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MotoGP: 2015 Round 07 - Catalunya (SPOILERS)

MM tried his best to .... whip Lorenzo on his way to a dirt nap. This man is riding past the edge. Game over for him as far as the championship goes.

Lorenzo is a beast, but Rossi showed that he has the same pace. An impressive ride by both these guys.

Everyone else crashed out. ....... Crutchlow is pure comedy at this point!
 
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I eagerly await Krops propaganda piece on how the RCV failed MurderMac or that Lorenzo braked too early for the corner in an intended effort to put MM out of the race.
 
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Ok since I am quivering with anticipation for the Kropoganda piece on how the RCV is a pile of ...., I yanked these quotes out of Crash.net.

This stuff is great, and all are MurderMac.

“Today was the day that I felt closer to Valentino and Lorenzo's pace,” Marquez began. “When I start the race I felt strong behind Jorge but still this problem that we have with corner entry - I'm happy because this weekend we did a step - but the problem is still there. And one thing is riding alone in practice, when I can go wide or tight when I slide and loose maybe one tenth of a second.

Problem with corner entry?

More like he doesn't want to have to adapt his preferred riding style to what the bike is actually giving him.

“Today when I was behind Lorenzo I braked at the same point, but I had a slide and it was so difficult to stop the bike. Then I saw Lorenzo in front of me and had to decide to go in [to the corner] or go wide. I saw that to go in was too dangerous for both of us, so I decided to go wide. Then I saw the wall was coming really quick and when I entered the gravel I was too fast.”

“The gear lever was damaged so I had to stop. I'm disappointed because we lost many points, but happy on the other side because we did another step [with the bike this weekend]. Tomorrow we have an important test where we need to try some new and old items to understand everything and after that we will see.”

Indeed, losing so many points is disappointing...especially when you're too ....... stupid to stop trying to ride bike beyond it's limits.

But wait, then he says...

“Today I took the risk and people will say 'why don't you finish the race'. Sure I can finish the race 20 seconds behind but you know it is not my style. Yesterday I say that now I am at the point where I need to take risks if I want to win this championship, but I cannot lose any race.

So basically Marc, you say that you can't finish 20 seconds behind because it is not your "style" but have you ever thought about the team who might be thinking by now, "Why does this ..... not get us points we could desperately use in the constructor's championship?" While it may be hard for you to admit MurderMac, the team is about more than just you and your wins/championships. Christ if I was a mechanic, I might dent his head with a spanner.

“I tried. We lose the race, now it will be really difficult for the championship but the next target is to try to find the way to be as close as possible to both Yamaha riders. When you are trying to follow the [Yamahas] you need to ride 100% on the limit and then when you do a small mistake, like Mugello and here, you lose the race.”

Tried? LOL

Yeah you tried to take the lead on a bike that isn't cut out for it, and then instead of trying for the best possible reasonable finish, you crash out with another moron attempt at trying to get past a bike that is faster than yours. Here's the key, if your margin for error is nil, and you have to ride 10/10ths to have a chance to just KEEP UP, you might want to rethink that strategy.

“My approach will be the same,” Marquez insisted. “I don't have anything to lose now, so just the target is to try to arrive in the top level as soon as possible. Of course now is the time to work hard and I want to thank my team because they finish this weekend at 11-12 each night working on the electronics and things.

“I'm sorry for them because in the end I cannot say thanks with a great result. But when we win, we win together and when we lose, we lose together. We are working hard and really close.”

God I feel bad for your ....... team that they have to put up with your infantile .....

Since your approach is going to be the same, and you'll continue to crash out thus costing the team valuable constructor's points, you really can't possibly feel sorry for them. Feeling sorry would mean admitting you're a complete dumb .... who hasn't learned the virtue of why you aim to finish the race even if it means you will finish 20 seconds behind. However since you're incapable of this, I hope you crash out of every ....... race from now till Valencia because of how selfish you are.
 
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I get the feeling that his comment “My approach will be the same” means that he'll try and knock people out rather that ride the bike.
 
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I think it's safe to assume that Marc is going to get a lecture on the virtues of professionalism from HRC management very soon. I'm sure they're no longer amused by him.
 
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I was watching the live timing app during the race and Rossi rarely went over 1.42. So when Jorge did a few in the low 1.43 you could clearly see the gap shortening as they came into our set of corners.

Even if Rossi caught Jorge, I'm not sure he would have come out on top of that dog fight. Would have been great to see though.
 
Rossi fan, post some pics. I love to see the proceedings from the fan perspective. I'm sure u had plenty of fun. Would have been cool to see another epic duel like 09. But as u say, Lorenzo wasn't gonna let VR close enough to get in a confrontation. Knowing Rossi, Lorenzo was smart not to take that risk.
 
