THE OTHER SIDE OF ROSSI’S FAN CLUB

First they came for the Boppers and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Bopper

Then they came for the Cuntslows, and I did not speak out—
Because .... Crutchlow

Then they came for the Lactose Intolerant, and I did not speak out—
Because I was too tired

Then they came for DB and there was no one left to speak but nannies

moto vudu said:

Good post, but I would add Iannone will likely be a factor as well. If Iannone is able to run with the lead pack he'll have a greater impact on the races than Vinales because The Maniac isn't shy with his overtaking attempts.

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He's always had the pace but he crashes more often than he podiums. Especially when he's in podium contention.

Last year he crashed six times. Five of those were from a podium position. Sixth one being his attempt to spoon Lorenzo at Catalunya.

I was hoping it would be different on the Suzuki but two testing sessions into the season and he's crashed it four times already, so...

That said, in general, there are several riders who can be a factor on race day and have impact on the points table; Pedrosa, Crutchlow, Dovizioso, Lorenzo. Bautista & Zarco may throw up a surprise or two as well.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

First they came for the Boppers and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Bopper

Then they came for the Cuntslows, and I did not speak out—
Because .... Crutchlow

Then they came for the Lactose Intolerant, and I did not speak out—
Because I was too tired

Then they came for DB and there was no one left to speak but nannies

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It's so noble of you to stand up for the oppressed. What a guy.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

First they came for the Boppers and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Bopper

Then they came for the Cuntslows, and I did not speak out—
Because .... Crutchlow

Then they came for the Lactose Intolerant, and I did not speak out—
Because I was too tired

Then they came for DB and there was no one left to speak but nannies

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Please inform me about any lactose intolerant riders. I will defend any rider with that terrible affliction to the death.

moto vudu said:

Good post, but I would add Iannone will likely be a factor as well. If Iannone is able to run with the lead pack he'll have a greater impact on the races than Vinales because The Maniac isn't shy with his overtaking attempts.

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I'm a bit of an Iannone fan so I would love to see him do well on the Suzuki, him losing his seat with Ducati would have been a tough pill to swallow even though i can understand their reasons. if the Suzuki is an easier bike for him to push like a maniac on, hopefully it gives him the consistency he needs.

Through crashing and injury last year he missed 10 of the 18 rounds, thats more than half the season .... mind you he still managed 3 podiums and a win in the races he finished.

moto vudu said:

Good post, but I would add Iannone will likely be a factor as well. If Iannone is able to run with the lead pack he'll have a greater impact on the races than Vinales because The Maniac isn't shy with his overtaking attempts.

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Likely be wrong but for me (and I have said this before) but Ianonne is the modern day Simoncelli ............ yes, can ride and occasionally shows glimpses but is all to often subject of a brain fade that takes him out of contention.

He is to inconsistent to be what I would call a realistic threat as with his MotoGP experience he should (IMO) be far more consistent than he has been in the last year or two, thus for me he is a turd that awaits the polish before I will consider him worthy.

AJV80 said:

I'm a bit of an Iannone fan so I would love to see him do well on the Suzuki, him losing his seat with Ducati would have been a tough pill to swallow even though i can understand their reasons. if the Suzuki is an easier bike for him to push like a maniac on, hopefully it gives him the consistency he needs.

Through crashing and injury last year he missed 10 of the 18 rounds, thats more than half the season .... mind you he still managed 3 podiums and a win in the races he finished.

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Thing is, was the Ducati the issue or was his riding style the issue with the Ducati, and as JKant says, he has already dropped the bike more times than some do in a season.

I am harsh on Ianonne as I see talent but I do not see 'brains' in terms of emotional control or race management skills ........... just a balls and all get out of my way rider who is liable to serious .... ups.

He needs to first concentrate on finishing and finishing often, as once he gets that under control the speed will follow and likely better positions.

Race winner, yes. Championship winner, no.

Little Walter said:

It's so noble of you to stand up for the oppressed. What a guy.

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I got your back too bro. If you ever spontaneously combust, I'd be happy to piss all over you

#.........livesmatter

michaelm said:

Please inform me about any lactose intolerant riders. I will defend any rider with that terrible affliction to the death.

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I don't understand. Are you saying you will breast feed them? You should pick a better cause like cls or mystery illnesses.

Gaz said:

Thing is, was the Ducati the issue or was his riding style the issue with the Ducati, and as JKant says, he has already dropped the bike more times than some do in a season.

I am harsh on Ianonne as I see talent but I do not see 'brains' in terms of emotional control or race management skills ........... just a balls and all get out of my way rider who is liable to serious .... ups.

He needs to first concentrate on finishing and finishing often, as once he gets that under control the speed will follow and likely better positions.

Race winner, yes. Championship winner, no.

