THE OTHER SIDE OF ROSSI’S FAN CLUB

JPSLotus said:

I never said anything about the forum living or dying whether I post. Any given forum is only as good as the people posting, and you're not actually one of those people. There's a reason I mentioned a whole slew of other posters in addition to me.

Some of us enjoy coming to here to discuss MotoGP at large, so yes, this place is important to not just me, but others. I know plenty of the posters have established real life friendships as a result of this place, and I have done so as well. You can try to call my consideration of this place being important, "sad" but I call it "happy" as there's been some wonderful personal rewards reaped from posting here. I only ever came here to discuss motorcycle racing, so for there to be an added benefit was just icing on the cake.

That said, this place clearly holds some importance to you given your continued participation that most everyone here does not like, or want. So, does it make you sad inside that you feel this place is important enough to post your inane ........? My life is pretty good, thanks for your concern.

If you'll notice after the above quoted post, subsequent responses to you are of the nature that people don't like you, or your troll posts. In fact, it would be welcomed by the majority of the active forum if you disappeared as you are an absolutely worthless contributor, who cannot generate adult responses or thoughts. Dani the Dim is your groupie...two VR46 fanboys with no original thoughts in their head, and worthless contributors overall.

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moto vudu said:

Ok you've convinced me... I'll stick around and keep participating. Thanks!

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JPSLotus said:

I wouldn't expect anything less from you as you are nothing more than a troll who has no original thoughts to convey. It must suck to have so little fulfillment, accomplishment, and general sense of worth in your life, that the best you can do is come here and act like a ........ Committing that kind of effort into being anything other than useful is kind of fascinating.

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JPSLotus said:

I wouldn't expect anything less from you as you are nothing more than a troll who has no original thoughts to convey. It must suck to have so little fulfillment, accomplishment, and general sense of worth in your life, that the best you can do is come here and act like a ........ Committing that kind of effort into being anything other than useful is kind of fascinating.

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JPSLotus said:

I wouldn't expect anything less from you as you are nothing more than a troll who has no original thoughts to convey. It must suck to have so little fulfillment, accomplishment, and general sense of worth in your life, that the best you can do is come here and act like a ........ Committing that kind of effort into being anything other than useful is kind of fascinating.

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Daniboy said:

Just because you fail to convince other people to follow your ethos there's no need to resort to the level of a playground bully in junior school.

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JPSLotus said:

I wouldn't expect anything less from you as you are nothing more than a troll who has no original thoughts to convey. It must suck to have so little fulfillment, accomplishment, and general sense of worth in your life, that the best you can do is come here and act like a ........ Committing that kind of effort into being anything other than useful is kind of fascinating.

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Keshav said:

That's rich. If anyone were "bullying" you - you'd have a right to complain. But the fact is you go out of your way to encourage negative feed-back by playing the fool and going out of your way to alienate everyone. You're your own worst enemy. For the life of me, I don't understand why you don't ply your brand of nonsense over at Crashnet where you'd fit right in.

Oh... that's right; Crashnet is chockablock with hundreds of feeble-minded Custard Gobblers just like yourself. We've seen dozens of your ilk here over the years and with few exceptions, you all seem to emerge from the same cookie cutter mold. Two or three of you pop up for a time, pester the adults, get bored and leave, only to be replaced by another Gobbler no different than the preceding one. It's like you're clones; ones missing the gene for logic, healthy social interaction or IQ numbers higher than your shoe size, unremittingly banal and sophomoric in everything you say or do. Over at Crashnet you are just one of undifferentiated,countless spermatozoa that missed the target, lying in a pool on the floor - unnoticed. But here where the population can have differing opinions and nuanced conversations about things other than the Dayglow Messiah, you stick out; and thrive on the delusion that anyone here really views you as an individual. But we don't. You're just another interchangeable Rossi ass-clown.

Sad.

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Daniboy said:

And just like junior school all the bullies follow in each others footsteps. Try a different tack matey.

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Keshav said:

Persecution complex much?

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Daniboy said:

Not really, your small essay is not effective at all, it does however make you look like a typical playground bully.

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JPSLotus said:

You know what I am looking most forward to in 2017?

When VR gets beaten like a rented mule by a number of riders this year. We're going to see his worst overall performance in GP ever this year excluding the Ducati years.

Why, I predict by late May, early June, that you won't be able to able to find the VR46 fan club around here once they see his 10th title is up in smoke due to too much competition. Real easy to run up titles and wins when the playing field is stacked in your favor, not so much the case when those advantages are diminishing on a yearly basis as his age increases. But you may see one or two of his groupies hang around in a desperate attempt to try and prove they are "here for the racing".

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AJV80 said:

Rossi's hopes of a 10th title will rely on his Yamaha being the strongest bike this season and for him to be able to outgun Maverick. Two very big 'what if's'. I'm sure he will try as hard as ever but with his age against him I just don't see his fairy tail 10th title coming to fruition.

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Keshav said:

You mistake my purpose in posting. I've been around too long to actually think you would respond to anything I say in a logical or rational fashion. You've proved yourself time and again, to be immune to logic and incapable of rational response. I'm not entreating you to leave. That would be wishful thinking. It's just that I take a certain amount of pleasure in having my say.

Having childish trolls like you and the other nimrods on the forum is just a fact of life and has to be borne like a bad rash or herpes. So go ahead and continue painting yourself as the victim - tho - really, nobody here buys that. You're here of your own free will.

So, by all means - troll away along with your tiny tribe of muppets. We're accustomed to the minor inconvenience of nuisances. But do stop grumbling about negativity directed towards you. You and yours are here because you crave attention; you're getting it - just not the kind you want. Get used to it. For imbeciles and miscreants like you ... this is as good as it gets.