Ok since I am quivering with anticipation for the Kropoganda piece on how the RCV is a pile of ...., I yanked these quotes out of Crash.net.

This stuff is great, and all are MurderMac.



Problem with corner entry?

More like he doesn't want to have to adapt his preferred riding style to what the bike is actually giving him.





Indeed, losing so many points is disappointing...especially when you're too ....... stupid to stop trying to ride bike beyond it's limits.

But wait, then he says...



So basically Marc, you say that you can't finish 20 seconds behind because it is not your "style" but have you ever thought about the team who might be thinking by now, "Why does this ..... not get us points we could desperately use in the constructor's championship?" While it may be hard for you to admit MurderMac, the team is about more than just you and your wins/championships. Christ if I was a mechanic, I might dent his head with a spanner.



Tried? LOL

Yeah you tried to take the lead on a bike that isn't cut out for it, and then instead of trying for the best possible reasonable finish, you crash out with another moron attempt at trying to get past a bike that is faster than yours. Here's the key, if your margin for error is nil, and you have to ride 10/10ths to have a chance to just KEEP UP, you might want to rethink that strategy.



God I feel bad for your ....... team that they have to put up with your infantile .....

Since your approach is going to be the same, and you'll continue to crash out thus costing the team valuable constructor's points, you really can't possibly feel sorry for them. Feeling sorry would mean admitting you're a complete dumb .... who hasn't learned the virtue of why you aim to finish the race even if it means you will finish 20 seconds behind. However since you're incapable of this, I hope you crash out of every ....... race from now till Valencia because of how selfish you are.

I think if Jumkie had a child its name would be JPSLotus or for some of you if he had a .... they would name it JPS Lotus.
Good stuff JPS, I think Marks woes lie with HRC. If they would just design a shift lever that wouldnt snap under thousands of pounds of pressure he wouldnt be in this predicament.
I really have no idea how the little shitstain was keep that bike upright for 2 years pulling the same dangerous stunts that are now putting him in the dirt. Every time he crashes I think of those air dancer inflatable stick figures that flap their arms endlessly outside of muffler shops.
 
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Hey Jumkie,

The answer is "yes". I do write these up myself, which is why they come at varying times going in to the race weekend depending on what's happening at work or at home to interfere. Hope you guys like them.

Mike D, not quite really actively looking for a job in the field although I certainly wouldn't turn it down. I did apply for the opening when Krop had it on offer, but the only other real attempt was trying to get the Austin American Statesman to pick me up as a freelance writer or something. That was mainly because we have no coverage of anything race related here in town. Can you believe that? We have this fantastic track right here in our back yard, international acclaims and honors with track owners saying they want the "Austin tower" and at the time you could count the articles about MotoGP on both hands with fingers left over. Half of them were even of the drama between the owners and rights holders. Travesty! So I was trying to drum up some interest.

Right now this is all a labor of love that lets me practice and refine my writing while I work on my other writing projects.

Krop, we really do need to get together the next time you're in Austin. I'll buy the first round.

Nice work Budo. I regret to say that the effort is wasted on my because I just gloss over them. I have the attention span and ..... size as a gnat.
Well not for much longer, I a m happy to say because thanks to 69YOYO I just got an amazing ..... extender. Now if we could only get a smammer to hock some ginko or some adderal I could solve that ADD .... as well
 
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Hahaha. I don't know how this ....... forum can deploy the most sophisticated wizardry to chickenshit-throttle members on the sly, but has absolutely no power to throttle kitchen cabinets sales and ..... enlargers.
 
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Krops speaks! It's still the bike preventing Marc from achieving greatness!

That problem is still the aggressiveness of the Honda RC213V's engine, making the bike hard to handle on corner entry, and leaving it struggling for grip on corner exit. Marc Márquez demonstrated the issue perfectly once again, getting the Honda out of shape as he braked for La Caixa trying to follow Jorge Lorenzo's pace, and ending up running wide and falling in the gravel. The fall was low speed and harmless enough, but damaged Márquez' gear lever, meaning he could not change up, forcing him to abandon. They had improved corner entry a lot, Márquez said, but the problem was still there. During practice and qualifying it was now possible to ride around the problem, losing only a little as he improvised his line to cope when the rear locked up too much. "When you are riding along in practice, I feel that sometimes slide more, less and when you slide more it is difficult to stop the bike," Márquez explained. "But when you are alone you probably can go a little bit wide, come back and only lose one tenth." When that same slide happens when you are racing against another rider, their physical presence on the track means you do not have the same freedom to choose your lines. You are forced somewhere less than ideal, and can easily end up crashing, as Márquez did.

