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In Moto2 vd Goorbergh has received a pit lane start. Arbolino is getting a 3 grid place penalty.

Arbolino reportedly ignored the instructions of the race marshal to take to the service road. He came to a complete stop in the narrow pit lane entry, and then waved the marshal on to a hot track to push him. He gets 3-place grid penalty for this?
 
In Moto2 vd Goorbergh has received a pit lane start. Arbolino is getting a 3 grid place penalty.

Arbolino reportedly ignored the instructions of the race marshal to take to the service road. He came to a complete stop in the narrow pit lane entry, and then waved the marshal on to a hot track to push him. He gets 3-place grid penalty for this?
I was hoping there would be more details. Goorbergh's penalty seems right. Tony's again I am not sure. I guess a 3 spot grid penalty isn't all that bad. But we see riders ignore marshals all the time without penalty. He ignored the marshal to take the service road but the marshal did not ignore him and came on track. Hmmm
 
I've caught up with MotoGP now, and will catch up with Moto3 qualifying when I can. Watching Moto2 Q1 now.

For MotoGP qualifying, Quartararo is putting that 10cm too wide bike in places where it shouldn't be. It's amazing to me that he can keep the motivation going so long. But, row 2 nothing to be sniffed at. And that save was amazing. Getting physical with the track.

MM93 (and Martin) looking much more human than before.

When was the last time Bastianini qualified 2nd or better? (Genuine question: I don't have it all stored away.)

To me, it's looking as if Bagnaia is the rider who has the speed without riding beyond himself. MM93 had already had quite a moment to warn him, but I don't remember seeing Martin being on the ragged edge before he went down.

That's the earliest I've seen a session described as 'over' - was it about 4 minutes to go?

Back to Moto2. Sergio Garcia is not looking 'back' to me. I still predict he will be top 4 in Q1, but he shouldn't be in Q1.

Not having seen the practice, I'm not sure what the incident with Ogura and the red flag is.
 
Look, I never intended to be offensive toward anyone. I only knew that word in a humorous and ironic context, I was not aware that it was perceived by anyone to be offensive.

And of course American fans who are knowledgeable about MotoGP are aware what the #1 means and that, should Jörg in fact be carrying next year, it wasn't the result of a title won on an Aprilia.
Someone who watches their first race and has only seen NASCAR before might not though.

I've been a member of this forum for almost a year and a half now, I always felt welcomed here, I enjoy the discussions on this site and I have zero reason or intention to cause conflict.
 
Ogura on pole. As said by the commentators he's not looking to cruise around, but as they just said now if it comes down to a fight with Canet second place will do fine.

Ogura has been reliable this year, with no retirements and only one DNS. With a few notable exceptions he doesn't tend to fall backwards.

Certainly this is looking very positive for Ogura here.

EDIT: Moto3 Q2 won't play for me on motogp.com, so I looked up the results.

Congratulations to the Australians here, with your countryman on pole.

Good results for Furusato (who often seems limited by qualifying) and Ogden, both of whom seem far closer to the front than I remember them being. I'm guessing (note: 'guessing') that this is Ogden's best qualifying ever. This may be due to the last lap situation with a number of riders not managing to start their intended last flying lap in time. But, that's not the fault of the riders who did well.

Alonso in 5th. As he's shown many times in the past, no problem in him winning from there.
 
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I've caught up with MotoGP now, and will catch up with Moto3 qualifying when I can. Watching Moto2 Q1 now.

For MotoGP qualifying, Quartararo is putting that 10cm too wide bike in places where it shouldn't be. It's amazing to me that he can keep the motivation going so long. But, row 2 nothing to be sniffed at. And that save was amazing. Getting physical with the track.

MM93 (and Martin) looking much more human than before.

When was the last time Bastianini qualified 2nd or better? (Genuine question: I don't have it all stored away.)

To me, it's looking as if Bagnaia is the rider who has the speed without riding beyond himself. MM93 had already had quite a moment to warn him, but I don't remember seeing Martin being on the ragged edge before he went down.

That's the earliest I've seen a session described as 'over' - was it about 4 minutes to go?

Back to Moto2. Sergio Garcia is not looking 'back' to me. I still predict he will be top 4 in Q1, but he shouldn't be in Q1.

Not having seen the practice, I'm not sure what the incident with Ogura and the red flag is.
Ogura road out of the pit lane against a red flag, at the end of practice. ,So they fined him 500Eurs.
 
Ogura road out of the pit lane against a red flag, at the end of practice. ,So they fined him 500Eurs.
Thank you. Ogura is not looking all that happy here, even with his pole. But, I'd think that 500Euros isn't enough to explain that.

Sprint Race up in a few minutes. Bagnaia may not be too concerned about a 20 point deficit to Martin, but he's got to start beating Martin.
 
Please stay upright Pedro. EDIT: Oh no, not again.

EDIT: Am I in the wrong thread? Where is everyone?

EDIT: The GP24s and Marquez are gapping the field, and I don't see anyone crossing that.
 
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I don't get why going to the blue doesn't count as going off-track? Jorge went two (three?) times out on the green and two times on the blue section (although his first time was understandable). I mean, great result for him if it sticks, but I think he should be demoted.

The GP23 had nothing against the GP24s. And now even if Pecco wins every race left, Jorge can win the championship by just finishing behind him. Blistering pace by Enea, last time he won the sprint we know what he did the next day.
 
I don't get why going to the blue doesn't count as going off-track? Jorge went two (three?) times out on the green and two times on the blue section (although his first time was understandable). I mean, great result for him if it sticks, but I think he should be demoted.

The GP23 had nothing against the GP24s. And now even if Pecco wins every race left, Jorge can win the championship by just finishing behind him. Blistering pace by Enea, last time he won the sprint we know what he did the next day.
It looked like he got away with one anyway. The one where it looked like his team was pretty sure he went over the limits.
 
Great to see Quartararo in P6
Well it didn't last in the sprint with all Ducatis in the Top 8.
Jörg could now win the championship by just finishing one spot behind Frantisek in every remaining race but I doubt he will.
Finishing ahead of him despite near-disaster in Turn 1 is a major achievement.

Hofmann said KTM should offer a bonus to Acosta for finishing 5th for the rest of the season. Sounds like a smart idea.
 
I don't get why going to the blue doesn't count as going off-track? Jorge went two (three?) times out on the green and two times on the blue section (although his first time was understandable). I mean, great result for him if it sticks, but I think he should be demoted.
I think it's only the green that counts as a violation.
And only the light green, not the Petronas green.

The sensors are triggered automatically so I wouldn't expect any change to the result.
 
I think it's only the green that counts as a violation.
And only the light green, not the Petronas green.

The sensors are triggered automatically so I wouldn't expect any change to the result.
Yes, I've just read that they don't consider the blue to be in violation because it's considered that the rider loses time by going to the blue, although I think it's not necessarily the case like in Jorge's second blue incursion. But anyway, the result is the result and it stands.

Pecco will have to risk it for the rest of the championship methinks, unless he's just waiting for Jorge to make a mistake that might not come. Risky strategy both ways.
 

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