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Little Walter said:

What's pathetic is your compulsion to poke your pointy head into a forum inhabited by people trying to have something resembling an adult conversation - and instead of learning from the grown-ups, you run around picking your nose and taunting people are just trying to have a conversation that doesn't revolve around Rossi. But that's your one and only agenda; Rossi Rossi Rossi - he's so great and you're all haters; blah blah blah. This is essence of every post that you put up here. That's the extent of your participation here.

You think you're annoying us??? .... that. We don't have to make any conscious effort to piss you off. The mere fact that nobody here wants to drink the Rossi Kool Aid - drives you bat-..... You're just like ....... evangelicals who go around pestering non-believers because the mere fact of the existence of doubt pokes holes in your own faith. You can troll all you want here. You'll never sell that ........ to people who know better.

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michaelm said:

I think this is a little harsh on DB.

The main thing which irks me with the bopper phenomenon is lack of recognition and in many cases outright hatred and vilification of other riders, even riders who are obviously of the highest quality in their own right like Stoner and Lorenzo, a phenomenon which ultimately deprived me of what was a considerable source of enjoyment on Sunday evening on race week-ends for a good part of a decade, watching Casey Stoner ride, win or lose.

I don't place DB in that category, he is almost exclusively a defender of Rossi and the fact is that there is a lot to defend about Rossi as an actual rider, and a little balance on here while we go about our holy task of providing balance in the universe generally where Valentino is concerned is not such a bad thing imo as I have said.

I still think Valentino is two-faced and manipulative, but have mellowed a little in regard to late season 2015, and am more inclined to David Emmett's view at the time, Valentino actually losing the plot/his mind in the obsessive pursuit of the white whale/10th title. The proud revelation by Uccio that he was the author of the PI 2015 conspiracy theory was perspective changing as well; I had thought Valentino was smarter than that, but he isn't the first sportsman of his stature to end up living in a bubble informed by sycophants with the consequent loss of all contact with reality. Last season him apparently forcing Lorenzo out of Yamaha was the last straw for me, and seemed like the end by off track means at Valentino's hands of a second rider of historical talent of whom I was a fan; I now think Lorenzo could have stayed if not with the status he desired and arguably deserved, and that there was a genuine element of him wanting to try somewhere else, particularly with his old mate Gigi.

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Keshav said:

It's not about his defense of Rossi. It's about his overall lack of integrity - in that he makes nonsense pronouncements and when they are disproved - he refuses to acknowledge what's been said and just throws up more nonsense - ad nauseum. It's about his relentless ........ - which he knows perfectly well is (mildly) irritating. It's really tedious being subjected to his inane obsession with Rossi which nobody here wants vomited all over this forum. Mindless fanaticism is wearisome and it's constant injection into every thread is counter productive. I really value interacting with genuinely engaged racing fans and naturally feel resentful at this unwelcome distraction. It's just in the nature of people who are passionate about this sport to have strong feelings - so yes - I react in a harsh manner because it expresses my lack of tolerance for idiots.

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AJV80 said:

This should be an really interesting year, if the big bang Honda engine remains down on grunt it may put Marc at a disadvantage this season. Jorge I'm not sure of it could go either way with him and the Ducati, either blitzing the field or struggling to get his head around the bike for most of the season. If Maverick performs like all the media are talking him up to then I think he will be a serious contender.

Its still really hard to pick for me, with the removal of winglets and all the bikes still being developed its still to early to say. Rossi's hopes of a 10th title will rely on his Yamaha being the strongest bike this season and for him to be able to outgun Maverick. Two very big 'what if's'. I'm sure he will try as hard as ever but with his age against him I just don't see his fairy tail 10th title coming to fruition.

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JKant said:

I think we'll need to wait to 2018 to see the best of Lorenzo. His USP has always been precision & consistency rather than adaptability. He's still working on his technique and when he gets it perfected he'll be able pull off those fast laps in his trademark metronomic style. He'll get there eventually (well.. I hope) but I don't see him getting there quickly.

Also, despite being a superb defender, he's still a rider more comfortable at the head of the pack (preferably alone) where he can get into a good rhythm rather than feuding somewhere in the middle of the pack (in contrast to Rossi who's at his fastest when he's fighting for a position), so that'll take some getting used to as well. And if you're not in the title fight from Day 1, in a field as competitive as this one, its highly unlikely you'll be fighting for it in Nov.

Vinales is fast and there's almost certainly a WC in his future, but he still has work to do. His racecraft is still patchy (unlike Rossi) and he can often flup his starts (unlike Lorenzo). And Marquez sure isn't going to cut him any slack when they're fighting for the lead. I do expect at least a couple of Lorenzoesque runaway wins from pole position from him.

Meanwhile Marquez is... Marquez. The obvious favourite but he's got a tendency to ride too close to edge. A spot of bad luck and it could really hurt his prospects. Almost crashed at Catalunya (antipenultimate lap IIRC), almost crashed at Sachsenring, ran off the track twice at Silverstone, almost crashed at Aragon, and, on a well sorted bike, crashed at Sepang & Phillip Island. There's nobody better at riding on the edge, but he's still not a safe bet IMO, esp. given how unforgiving the RC213V is.

All in all, I think Rossi has a decent shot at the title. His race pace is better than its been in years and he's vastly improved his qualifying performances (an impressive achievement at his age). Little bit of luck and who knows.

A competitive Vinales doesn't really the change the outlook. His presence could assist Marquez (eg. #93#25#46 or #25#46#93) but could hurt it as well (eg. #46#25#93 or #25#93#46).

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