Sachsenring race!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 23 2009, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lol because he picked his bike up out of a gravel trap. First the gravel is not the same everywhere, and depending how the bike is laying in it, it could be easier or harder to get the bike out of the gravel. Also Casey's lower center of gravity would make it easier to get the bike upright on his own. And please he over trained? Do you know how stupid that sounds? When? When he was laid up with the scaphoid or while he is taking it easy due to his illness? Beside I am sure he would have his own personal trainer to make sure he wasn't "over training." Try a new theory cause that on is .....

This is just ignorant. I've seen 200lb guys in good shape - struggle to pick up a tipped over
bike in their driveway. Doing it in a sliding gravel trap, after 30 laps at Laguna in 100 degree
heat is nothing short of nightmare. I used to do endurance races with Reverend Jim Racing
in the early '80s. I've tried uprighting a bike in the trap and failed. Why do you think it takes
as many as 3 corner marshalls to get a crashed bike off the track?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 23 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My understanding is that these guys get fairly extreme heart rate responses, can dehydrate significantly during races etc. I am also led to believe rossi does little training, but his heart rate probably doesn't go above a hundred for anything.

Except Uccio.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 23 2009, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is just ignorant. I've seen 200lb guys in good shape - struggle to pick up a tipped over
bike in their driveway. Doing it in a sliding gravel trap, after 30 laps at Laguna in 100 degree
heat is nothing short of nightmare. I used to do endurance races with Reverend Jim Racing
in the early '80s. I've tried uprighting a bike in the trap and failed. Why do you think it takes
as many as 3 corner marshalls to get a crashed bike off the track?
Doesn't that just prove my point that it depends how the bike is laying? I have picked up many a bike in my day and sometimes I needed help, and sometimes I didn't.

Hooray Casey, you picked your bike up out of a gravel trap! Why you must be as strong as three corner marshalls.

Why would it take three corner marshalls to pick up a bike? Because they are dragging it through the gravel back rear wheel in the air, fairings dangling. They are not trying to restart it and hurry back on the track. Could you imagine how stupid they would look if they only sent one dude and he sat there struggling. I am sure dorna has a rule in place, I am not a corner marshall, I don't know.


Nice Uccio blast by the way.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 23 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Doesn't that just prove my point that it depends how the bike is laying? I have picked up many a bike in my day and sometimes I needed help, and sometimes I didn't.

Hooray Casey, you picked your bike up out of a gravel trap! Why you must be as strong as three corner marshalls.

Why would it take three corner marshalls to pick up a bike? Because they are dragging it through the gravel back rear wheel in the air, fairings dangling. They are not trying to restart it and hurry back on the track. Could you imagine how stupid they would look if they only sent one dude and he sat there struggling. I am sure dorna has a rule in place, I am not a corner marshall, I don't know.


Nice Uccio blast by the way.

Can't speak to corner marshall rules in Europe - but my ex wife was a corner marshall here in the
States and if for no other reason - they work three at time because they don't want to exhaust themselves and also for the sake of speed. Re: angle of bike - this is true. One time during a practice session in the rain - I went down in the same corner three times in one session and each time I was able to pick up the bike and get back on the track no problem. But I was on reasonably solid ground and the air temperature was only in the high 60s.

To do it in a gravel trap after 30 laps in brutal heat - is no mean feat. Trust me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jul 22 2009, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Out of interest (oh god will this be flamed)

But if Ducati/Bridgestone got it right in 2007, did Yamaha/Bridgestone get it right in 2008?

Garry

Yes of course… thanks to Burgues and Rossi!

Because anything before 2004 for 10 years or so… no, Yamaha did not get it right

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vibe @ Jul 23 2009, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fcuk - not only does Rossi get special identifiable tires - only one, one special set that had no markings conveniently supplied to him - but now he has to respond to reports that Lorenzo's bike in inferior -

Rossi also denied Lorenzo did not get the same bike upgrades as him.

"That's not true, the bikes are identical," he told Gazzetta dello Sport. "In any case, it's normal that I have with Yamaha a relationship he doesn't have: when I arrived in 2004 I found a bike that hadn't won for 12 years and it was crap.

"Now we have the best bike. Lorenzo can't pretend to arrive, win, and in two years be as important as Valentino."

