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So, the championship keeps going and we get back to back races in consecutive weekends. Will Marc win Ducati's 93rd victory in the premier class? Or will Pecco make it a 3rd consecutive victory on Mugello? speaking of which, Ducati will be wearing blue this GP:

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I expect nothing but total Ducati domination here going by the results of the past years. Can Acosta or any of the Aprilias have an outside chance? Maybe Quartararo can surprise in a circuit he likes?
 
The only prediction I am willing to make is that a Ducati will win both the sprint and the main event.

I do not however think it will be MM in either race, but would be gladly proven wrong on that.

I have a feeling it's going to be a Ducati battle between Martin and Bagnaia and if the speed trap record (227.5MPH by Brad Binder) were to be broken, it'll likely be on the GP24. That being said, I fully expect Acosta to be running with the front group here. I think the KTM should prove to be fast enough down the main straight that he shouldn't lose too much ground to the Ducati's. I could see him getting in trouble though braking for turn 1 because he's probably going to be trying to make up a lot of time there, so a crash may happen. The Aprilias are going to be interesting to watch. I feel the sweeping curves of Mugello are well suited to the RS-GP.

I just hope Michelin brings their 'A' game tires. With guys doing over 220MPH, we don't need dodgy tires.
 
MichaelBolton said:
So, the championship keeps going and we get back to back races in consecutive weekends. Will Marc win Ducati's 93rd victory in the premier class? Or will Pecco make it a 3rd consecutive victory on Mugello? speaking of which, Ducati will be wearing blue this GP:

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I expect nothing but total Ducati domination here going by the results of the past years. Can Acosta or any of the Aprilias have an outside chance? Maybe Quartararo can surprise in a circuit he likes?
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Lenova Ducati switch to Yamaha for 2025 :)

Last years results;
1. Bagnaia
2. Martin
3. Zarco
4. Marini
Then we got the non-Ducati's
5. Binder 8.9 seconds
6. Esparargo 10.9 seconds
7. Miller 11 seconds

Ducati victory prediction brought to you by Captain Obvious
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DavidSim said:
I'd settle for Miller just staying upright for the distance !
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The end finally came for Jack Miller in my opinion. I think he gave up because he knew he'd never keep his seat once we saw what Acosta could do on the same bike. I think it's got to be rather demoralizing to watch a rookie so far in front of you on the same bike. While Pedro is a special talent, I don't think it makes it any less fun to watch happen especially when you know that's your replacement, and you can't put up even a little bit of a fight.
 
Look Eeyore, Jack is leading!
It doesn't matter Piglet.
Well, he could win!
No. No he couldn't.
Bu bu but, but why not?
He'll fade after the first half of the race, just like he always does. You'll see.
 
techDmn said:
Look Eeyore, Jack is leading!
It doesn't matter Piglet.
Well, he could win!
No. No he couldn't.
Bu bu but, but why not?
He'll fade after the first half of the race, just like he always does. You'll see.
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The strange case of Jack Miller.

He was never truly elite, but was certainly better than he has been in recent seasons, and was good in the rain, usually a sign of riding talent.

Like many things in MotoGP I suspect it comes down to tyres, he just can’t ride the current Michelins, for more than a few laps anyway.
 
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For me Miller are Morbidelli are sort of in the same boat: Riders I like and want to do well, but it just hasn't come together for them and I can't really get excited about it anymore.

The strange thing to me about Miller is that he tends to go backward in the second half, REGARDLESS of the length of the race. I really thought sprints were tailor made for him, but no.

Morbidelli has both lost his speed AND seems to have developed a habit of crashing into other riders. Shame. He was a hero to under-emoters everywhere! But no more.
 
techDmn said:
The strange thing to me about Miller is that he tends to go backward in the second half, REGARDLESS of the length of the race. I really thought sprints were tailor made for him, but no.
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Could it be that he's just not fit enough (body and soul) to go the distance anymore at full blast, or that he's now a family man (married with a child) with so much more to lose !

Many of the top runners these days are still single. Coincidence ? I think not !
 
The problem is that, Jacks body doesn't fit the bike. As he said on Crash, he is trying to get right down off the seat for the long corners like Pedro, but as he slides across his tremendous balls get jammed on the edge of the seat, holding him back.

They need to do a ‘Lorenzo’ modification to the seat, cut a big scoop out the edge so he can slide across while protecting the jewels.
 
DavidSim said:
Could it be that he's just not fit enough (body and soul) to go the distance anymore at full blast, or that he's now a family man (married with a child) with so much more to lose !

