.
But I'm glad you made this post since it puts it out there that you have no interest in any real meaningful discussion, and are bothered by what a number of us think about Rossi. It does beg the question of why you even post here since the regulars here are all far more interested in discussion of substance.
Joined Apr 2015
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NJ
Well we still have some more races to go before we should declare Ducati's season/bike lost.
In FP2, Lorenzo did not ever look comfortable on the bike. He was trying to back it into turn 4 at the end of the straight, but his corner speed looks anemic. I'm not giving up on him yet by any means. He is a triple world champion after all, and I respect his decision to go ride a bike that was such a far cry from the M1. We need to see what they can do to get the GP17 sorted, and then we need to see what the GP18 brings as that is going to be the first bike he has true input into for Ducati.
You take exception to what you consider to be "conspiracy ...." mostly by automatically crying conspiracy theory in the absence of much in the way of arguments, in defence of a rider who himself made huge unproven allegations of malfeasance by a competitor to the world press at large, which he has not withdrawn and in fact still continues to maintain. A few posters on an obscure internet forum forming a view with which you disagree is the bigger problem?. Sure.
The internet remains free, you and your "buddies" can obviously occupy such an internally inconsistent/contradictory position all you like, it is the frequent implication that you somehow occupy the intellectual and moral high ground by rejecting "conspiracy theories" with which I take issue.
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In Cider
Root Cause Analysis. Look it up. If the tyres were failing on various different bikes then the common denominator is?.........
Take your time.
Not sure if this will work but a small gif of Pedrosa's front brake disc showing a small piece of warp under acceleration
Ok, didn't work, can't post a GIF so will add the link
https://imgur.com/a/wIcyy
https://imgur.com/a/wIcyy
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NJ
He is picking Vinales to win the race.
I wonder how far Honda is from getting the electronics sorted out, or if we may see another lost season of sorts where they never fully come to grips with the electronics again. While I picked Marquez to win the title, and he still may very well do so, I have an inkling that may not happen since there seems to be a huge question mark with the electronics on the RCV. As usual he is getting that bike far ahead of the rest of the Honda riders.
A comparison of the sounds of the 2017 bikes - https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/850418854434033664
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Crab Key
Not sure if this will work but a small gif of Pedrosa's front brake disc showing a small piece of warp under acceleration
Ok, didn't work, can't post a GIF so will add the link
https://imgur.com/a/wIcyy
Dunno if that's warp or just the disks wobbling on the mounting pins as he hits the ripples. Next corner would be interesting with the amount of pad knockback that'd cause.
Circuit Information
LENGTH: 4.8 km / 2.99 miles
CORNERS: 5 left - 9 right
WIDTH: 16 m. / 52.49 ft.
LONGEST STRAIGHT: 1076 m. / 3530.18 ft.
Circuit Record:
1'39.019
Valentino ROSSI (ITA)
2015
168.4
Average Speed (km/h)
334.1
Top Speed (km/h)
Total distance: 120.2 km / 74.8 miles
A long time ago, on a racetrack far, far away....
PRIX WARS
Episode V: The Ducati Empire Strikes Back
It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Hammerhead Fairing was never used and is believed destroyed, Imperial Race Direction troops have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden garage and pursued them across the paddock.
Evading the dreaded Imperial Motorcyclefleet, a group of freedom riders led by Maverick Vinales has established a new secret base on the remote ice city of Rio Hondo.
The evil lord Darth Rider, obsessed with finding young Vinales, has dispatched thousands of remote probes into the far reaches of South America....
INTERIOR: An ice cavern filled with liquid ice. A group of figures dressed in warm furs huddle around a cluttered table. Above its surface flickers a holographic display of race result data.
Year Rider Position Rider Position Rider Position Rider Position 2016 Marc Marquez 1st Valentino Rossi 2nd Maverick Vinales DNF Jorge Lorenzo DNF 2015 Marc Marquez DNF Valentino Rossi 1st Maverick Vinales 10th Jorge Lorenzo 5th 2014 Marc Marquez 1st Valentino Rossi 4th Maverick Vinales n/a Jorge Lorenzo 3rd
Rossi: You see? The M1 is, ah, "good"? At this track. I have the two podiums and finish the 1 and 2. So I think we can be okay here.