He added: "It's easy to be in his conditions: he fights against Valentino Rossi, one of the strongest riders ever, so he goes for it and if he loses he tries again. Meanwhile, this year we are 6-3 in my favour. Good, I like that. He's a tough nut with enormous talent."



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77094

It's funny how when Rossi opens his big mouth and says stupid and controversial things like this, the Rossi fanatics try and sweep it under the rug real quick by not responding to it and going off topic. What an arrogant little ....... Rossi is talking about himself in 3rd person, to me it feels like Lorenzo is deffinately getting under his skin thus using his name in 3rd person as if to make himself feel superior. If Casey Stoner was to even say half of what Rossi is saying here, the Rossi fanboys would probably be at Stoner's front yard with pitchforks.... but since Rossi said it, it's ok, right? What a joke you crazy Rossi fans are.

Man oh man I want Lorenzo to win the championship this year and move on to a new Manufacturer just to piss Rossi off and not give him the chance to get his revenge on the same equipment. But if Rossi is to win this year, I hope Lorenzo stays at Yamaha and give it another try.

I got to say though, it's good to hear him lash out like this... shows that Lorenzo is getting into his head. Go Jorge !!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Jul 23 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's funny how when Rossi opens his big mouth and says stupid and controversial things like this, the Rossi fanatics try and sweep it under the rug real quick by not responding to it and going off topic. What an arrogant little ....... Rossi is talking about himself in 3rd person, to me it feels like Lorenzo is deffinately getting under his skin thus using his name in 3rd person as if to make himself feel superior. If Casey Stoner was to even say half of what Rossi is saying here, the Rossi fanboys would probably be at Stoner's front yard with pitchforks.... but since Rossi said it, it's ok, right? What a joke you crazy Rossi fans are.

Man oh man I want Lorenzo to win the championship this year and move on to a new Manufacturer just to piss Rossi off and not give him the chance to get his revenge on the same equipment. But if Rossi is to win this year, I hope Lorenzo stays at Yamaha and give it another try.

I got to say though, it's good to hear him lash out like this... shows that Lorenzo is getting into his head. Go Jorge !!!
Isn't it funny? I think that Rossi no matter what will always have those fans who could give a .... what he says, they will just come to his aid even if he was caught red handed at doing something so bad. I hope jorge beats him in points but of course I want Stoner to win the WC. It would be really great especially since his season has had some weird things such as this health issue and scafoid problem. So we shall see, the season has been a cracker so far. At least no one is running away with it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 23 2009, 06:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lol because he picked his bike up out of a gravel trap. First the gravel is not the same everywhere, and depending how the bike is laying in it, it could be easier or harder to get the bike out of the gravel. Also Casey's lower center of gravity would make it easier to get the bike upright on his own. And please he over trained? Do you know how stupid that sounds? When? When he was laid up with the scaphoid or while he is taking it easy due to his illness? Beside I am sure he would have his own personal trainer to make sure he wasn't "over training." Try a new theory cause that on is .....

What michaelm and I are saying makes sense.

Casey Stoner's surgical bone grafts were NOT as successful as hoped. In order to reduce the forces on his wrist under braking, he decided to try to drop another 1-2kg (body mass he doesn't have to lose). I think it is more likely that Stoner has run himself into the ground with intense training and dieting.

The events of this season support our account. Casey started off extremely strong during a time when his fitness due to injury would have been most questionable. At Motegi and Jerez, Stoner realized that the season wasn't going to be a cake walk. Throughout the beginning of the season; though, word began to leak out that his wrist hadn't properly healed. Under these circumstances it would make more sense for him to overwork himself.

The results from Dr. Ting's tests are of course the most compelling pieces of evidence---anemia and gastritis.

I've personally dealt with this before when I played baseball (very competitively) in high school. I saw a sports physician way before I experienced Stoner-like symptoms. I was diagnosed with mild gastritis (which the doctor said was likely causing anemic like symptoms). The doctor asked me if I took a lot of aspirin (a very common ingredient in any stack) or if I used pain medication. I answered "no" to both even though I was taking a lot of aspirin b/c I don't like the doctor's office and I didn't want a lecture. I didn't change anything but the symptoms subsided. I have since learned that intestinal hypersensitivity to aspirin is a genetic trait that was passed to me by my grandfather (he's not allowed to use aspirin for anything, not even to prevent clotting after a recent surgery).

