Joined Jun 2008
1K Posts | 365+
USA
That formula you speak of was before spec electronics & tires! Folks like you ..... about how unfair it was for others back then.
And how exactly the shirt guy is responsible for Maverick performance?
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If Rossi can address a problem with poor starts in his late 30s, I don’t see why Viñales can’t. I hold out no hope for him at Yamaha if he can’t, and he has had a more than adequate period of time to do so.
To add further to the aero discussion is the fact that if one is to ban or try to restrict aero, then one must include the riding gear as the helmet design and also the suit hump have both been termed as assisting aero over the years so any one who starts, will they be able to stop it.
His poor race craft along with his poor starts mean despite being the best at practising in the world he won't be able to turn that into consistent results. I said it at the start of the 2017 season and I still maintain, his inability to outrace his peers when he has a similar pace to them means he won't win a championship.
We go on about Rossi being a sunday man etc. But I would believe that it's better to qualify just inside the top 10 and make an excellent start and give yourself a good position going into t1 than qualifying on the front row dropping a bunch of places and being at others mercy going into t1.
This is where it gets difficult. Gigi seems to have basically designed something that does cool the rear tyre which he can prove does so, but is aerodynamic as well. They banned the winglets which i didn’t like anyway on safety grounds, but as I said earlier without thinking of the very salient point you make about the safety gear the riders wear can they really insist all such devices have to be aerodynamically null or negative, and will Aldridge be given a wind tunnel to test and police this ?.
I gather Petrucci is not in great favour for his perhaps disingenuous comment.
Joined Oct 2008
6K Posts | 5K+
In Cider
Joined Mar 2015
2K Posts | 337+
Chertsey, Surrey, UK
Wings, biplane style appendages, hollow boxes. Lots of names they could be called. Lets go back to the style of bike pre 2015.
Joined Mar 2015
2K Posts | 337+
Chertsey, Surrey, UK
I expect he's moaned and groaned at yamaha and they've done something. Vinales said there was something wrong with the bike in the race.
Joined Jun 2016
642 Posts | 244+
Santa Cruz, Cal
Can you imagine the advantage Rossi would get at the start, if there was more discretion. Paaa-leeeese.
The technology may already be there to determine a move without any opinion. How accurate is local gps? How much would 22 laser lights cost? Not much considering they could be used for all classes. Break the light before the start and it shuts off your bike. Just kidding about killing the bike.
Joined Mar 2015
2K Posts | 337+
Chertsey, Surrey, UK
I've watched the start about a dozen times and if Cal jumped it then there were 4 others as well imo, the 2 satellite Yamaha's, Miller and P. Asparagus. Yet they only penalised Cal.
Joined Mar 2016
2K Posts | 2K+
FNQ
It's on twitter. And really obvious. I don't think he gained anything, but rules are rules.
MotoGP (@MotoGP) Tweeted:
Here is the video from Race Direction showing Crutchlow’s jump start at the #ArgentinaGP
The explanation of how he was penalised for this can be found under article 1.18 section 14 of the rule book (see the tweet below for full description). https://t.co/1zWN2PG0pO https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1112501706582118402?s=17
Depends on how you read the rule (below)
And then when you see this video he clearly does not stop,
All of which means a rule breach.
Now, the question is whether the punishment fits the crime
I'd give them half a revolution of the front wheel tolerance but to prevent regular occurences I'd give them a 3 strikes and out for the season. Do it 3 times then you have to start the remainder of the year from the back of the grid.
All this talk about tolerance or leeway...
The rule is don't move before the lights go out, and the rule should remain that way. In fact I'd scrap the idea that if you move and stop then race direction can apply the penalty at their discretion.
Really we need to look at how people are punished as a ride through is ridiculously harsh.
But let's not complicate things. A black and white rule is fair for all. As soon as we allow interpretation then we invite bias.
The rule is don't move before the lights go out, and the rule should remain that way. In fact I'd scrap the idea that if you move and stop then race direction can apply the penalty at their discretion.
Really we need to look at how people are punished as a ride through is ridiculously harsh.
But let's not complicate things. A black and white rule is fair for all. As soon as we allow interpretation then we invite bias.
I don't think there's any real advantage to be gained unless you jump start like Sean Emmett did in a SBK race once where he gained about 3 bike lengths before the lights went out. Rolling forward by the length of a hamsters .... isn't going to make much difference in a 75 mile race.
