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Who will be the 2009 champion and runners up?

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Get your predictions in now. (If you’ve got balls, otherwise just predict this years results)

Taking a realist view on the prospects of next years championship and how it will end I like to make the predictions way in advance. Not to say that the season is over yet as I’m still enjoying every minute of it irrespective of weather the winner of the championship will be announced soon or not. Also we’re not sure yet of all the riders that are going to take part but I think this will have little effect on the top spots.

My feeling is that it is going to be close and I hope we’re in for a good season.

Rossi will keep the pressure on Yamaha and with his clout may just keep the team on their toes. He will also be aware of Jorge’s progression and will be privy to what is happening on that side of the garage, although I don’t think it will play a major roll. It might if things start to get really close. Yamaha have closed the gap to Ducati and I think that they may just start the season with a slight advantage. Jorge, baring any injuries is going to be a tough competitor and seems to have come to terms with the 800 cc even in the wet. He has been humbled by this class and he seems to have more respect for the bike now which has made him a much nicer guy.

Casey is going to be right up there and is going to be tough to beat. He will be swoping paint and it will make him double aggressive to see two yams ahead at times. It will be a bit different to what he is used to, although we will still see the run away victory from time to time. I still think that we are going to see a different rider next year.

Daniel will be on the appointed year to take the title. He will have to go for the win or perhaps take the consequences. HRC, hero now loser to-morrow. HRC are difficult to predict and they may just control Andrea to be behind Daniel. Personally I would like to see him ahead of Daniel, But HRC you know.

Between these guys its any ones championship and I hope its close.

James is putting a lot of pressure on the team already saying that he is much better than the result he has shown to date and a boot up the backside might just get things working better. He will have the added advantage of not having Collin to couch him around the tracks any more and I think that he has decided that the learning curve is over and now its C for serious. Now Collin can follow him around for the fist few laps.

Nicky is the wild card here. Hell if he clicks with the Duc he could just take it to the front runners. Realistically he still has to adapt to a proper sized bike running on the stones with a lot of power. Really hope he doesn’t go the route of Malandri. He definitely will have most of us on the edge of our seat when ahead of the Hondas.

Collin will benefit from the work that James does and will be on a good bike. If he gets to the gym, well who knows, it may just stop him from going backwards. He might just get a little pissed to see James ahead though.

My prediction for 2009 is as follows.
Note: And it’s not the order of my favorite riders. (Although junkie might think otherwise)


Pos Rider Bike
1 Valentino Rossi
Yamaha
2 Jorge Lorenzo
Yamaha
3 Casey Stoner
Ducati
4 Daniel Pedrosa
Honda
5 Andrea Dovizioso
Honda
6 James Toseland
Yamaha
7 Nicky Hayden
Ducati
8 Colin Edwards
Yamaha
9 Toni Elías
Ducati
10 Alex de Angelis
Honda
11 Shinya Nakano
Honda
12 Chris Vermeulen
Suzuki
13 Marco Melandri
Kawasaki
14 Loris Capirossi
Suzuki
15 Randy de Puniet
Honda
16 Sylvain Guintoli
Ducati
17 John Hopkins
Kawasaki

Anthony West
Kawasaki
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 20 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi or Dani i think.

What wrong Tom? Not feeling very talkative. Come on balls on the block 1 st 2 nd and 3rd.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Sep 20 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What wrong Tom? Not feeling very talkative. Come on balls on the block 1 st 2 nd and 3rd.
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Predictions at this point come totally from the heart. A lot can and will change, and as pre-season progresses evidence to justify actual predictions will become apparent. At this point i feel like i'm still unconcinced of Ducati's long term competativeness, and i feel that Yamaha really are the best rider/team/bike package in the world. Here and now i expect both of them to be in the top 3 overall, with Rossi ahead. Dani is the question mark, as i said predictions come from the heart and i think Dani can and will do it. I even think that having Hayden out of the garage could benefit Dani.

Rossi
Dani
Jorge
 
Still think Yam need more power....Duke and Honda have adv down the straightaway, although yam very handy when leaned over. Bike development in off season will be interesting, as no need for yam to take any risks with new engine parts for example right now.

Heart says -

1 Rossi
2 Jorge
3 Toseland
4 Hayden

Head say -

1 Rossi/Stoner
2 Rossi/Stoner
3 Jorge
4 Daninomatespuigcocksucker Pedrowankstainarsepiecebot

I can't help but sit on the fence re 1 and 2, the bit I am dying to see is how Nicky goes on a Duc. I think, and hope, his style and the bike fit like a glove. Like the fingers of two hands interlinking, as vale described Casey's relationship with the Duc

Peace out.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 20 2008, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Predictions at this point come totally from the heart. A lot can and will change, and as pre-season progresses evidence to justify actual predictions will become apparent. At this point i feel like i'm still unconcinced of Ducati's long term competativeness, and i feel that Yamaha really are the best rider/team/bike package in the world. Here and now i expect both of them to be in the top 3 overall, with Rossi ahead. Dani is the question mark, as i said predictions come from the heart and i think Dani can and will do it. I even think that having Hayden out of the garage could benefit Dani.

Rossi
Dani
Jorge

Well done Tom. You took the plunge. That’s what it’s all about “from the heart” isn’t it. I mean if you could accurately predict the future you would be making millions on a daily basis somewhere else, wouldn’t you? I promise you won’t get shot if you’re wrong but people may want to pay you if you’re right.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Sep 20 2008, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well done Tom. You took the plunge. That’s what it’s all about “from the heart” isn’t it. I mean if you could accurately predict the future you would be making millions on a daily basis somewhere else, wouldn’t you? I promise you won’t get shot if you’re wrong but people may want to pay you if you’re right.

haha, yea. The predictions are liable to change at any time though, especially as evidence mounts for or agaisnt them.
 
