Radio Tavullia: Rossi without Burgess in 2014

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I said this at the time, the pic was misleading and shouldn't have nothing been read into it.  Even at my brother's funeral, who tragically and suddenly died at the peak of his life, there were moments where I smiled and laughed.  When shaking somebodies hand for paying their respects was met with a smile, when remembering funny moments while he was still alive for example, and many other reasons why a smile might have come to my face.  Geo, you sound like you never been to a funeral, but people are not constantly with a gloomy face, as the human spirit and frankly a defense mechanism is to mitigate the pain off loss.

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Burgess thrown under the bus.  

 

 

Chops, you make a good point compa, but unless Burgess's competence has failed, finding a reasonable and substantial reason to fire the man is increasingly intangible in the direction of delusional.  My feeling is this, the overall picture here is that Rossi is at the tail end of his career, if not his last year all together.  The likelihood of winning the title next year is, wait for it, thanks to BJC's calculation, 1:4, but that is a long shot 1:4.  I don't see any reason for him to fire Burgess unless perhaps Jerry ...... Uccio.  It can't be a lack of competence in Burgess.   He is still one of the best in the business, and frankly Rossi is having difficulty accepting that he is not as good as we had all been led to believe .   I doubt his poor results can be blamed on his crew chief but rather he is no longer enjoying the exclusive advantages that he once competed with.  On top of this, I think its a poor decision anyway, given that Jeremy can probably complete VR's sentences at this stage.  Who ever he gets is gonna have to learn all this experience from working together.  

 

Well, I was gonna say after watching the pre-event press conference how much I have enjoyed listening to VR post Duc-humbling era, turns out, the more things change the more they remain the same.  I'll be interested to hear what Burgess has to say, perhaps it was mutual? Maybe Burgess told VR he wanted to move on? If not, then I can't help but feel It was a bitch move to fire Burgess this late in the game, after the man stood by him two-years in the wilderness that VR CHOSE which resulted from ego.  Ego seems to have made this decision, and the guy is now eating his own children.  

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Don't be so naive. This is world level and that demands results to get paid. If the results are not there then something has to change. Next year JB, the following year Rossi himself i don't doubt.


With my footy team we sacked the manager who won us the first silverware in 33 years. It looked unfair and was unpopular with many. That was until his replacement got us back to back promotions and got us into the premiership again. Then he was sacked and there was outrage in the city and sporting media. Now his replacement has got us in the top part of the league and instead of fighting against relegation, we are now fighting for a place in the champions league . You make the changes you need to get results. If you don't you will always be a loser ! I'm not saying it morally right but hey that's business.

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I said this at the time, the pic was misleading and shouldn't have nothing been read into it.  Even at my brother's funeral, who tragically and suddenly died at the peak of his life, there were moments where I smiled and laughed.  When shaking somebodies hand for paying their respects was met with a smile, when remembering funny moments while he was still alive for example, and many other reasons why a smile might have come to my face.  Geo, you sound like you never been to a funeral, but people are not constantly with a gloomy face, as the human spirit and frankly a defense mechanism is to mitigate the pain off loss.

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Burgess had a contract until the end of 2014,

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Jum, I've buried my share. 


From my POV, moments of gallows humor, sharing of funny stories, etc., is something that goes on among those mourning, among those who shared the life of the deceased and share in the experience of losing that person. Of course you can't be 100% grim and miserable. But painting on a Big Clown Smile for the ....... camera does not qualify.  Right or wrong, that's how I see that incident. 

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Jum, I've buried my share. 

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Jum, I've buried my share. 

From my POV, moments of gallows humor, sharing of funny stories, etc., is something that goes on among those mourning, among those who shared the life of the deceased and share in the experience of losing that person. Of course you can't be 100% grim and miserable. But painting on a Big Clown Smile for the ....... camera does not qualify.  Right or wrong, that's how I see that incident. 

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Sure, and  I am hardly an apologist for MM in regard to the Willairot incident,  but what was the point of sending him out in the first place? I don't think Gabbarini would have, the same as he was actually capable of counting the laps correctly at PI, or at least deciphering the hand written note.

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My take on all this is that a new chief is not going to change much for Rossi, But the seed of the divorce was sown at the time of the famous '80 seconds'. Burgess' optimistic evaluation of the possibility to be competitive on a Ducati was completely wrong (and Rossi had trusted him on that); now after three rather difficult years there is not much passion left between the two. On top of all that Burgess has been quite outspoken recently, going on record about the fact that Valentino is not that young anymore, not as fast, etc.; and that is something Rossi doesn't want to hear. So there you are.

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You took that tale hook, line and sinker, mm. And now you're exaggerating it.

If MM can count the zeros in his contract, he can count the laps.

What's the motivation for providing excuses?

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My take on all this is that a new chief is not going to change much for Rossi, But the seed of the divorce was sown at the time of the famous '80 seconds'. Burgess' optimistic evaluation of the possibility to be competitive on a Ducati was completely wrong (and Rossi had trusted him on that); now after three rather difficult years there is not much passion left between the two. On top of all that Burgess has been quite outspoken recently, going on record about the fact that Valentino is not that young anymore, not as fast, etc.; and that is something Rossi doesn't want to hear. So there you are.

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That's still not to say JB didn't tell Rossi he wanted to move on . He could be let out of such contract without penalty. Happens all the time if there are good feelings between each party.

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Read Rossi's quotes. If that was the case, surely he would have said "JB wants to move on/retire" instead of saying "it was my decision, I need a change, I can't ride for .... anymore and I'm looking for other people to blame other than my own sorry arse."


 


This is the nail in the coffin for Rossi, he should have swallowed his pride and bowed out himself. Whatever his lack of pace is caused by, it's hardly his crew chief. JB had stuck by him despite the ego driven move to Ducati, and now Rossi hasn't even given him the opportunity to retire on his own terms.

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Bombshell.


 


I stand corrected.

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But we spoke together alone, and I tried to explain that I need something different for next year, something new, some new boost, some new motivation, and he said he's very sorry, because he want to continue, but he understand. But very quiet.' from motomatters

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I'm not saying these quotes are correct or incorrect, in fact i dont even know if these are actual quotes, what language they were made in or whether they have been translated to project the correct spirit of the interview. This is why i said i would wait until i have heard JB's response before forming any judgement. I would rather hear it from the horses mouth than some Italian radio station and or MCN.

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"But we spoke together alone, and I tried to explain that I need something different for next year, something new, some new boost, some new motivation, and he [Burges] said he's very sorry, because he want to continue, but he understand. But very quiet." Valentino Rossi quote from Motomatters

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Compa, in English, from the yellow horse's mouth:


 


 


Seems fairly clear Burgess wanted to continue working with VR and was shocked at the news.  

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