Marc: (Leaning against the wall with a big grin) The M1 is okay, but the Millenium RC is going to be hard to beat. Forget the Kessel run, are you seeing the two first places? I got this.
Rossi: Don't underestimate the power of the Pace. It is, ah, the will to finish and persevere.
Marc: I'm not going to put my faith in that hokey nonsense.
Vinales: Is anybody going to explain why we're wearing winter jackets in freaking South America?
Marc: I wasn't using any mystical force in those races, and I'm sure not going to start now. And as for these aerodynamic tricks...
Vinales: No, really, it's effin' hot! What's the deal?
Rossi: The Pace runs through us all, even you Marques. If you understood that better, perhaps you wouldn't have crashed in '14.
Marc: Still beat you last year.
Vinales: (Under his breath) Eff you guys. I'm taking this off. There's a freaking river running through the room and girls in bikinis over in the grotto.
INTERIOR: Suddenly the cave is shaken as it comes under fire.
Marc: Race Direction has found us!
Rossi: I thought that we would be safe by hiding the aerodynamics in the side fairings. Quickly, we must escape.
Marc: I'm getting out in the Millenium RC. Mav, get out on track and hold them off. Wait, didn't Obi-wan die in the first movie?
Rossi: Well we skipped that scene and....
INTERIOR: Rossi is crushed by a falling boulder as the rest rush out. Darth Rider enters the room and surveys the damage as an engine fires. He enters a hidden garage surrounded by troops just as the Millenium RC races away.
EXTERIOR: Vinales sees the RC race away from the cockpit his M1 Wing fighter from another corner of the paddock. He is about to leave when a voice emerges from the darkness.
Darth Rider: The Pace is with you Vinales, but you're not a Champion yet.
Vinales: (Turns to face him and fires up his blue M1)
Darth Rider: (Ignites his sinister red Ducati).
EXTERIOR: The pair of riders race down pit lane and onto the track. The bikes clash into each other as they jostle for position.
Darth: You have learned much young one.
Vinales: You'll find I'm full of surprises. (Slams on the brakes at the last possible second, cuts up the inside and forces Lorenzo wide to the lead).
Darth: Rossi has taught you well. You can control your late braking. Now release the rear wheel. Only your dirt tracking skill will defeat me.
EXTERIOR: The pair clash again and again as they make their way around the track. Vinales' hand becomes pinched in the lever hard.
Vinales: Aaaargh! (Runs off track. Manages to save the lowslide and nurse the bike back)
Darth: Mav, you do not yet realize your importance. Join me at Ducati, and I will complete your training. I saw the way you lit up the rear tire in Qatar, forcing the bike to bend to your will. Together, with our combined strength on track, we can re-define the Desmocedici, end this destructive conflict and bring order to the paddock.
Vinales: I'll never join you!
Darth: If you only knew the power of the Dark Slide! Rossi never told you what happened to your predecessor at Yamaha.
Vinales: He told me enough. He told me you had him kicked out!
Darth: No. I AM YOUR PREDECESSOR.
Vinales: No... That's not true. Nobody would leave the M1 for the Desmocedici. That's impossible!
Darth: Search your heart. You know it's true.
Vinales: (Pauses) Noooooo!
EXTERIOR: Vinales leaps from his bike in despair. He is grabbed in mid-air by a passing rebel motorcycle transport that whisks him to safety.
Fantastic. "I am your predecessor".
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Santa Cruz, Cal
A small piece of warp? That looks huge to me. I can't even tell if it is warp or a loose rotor. Unbelievable for a million euro bike, in my opinion. At street speeds that would be spooky.
Meanwhile, some are still arguing about those f'ed up rain tires? Unbelievable.
Edit: And I can't make comments about the red heads, because this is a family channel, I think.
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NJ
I was thinking the same thing. The rotor seems to stop wobbling towards the end. Those rotors are meant to withstand the heat and not warp.
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