Breakdown of my top 3.

2009 MotoGP World Champion: Valentino Rossi

Why he will win the title: Stoner has a new teammate who is just as fast and competitive, if not more than he is. Rossi will bounce on that, like he has done before and will take the title. He has the bike, the drive to still fight for a championship. He doesn't let others get into his head like Casey and Dani Pedrosa have. 2009 is The Doctor's last shot at a World Championship in MotoGP, and he will take it.

2009 MotoGP Championship Runner-up: Nicky Hayden.

Why he will finish runner up: He is the same rider as Casey Stoner, his teammate, but he has one thing going for him. He needs to prove to everyone, 2006 was not a fluke. He will go out and run Rossi wire to wire. He will have much of the preseason to himself with Stoner out, which will give him time with the engineers and personal with the team, as well as his bike. His consistancy that won him the 2006 title will be present, and he will not only overtake his phenom teammate, but will take runner up in the championship.

2009 MotoGP Championship 3rd Place Contender: Casey Stoner.

Why he will finish 3rd: He has the it bike, the talent, and a new teammate to push himself. But that should also hurt the timid Stoner, who showed late in 2008 that when the pressure starts, he can't keep upright. That should keep the Australian down from the top two spots on the podium at the end of next season.


Honorable Mention:

Jorge Lorenzo: He is the next MotoGP Superstar, but I feel his injury plagued 2008 could set him back. He might need time to test how far to push the bike. He has the talent and abilities to challenge his teammate Rossi for the title, but he must remain healthy and ride smart. I think he needs another season to figure himself out before he makes a real push for the top spot on the podium.

Dani Pedrosa: In a perfect world, Dani would be on a horse at the Kentucky Derby and not on the back of a Honda RC212V. I think he has the talent to win a title, but what will fail is his talent. There is enough riding ability to challenge week in and week out, but he must be on the front row to do so. Dani Pedrosa is not the perfect rider. He cannot start 7th and challenge for a win. He needs the weekend to start great to challenge, and next year with two Ducati's, four Yamaha's, and the Honda's of Elias and Pedro's possibly new teammate in Andrea Dovizoso, that is a lot of talent to get to the front.

Andrea Dovizioso: Not sure still yet with what team he will ride with, but if he is selected by HRC to run a factory Honda, he will be a top rider to challenge the likes of Rossi and Stoner. But even then, it will not be enough to take him over that. Honda has been on hard times since losing Rossi and Burgess, and they have yet to come back. And fearing that he could be another Nicky Hayden, Dovizoso is still not sold on the factory Honda seat for 2009.

Toni Elias: Yes, you are reading this right. Toni Elias on a satellite Honda a title contender? You bet. He has the talent and has a victory and podiums on a Alice Ducati to prove it. But how will Honda handle him at Gresini? I have never seen Honda rehire a rider for whom they have let go, so Elias is treading new water. Was his podiums just a bit of luck, or do they show true speed? We will have to see, but from what I have seen from Toni, do not count him out for podiums.
 
Since Jorge came into 125's I have had a long standing bet with a mate that he would be 2009 motogp champ. Don't feel quite so convinced at the mo though!

Bet with mate says:

1st Jorge

2nd Vale

3rd Nicky

Realistically..

1st Vale

2nd Casey

3rd Jorge

Little side bet maybe.....Scott Redding to win 125's?
 
Where still in September '08 and this guy is already asking us what is going to be the results in November '09...

The grid isn't complete still... Most teams haven't started testing for 2009. No one knows what will happen. Teams will improve more than others... It's too soon to predict anything. We still don't know who's going to be 2nd this year why concentrate in next year?
 
Lineups aren't even sorted and you've already started this thread???
Rossi not to win in 2009 is my only prediction so far.
 
[quote name='Hayden Fan' date='Sep 20 2008, 09:17 PM' post='154698']
Breakdown of my top 3.

Great post Hayden Fan. That’s the kind of stuff that gets the grey matter working. Very interesting perspective and can’t fault your though process. More posts like yours with different perspectives could make for a very interesting thread.
 
Well, most the top teams are known. Unless Spies gets a ride, then I might need to add him to the Honorable Mention. I mentioned about Dovizoso in my post. It is pretty much set up for the next season. Mika Kallio, if he gets MotoGP seat is not a title contender for 2009. If Aspar gets a Kawasaki for the season, that team has a zero title chance, as the factory team does not either.

We know who will contend. I didn't make any bold predictions, but from my knowledge from watching this past season. I made really zero speculations, other than Hayden. I am in the group who thinks he will take advantage of Stoner out for testing and will do extremely well on the Duck. I am also in the group that thinks Lorenzo, while talented, could be an injury prone rider. Staying healthy next year should be his goal.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Sep 20 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lineups aren't even sorted and you've already started this thread???
Rossi not to win in 2009 is my only prediction so far.


Come on Sun, you disappoint me a little. Lighten up a bit. Sure the line up hasn’t been decided yet but do you really think that it will affect the out come of the top three places. Surely you found Haden Fans post interesting and isn’t that what it’s all about. With your great sense of humor and your knowledge of the sport you could make a valuable contribution here. OK so you don’t think Rossi is going to take it next year, so tell us who you think it will be and tell us why. Maybe you’re having a .... day today so make a prediction some other time. Only don’t do it in the middle of next season though.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMaster170 @ Sep 20 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where still in September '08 and this guy is already asking us what is going to be the results in November '09...

The grid isn't complete still... Most teams haven't started testing for 2009. No one knows what will happen. Teams will improve more than others... It's too soon to predict anything. We still don't know who's going to be 2nd this year why concentrate in next year?



Relax man its just for ..... and kicks
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