Many of the top runners these days are still single. Coincidence ? I think not !
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Most of the top riders are pretty young and have a shitload of money. I think they're happy not having kids 'weigh them down' so to speak. To be an elite athlete you do need to be selfish as ..... Yes, there is a lot of amazing pro athletes with kids but I would hazard a guess based on anecdotal evidence only, that their relationship with those kids is not always that good because they don't prioritize their time for their kids in the same way many others do.

So being a family man, may be detrimental to your riding results but I think it is because of their lack of selfishness rather than having more to lose. I don't think that is even a thought in any riders head, if it was they would probably be doing a different sport.
 
www.crash.net

Exclusive: Fabio Quartararo ‘drove 800km’ to quiz Bartolini on Ducati

Max Bartolini a ‘big factor’ in Fabio Quartararo re-signing for Yamaha - drove 800km to quiz the Italian about Ducati: ‘All the questions you’re thinking, I asked!’
www.crash.net www.crash.net

Interesting to read even if it sounds like we used to hear for two years now... I find Fabio's analysis is quite objective.
Let's see if Yamaha and him can do something good this Sunday after testing there few days ago...
 
This is a real beauty of a track, with a gorgeous countryside to boot. The speed and noise when the bikes come round Bucine and head into San Donato is glorious!

The logistics of getting to and from the track, if you don't sleep in the hillside, is a nightmare. It took me three hours to get to, as the bus going from the underdimensioned train station didn't bother stopping near the track, while the so-called shuttle bus simply didn't bother to show up when we wanted to get home....

Next time round, I'll go by bike/scooter.

Will anyone be able to put some pressure on the top Ducatis, or will the pressure they put on themselves be enough for someone else to sneak onto the podium?
 
I'll second that this is a beauty of a track, one of the very best in the world. I attended one race here and it was a glorious day, there is not a bad seat in the house and the atmosphere is awesome. It's the one track I'd consider going to again. I'm afraid the logistics of getting to most places have become onerous and the fact is I can see more of the racing on the screen. Nothing like being in Italy for a GP though!

I hope the weather is good! Well, we know all the Italian bikes are good and all the riders will be motivated so my prediction is: it will be a good race......
 
So after the first round of practices, Viñales tops with Quartararo second and Morbidelli third. Lin Jarvis probably likes that line up more than most. Vindicates his eye for a rider, somewhat. Rins inside the top ten also a good sign.

Oliveira, the VR lads, Bastianini and Augusto Fernandez all struggling to some degree.

Aldeguer on fire in Moto2, Alonso in Moto3.
 
Rins with a brilliant ride for P2. Quatararo would be there too but track limits did him in. Is Yamaha turning things around? Both Gresini boys in Q2 and once again, the top KTM...and only KTM in Q2...is Pedro after 2 crashes on the day. Finding the limits a la Marc? I had written off The Beast but he delivered in the end. Pecco the only rider in the 44s. Impressive. And out of nowhere, Olivera is 4th.
 
I only saw the last 8 minutes of FP2 but you knew Pecco was on a real flyer before he even hit the end of the first sector. Really magnificent lap from him, would like to see the onboard of it. He did a hell of a job on not new tires to pull a sub 45 out.

Marc finally stepped it up to avoid Q1 thankfully. So the question is going to be how does qualifying go tomorrow? I can see him in the first 5 spots depending on how things shake out or if he manages to get a good slipstream coming out of the final corner because he was the fastest rider through sector 4 in FP2. He's still leaving time on the table in the other sectors. Maybe he'll put it altogether in Q2.

Rins was impressive, did not see that coming, but I'm going to wait and see what tomorrow brings for Rins and Yamaha. I'm not quite convinced at the moment that they even have that type of pace for a GP race distance. And times may come down further tomorrow.

The sprint race is going to be fascinating.
 
These practice times are intriguing. Unfortunately, I’m not in a situation where I can watch practice, but Rins in 2nd and Oliveira as the top Aprilia are interesting results!

It’s no secret that I would like for the championship to tighten up, but hopefully Martin will stay in a good headspace. Though I rate Pecco highly and believe his championships were earned, it’s possible to make the argument that his opponents have blundered their way to making him a 2-time champion, particularly if you’re analyzing 2022. Martin needs to be a legitimate contender, along with Marc for the entire season. No more public bluster and outlandish mistakes when the heat is turned up.

Paging Red Bull KTM. Has anyone seen KTM?
 

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