The crash looked scary as observer, and it looked as if Márquez had touched Jorge Lorenzo. Lorenzo certainly seemed to think so, but Márquez denied he had touched him. The three podium men – Lorenzo, Rossi and Pedrosa – were all asked if they felt that Márquez overriding the bike like that put other riders in danger. Lorenzo shrugged suggestively, Rossi joked about Márquez being the kind of friendly guy that always wants to touch you, and Pedrosa remained studiously noncommittal. Later, Bradley Smith was much more vocal. Was he afraid that Márquez would take someone with him when he crashed? No, said Smith. "He always gathers up his problems. He never takes another rider with him," he said. "When he has his issues he makes sure he avoids everybody and then he has his problems off the race track. It’s the same thing that we were talking about let’s say Jerez in his first year. The fact that he nearly hit in the back of everyone and everyone said, it’s dangerous. Yes, it is dangerous but if you’re not going to hit the other riders then really it’s nothing to complain about."

Why take the risk of crashing, we members of the press wondered. Why not ride more conservatively, try to grab some points, and live to fight another day? Firstly, it is not in his nature, Márquez said. "Sure I can finish the race 20 seconds behind them but you know it is not my style," he told reporters. More importantly, though, he had nothing left to lose. "Yesterday I say that now I am at the point where I need to take risks if I want to win this championship but I cannot lose any race." It is a fiendish dilemma indeed. Márquez is so far behind in the championship that he cannot afford to finish behind the Yamaha men. But finishing ahead of them requires taking a massive amount of risk every lap, and you can only get lucky for so long. Finishing third every race will definitely lose him the championship. Trying to win it but crashing will also lose it. "The thing is that these first two laps I was able to follow [Lorenzo] but always at the limit, always riding really smooth. When you are trying to follow them you need to ride 100% on the limit and then when you do a small mistake, like Mugello and here, you lose the race. But for me my mentality it was the only way to win this championship. I tried." And probably failed. Márquez is now on 69 points, exactly half of Rossi's total. He can no longer rely on his own results to win the championship, he will need both Lorenzo and Rossi to start throwing away points.

Márquez' crash is illustrative of Honda's travails. Dani Pedrosa finished a long way behind Lorenzo and Rossi. Part of that may still be Pedrosa's recovery period from arm pump surgery, but this was getting better every race, and even every day, he told the press conference. Still, Pedrosa's problems were responsible only for a small part of the gap. Even fully fit, Pedrosa would still have been a long way from the Yamaha men. Cal Crutchlow, taken out entirely accidentally by Aleix Espargaro on the first lap, a crash in which he broke the rear brake and was forced to pull into the pits, reckoned he could have a good shot at the podium, but he would have been twelve seconds behind the leaders. Honda can't fix the engines, as they are all sealed, and the development moratorium on electronics comes in at the end of this month. That leaves only the chassis for them to play with, but with at least two different specs of chassis – the stiffer variant favored by Marc Márquez, and one with a bit more flex preferred by the other Honda riders – finding a direction is complicated for HRC. They will get there, though. It is just a small matter of research budgets.

The only way to make up points is to continue riding like a total deranged lunatic!
 
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As to Bradley saying Marc doesn't take others out, I think Bautista and almost Vale would have to disagree.


And with Marc having so much trouble with the power delivery of the engine, I don't think he would have stood a chance on the 500s.
 
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I think if Jumkie had a child its name would be JPSLotus or for some of you if he had a .... they would name it JPS Lotus.
Good stuff JPS, I think Marks woes lie with HRC. If they would just design a shift lever that wouldnt snap under thousands of pounds of pressure he wouldnt be in this predicament.
I really have no idea how the little shitstain was keep that bike upright for 2 years pulling the same dangerous stunts that are now putting him in the dirt. Every time he crashes I think of those air dancer inflatable stick figures that flap their arms endlessly outside of muffler shops.

Funny thing is everyone I talked to today IRL about the race had the same reaction...

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No one with any rational thought process seems to understand what MurderMac is doing out there. This mentality of if I can't win, I will just crash out trying to win is not normal racing behavior.
 
"Marc Marquez demonstrated the issue perfectly once again, getting the Honda out of shape..."


This is unbelievable! I almost thought there was no way Kropo or anyone could spin MurderMac 's .... up. But alas here it is, Kropo has lost his mind.
 
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As to Bradley saying Marc doesn't take others out, I think Bautista and almost Vale would have to disagree.


And with Marc having so much trouble with the power delivery of the engine, I don't think he would have stood a chance on the 500s.

Dani Pedrosa as well. Whatever the eventual mechanism (shearing off a wire if I recall) it was a result of being too close to the rider in front on a corner when not even attempting to overtake. Either he is trying to intimidate, is reckless or perhaps has suboptimal depth perception post the eye injury from the Willairot incident as Keshav has theorised.
 
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