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No he certainly isn't perfect, but thats why I like him .... at least the guy is having a go. Marquez was similar with his win it/bin it style of riding and at times even running into other riders. What helped Marquez in 2016 was being told by all his team members to "FINISH THE RACE" every time they saw him to etch that point into his brain. After he took the championship he couldn't contain himself any longer and had to get it out of his system in the final rounds, Its was great fun to watch and makes the racing exciting for the fans, good on him.

I'm sure Iannone will work it out one way or another, maybe having "I will not crash my bike" tattooed onto the back of his eyelids will help.

AJV80 said:

I'm sure Iannone will work it out one way or another, maybe having "I will not crash my bike" tattooed onto the back of his eyelids will help.

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With 4 crashes does it mean he can't read?

I like him he's exciting but needs to learn to control the kamikaze tendency.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

I got your back too bro. If you ever spontaneously combust, I'd be happy to piss all over you

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You're a Russian prostitute?

Little Walter said:

You're a Russian prostitute?

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Thanks!! That's the best compliment Ive received all day.
Happy Valentines Day
Will your right hand be dressing up in lingerie for this special occasion?

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

Thanks!! That's the best compliment Ive received all day.
Happy Valentines Day
Will your right hand be dressing up in lingerie for this special occasion?

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Anal on the first date?

Jumkie said:

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

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Which wall, Chinese, Hadrian's or the future developed Mexican one?

Daniboy said:

Which wall, Chinese, Hadrian's or the future developed Mexican one?

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Rossi's

Little Walter said:

Anal on the first date?

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Yes but no kissing

AJV80 said:

No he certainly isn't perfect, but thats why I like him .... at least the guy is having a go. Marquez was similar with his win it/bin it style of riding and at times even running into other riders. What helped Marquez in 2016 was being told by all his team members to "FINISH THE RACE" every time they saw him to etch that point into his brain. After he took the championship he couldn't contain himself any longer and had to get it out of his system in the final rounds, Its was great fun to watch and makes the racing exciting for the fans, good on him.

I'm sure Iannone will work it out one way or another, maybe having "I will not crash my bike" tattooed onto the back of his eyelids will help.

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Maybe, but by then Marquez was already a multiple times world champion (2 x MotoGP, 1 xMoto2, 1 xMoto3) and race winner whilst Ianonne is, well, Ianonne (No championships) and yet to fulfill the promise, potential and investment in him (none of this means he is a failure btw).

In many ways Marquez is a poor comparison as his achievement whilst somewhat a win or bin it style, were significantly based around more wins than bins where Ianonne cannot even get close to the results so any comparison is seriously flawed as against Ianonne and can show how far behind he actually is with the lack of results.

IMO only, but his risk is equal to or greater than that of Lorenzo but we seem to only focus on the JL challenge and not the challenge of AI

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Gaz said:

Maybe, but by then Marquez was already a multiple times world champion (2 x MotoGP, 1 xMoto2, 1 xMoto3) and race winner whilst Ianonne is, well, Ianonne (No championships) and yet to fulfill the promise, potential and investment in him (none of this means he is a failure btw).

In many ways Marquez is a poor comparison as his achievement whilst somewhat a win or bin it style, were significantly based around more wins than bins where Ianonne cannot even get close to the results so any comparison is seriously flawed as against Ianonne and can show how far behind he actually is with the lack of results.

IMO only, but his risk is equal to or greater than that of Lorenzo but we seem to only focus on the JL challenge and not the challenge of AI

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Gaz, I wasn't at all comparing their stats as you are trying to suggest I was, so no .. nothing is 'flawed'???? i was just highlighting the similarities in thier natural riding tendencies, both liking to push it right to the limit and can crash in doing so, thats all. Seems a pretty fair and logical comparison to me. Agree to disagree.

Iannone hasn't had the success in the feeder groups like Marquez, but I'm sure it wasn't from his lack of trying just like every other rider out there who isn't a world champion. I wouldnt be flaming him because he hasn't won a world championship in MotoGP though. Stoner is the only rider to ever win a championship with Ducati and even with his amazing talent it wasn't something he could repeat with them. If Iannone's first ride in MotoGP was on the Repsol Honda I doubt he would have even gotten close to Marc's win record and he certainly wouldnt be the only one ... Marc is a freak and one of those riders that could define a generation. Although I do think Iannone would have had more success over the same period with Repsol than he did whilst on those Ducati's.

The guy falls off alot because he is overriding the bike, probably because he is trying so desperately to live up to the expectations of those who have invested in him and doesn't want to let them down (like most riders). He also forgets to turn his brain on more often than not and gets himself into strife. His 'putting it all on the line' style isn't the safest way to get points and claw up the ladder, but its .... loads more exciting to watch for me as a spectator.

I just don't see the point of you having to flame him. Geez, I'd hate to think what you'd do if your kid spilt some milk.