It is easy for a minor nutritional problem to spiral out of hand; especially when you train as hard as world class motogp riders.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 23 2009, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Doesn't that just prove my point that it depends how the bike is laying? I have picked up many a bike in my day and sometimes I needed help, and sometimes I didn't.

Hooray Casey, you picked your bike up out of a gravel trap! Why you must be as strong as three corner marshalls.

Why would it take three corner marshalls to pick up a bike? Because they are dragging it through the gravel back rear wheel in the air, fairings dangling. They are not trying to restart it and hurry back on the track. Could you imagine how stupid they would look if they only sent one dude and he sat there struggling. I am sure dorna has a rule in place, I am not a corner marshall, I don't know.


Nice Uccio blast by the way.


I once pulled into a very busy petrol/gas station on my Goldwing for some juice. Being very aware of the attention I was attracting from most people around at the time I got off the bike at the pump, absorbed in the limelight. Half way off, the bike and I fell to the ground. I had forgotten to put the side stand down. In an instant I jumped up and picked the bike up and put the side stand down.

Since then I have on numerous occasions with friends purposely and gently put the bike on its side and I have never been able to even budge the bike. It has always taken two to three guys to pick it up.

Sooooooo being able to pick a bike up at any given time may not always be down to brute strength.

Amazing how strong you get when making an arse of yourself.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Jul 23 2009, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I once pulled into a very busy petrol/gas station on my Goldwing for some juice. Being very aware of the attention I was attracting from most people around at the time I got off the bike at the pump, absorbed in the limelight. Half way off, the bike and I fell to the ground. I had forgotten to put the side stand down. In an instant I jumped up and picked the bike up and put the side stand down.

Since then I have on numerous occasions with friends purposely and gently put the bike on its side and I have never been able to even budge the bike. It has always taken two to three guys to pick it up.

Sooooooo being able to pick a bike up at any given time may not always be down to brute strength.

Amazing how strong you get when making an arse of yourself.

I don't believe you..... first of all, Goldwings never tip over, they are basically cars. Second of all, Goldwing weighs about a ton and a half and even SuperMan wouldn't be able to stand it upright after a fall. J/k by the way.

Nice bike though, what year Goldwing?

Everything Rossi said in your quotes are true. There isn'y any false word.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Jul 23 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's funny how when Rossi opens his big mouth and says stupid and controversial things like this, the Rossi fanatics try and sweep it under the rug real quick by not responding to it and going off topic. What an arrogant little ....... Rossi is talking about himself in 3rd person, to me it feels like Lorenzo is deffinately getting under his skin thus using his name in 3rd person as if to make himself feel superior. If Casey Stoner was to even say half of what Rossi is saying here, the Rossi fanboys would probably be at Stoner's front yard with pitchforks.... but since Rossi said it, it's ok, right? What a joke you crazy Rossi fans are.

Man oh man I want Lorenzo to win the championship this year and move on to a new Manufacturer just to piss Rossi off and not give him the chance to get his revenge on the same equipment. But if Rossi is to win this year, I hope Lorenzo stays at Yamaha and give it another try.

I got to say though, it's good to hear him lash out like this... shows that Lorenzo is getting into his head. Go Jorge !!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Jul 23 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't believe you..... first of all, Goldwings never tip over, they are basically cars. Second of all, Goldwing weighs about a ton and a half and even SuperMan wouldn't be able to stand it upright after a fall. J/k by the way.

Nice bike though, what year Goldwing?


You first point I don’t understand. I can guarantee that if you get off a goldwing without using the stand it will fall on its side. It only has two wheels.

The bike weighs 340 Kg.

That bike was a 1983 1100cc.

