Nor was I but I still say that any comparison is flawed purely because the only year where the attitude did not provide dividends for Marquez was 2015 as with 2013 and 2014, the approach resulted in more wins than bins (2015 was more bins than wins of course), yet with Ianonne his win to bin ratio is extremely one sided.
Thus to me, the styles are different in so much as what may look a win or bin it style (of Marquez) actually is not as his binning it is a lot less, thus for me his style is more ragged and on the edge but rarely over it in race trim (with some exceptions of course as 2015 and latter 2016 shows). With Ianonne he is a polar opposite and rather than just on the edge and ragged he does go beyond and thus crashes more frequently when in races than does Marquez.
First off, where am I trying to 'flame' him, I simply do not rate him as highly as you do ............. and whilst not alone in that aspect it does not make me or others flaming him .......... or are we now taking the 'yellow horde' approach of to criticise my rider is hatred/flaming.
Facts are facts sorry AJ and the fact is that he has achieved very little in teh sport to date by comparison to others, and it was you that drew a comparison with Marquez's style so the fact is that if their styles are similar their results are significantly different.
Yes, one (Marquez) has been afforded advantages that his talent has allowed (through opening doors) but that in itself does not excuse others for not achieving on their given equipment (and that does not mean race wins).
I have said before, a number of times, that the parallels between Simoncelli and Ianonne in their careers to this stage are remarkable in showing promise but producing little (Ianonne being in front there with a win) and the point is that Ianonne has been on factory equipment and crashed a lot. His approach may be exciting to watch (not all would agree) but it does not serve his longevity in the sport nor his future prospects if he is unable to show or produce results after his four full years in the top category if he is to continue crashing.
He may well be a spectators dream as he is a bit of a nutter on track and well extroverted off it, but results will be required eventually and to me, Suzuki is his make or break year and sadly, I do not see Suzuki as championship material.
Whilst you assert that he is over-riding the bike (possibly fair) I assert that his mental application and race craft is not mature enough and thus, he falls because he is unable to adjust or manage a race (no better example there than Rossi who will apply a best result scenario as opposed to win or bin).
Ianonne is talented, no doubt and he crashes a hell of a lot, just as Miller, Crutchlow etc and as such, for mine he needs to step up and mature in race and riding terms to start producing race finishes firstly as once they start consistently then he will start creeping up the order to podiums and possibly a win or so, but not a MotoGP title. No harm in that as there are many riders who will produce the occasional result and yet will never win a world title due to a number of things (skill being but a small part).
If my not seeing the same as you is flaming, well so be it but then I guess I flame near every rider as for mine, few are the exceptional championship contenders as few are mature enough in managing an individual race, never mind managing a championship season which takes extraordinary levels of mental fortitude, physical strength and amazing skill.
If my having a divergent opinion makes me a cranky old prick, so be it really but if we are not allowed to voice our opinions than tough for I won't change just to please people who support certain riders. A spade is a spade, a shovel an shovel and a rider who needs to mature, a rider who needs to mature.
As for the milk comment, think of it what you will both my adult kids are doing pretty well in life with the managing, upbringing and discipline of both their parents ..............
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