That was the first and only time I ever dropped that bike.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vibe @ Jul 23 2009, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>At least there is no wall between Stoner and Haden, but there appears to be a few disappointed Haden fans that choose to attack Stoner so as to feel good about the current finishing down the order predicament. Haden requires more time than most

Who? Explain.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 23 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is easy for a minor nutritional problem to spiral out of hand; especially when you train as hard as world class motogp riders.
No, it is easier for a lazy world class motogp rider to have nutritional problems than one who trains. Geez you guys act like he trains like someone doing the tour de france or a Marathon runner, those are the people who get immune deficiencies and what not. It could be a diet problem, but I don't know his diet. I just know ... milk should be in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPXmFRIoT-k

I can't find the footage of him drinking it but here is proof at least (30 sec. in or so).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 23 2009, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Stoner fans are bringing it today, I guess the farther away from sunday it is the better you guys feel.
And actually i am am a sports personal trainer, so I do have knowledge on this issue. It is more than possible to workout and not gain any weight. As a matter of fact people actually workout to lose weight. Nothing that little girl could do would make him as big as Lesner. I workout 4-5 days a week and way less than 160 lbs. with a food intake over 2000 calories a day. Now I am not saying he needs to go that far, but riding a rode bike and doing some push ups would go along way to bettering him from his fatigue, and .....-... attitude. Goggle core strength and tell me that would help him out. It would at least make it easier for him to keep his cookies down.

it seems you have become a "sports personal trainer" variant of tom "the engineer". it also appears that you have a touch of babel-vision as evidenced by your ability to deduce muscle mass via the medium of TV.

nice fishing BTW seems you caught your limit!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Jul 23 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>it seems you have become a "sports personal trainer" variant of tom "the engineer". it also appears that you have a touch of babel-vision as evidenced by your ability to deduce muscle mass via the medium of TV.

nice fishing BTW seems you caught your limit!

Shoot not even a week and I have two labels.
Yes, but I can laugh at myself. And I am here "to pump you up!"
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I will take note this year at Indy when I see him. I'll give him a big "Whatzzzz uuupppp!!!" And see if I can't get a hand shake. You can tell a lot about a man by his handshake.

And yes my basket is full today. Chopper where are you man? Stoner fans are PMSing again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 24 2009, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Perhaps between recovery from the surgery and developing the illness; he could do lots of stuff not involving his wrist anyway. He certainly showed few signs of physical frailty in 2007.

Are you really living in the past?? 07 was 2 years ago, he also showed few signs of frailty in 08-physically anyway, so if he has been suffering then CS must be superhuman to ride the duck the way he does-no?? his threshold is certainly above most, The wrist has been a problem for years including 07, it seems that your creativity in rebuttal to suit your bias far surpasses your grip on reality......

I know you don't like me point out the obvious, and you also seem to like to hide behind elitist descriptive references like Pop/Psychology/Journalistic Cliche (WTF!!)in a counter-punch which really missed the mark......so I thought you would enjoy this

Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result, especially when the tendency interferes with the ability to be impartial, unprejudiced, or objective.[1]. In other words, bias is generally seen as 'one-sided'. The term biased is used to describe an action, judgment, or other outcome influenced by a prejudged perspective. It is also used to refer to a person or body of people whose actions or judgments exhibit bias. The term "biased" is often used as a pejorative, because bias is inherently unjust, lacking merit.


.... I'm starting to sound like a Baby-Boomer now, time to stop!!! Bring on Donny and the Sunshine.....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Jul 23 2009, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>it seems you have become a "sports personal trainer" variant of tom "the engineer". it also appears that you have a touch of babel-vision as evidenced by your ability to deduce muscle mass via the medium of TV.

nice fishing BTW seems you caught your limit!


Ahh . . . clarity and perspective. There it is.
Al yer like a breath of fresh air.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 23 2009, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ahh . . . clarity and perspective. There it is.
Al yer like a breath of fresh air.
there was a large helping of tongue and cheek in his whole diatribe which i thought was glaringly obvious, i mean who would buy what he wrote with any seriousness?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 23 2009, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
Shoot not even a week and I have two labels.
Yes, but I can laugh at myself. And I am here "to pump you up!"
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I will take note this year at Indy when I see him. I'll give him a big "Whatzzzz uuupppp!!!" And see if I can't get a hand shake. You can tell a lot about a man by his handshake.

And yes my basket is full today. Chopper where are you man? Stoner fans are PMSing again.
i tell ya dub, if stoner loses again , has a whine about something and does his grandpa simpson walk at donny im not going to say a word. im going to sit back and see what the apologists say, if they say anything at all most only ever speak if he wins or we take the piss. few ever comment on the race unless its stoner. im going to boo him i think, just for a laugh, see if i can make him cry or whinge