Radio Tavullia: Rossi without Burgess in 2014

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I dont see your problem. Without giving away a spoiler in this thread the championship ended how it was expected in 1st to 4th. Had he finished lower than 4th i would see your problem.

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Many races this year, we've seen 3 bikes disappear at the front. By rights of equipment, Rossi should've been up there with them rather than leading the pack of satellites, and he would've done a lot of good for the team if he had been able to get inbetween the Hondas on a few occassions.

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That maybe the tv viewers grievance, but given the issues the yam has has in regard to being competitive to the Honda's Rossi did his job. There are only 4 bikes on the grid in championship terms. He finished where he was supposed too. I'm trying to explain here while being cyriptic enough not to give away spoilers.


Your main grievance seems to be that he didnt take points away from marquez to help lorenzo. Well did you forget Qatar and assen   And Laguna taking points from dan ?

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No need for spoilers as we've seen it all throughout the season. I'm not arguing that he should've finished higher than 4th, but the gap between 3rd and 4th should've been much smaller. It's somewhat tough to call as the only thing we know is that the Yamaha was a lesser bike to the Honda, but J-Lo won more races than anyone this year (not a spoiler as this would be true no matter what hapened today) now clearly his riding was overcompensating the bike disparity, but by how much? If Rossi is the example of the maximum that bike should be capable of, then Jorge must be nothing short of superhuman.


 


Only an ..... would try and argue Rossi isn't one of the greatest riders of all time, but he's clearly had his time in the sun. 4th out of 4 bikes is last, no matter how you want to cut it.

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Monday testing lol.


 


I wonder what Uccio actually does, apart from gum shield, drinks bottle and baseball cap duties ?  You would think after all these years he would have trained to do something useful. Realistically he could have done a masters degree and PHD in the time he has been in the gp circus.

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If you really want to know, here it is: Uccio's father owns a transportation business inTavullia, so Uccio learned how to drive trucks early. At the beginning of Rossi's career he volunteered to drive Rossi's motorhome and eventualy earned a permanent place in the team taking care of the motorhome and all stuff in it (leathers, gloves, helmets and what not). He still drives that truck personally to all European rounds as far as I know, and those are long and lonely trips. Why did he get that job when so many others would have loved doing it? Because Graziano Rossi and his father are buddies, so he grew up as one of Valentino's best friends since kindergarten. All the ..... about he and VR being gay is just plain silly. Uccio (Alessio Salucci is his real name) is married and has a child, btw, and still helps in his father's business as well.

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The Yamaha is a ....... excellent machine. People can say all they want that its an inferior machine but the numbers just dont add up. For it to do what it did this year being an inferior machines means that Lorenzo is light years ahead of the competition in riding skills, and that just isnt the case. Even with a non competitive 2nd rider, the bike won half the races, and led over 3 times a s many laps as the Honda. We can put that Yamaha is inferior fairy tale to bed.

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The Yamaha is a ....... excellent machine. People can say all they want that its an inferior machine but the numbers just dont add up. For it to do what it did this year being an inferior machines means that Lorenzo is light years ahead of the competition in riding skills, and that just isnt the case. Even with a non competitive 2nd rider, the bike won half the races, and led over 3 times a s many laps as the Honda. We can put that Yamaha is inferior fairy tale to bed.

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Yeah, i did know most of that. I was just wondering whether he has spent any of these years training to do something "skilled" within motogp.

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Hahaha, I do feel that people strongly underrate Pedrosa. Some random observations:


 


- 2005 - Beat Stoner quite comprehensively (when Stoner had a factory Aprilia)


- 2006 - Strong rookie season, regularly challenging for wins and in the title hunt until the penultimate round


- 2008 - Leading the championship until he broke his collarbone in the wet weather crash at Sachsenring (when Puig told him on the pitboard that he was .5 up on Rossi [or Stoner?] when he was actually 8 seconds ahead)


- 2009 - Injured himself badly in a crash, so was unable to challenge for the title


- 2010 - Broke his collarbone in Motegi (in the middle of a winning streak) when the HRC throttle ride-by-wire was stuck open (although I do feel that Lorenzo would have won that championship, Pedrosa would have been much closer)


- 2011 - Leading the championship (with Stoner as his teammate) until Marco took him out and broke his collarbone


- 2012 - Beat Stoner on the same bike (yes, Stoner was injured, but Dani was ahead in the standings even before the injury)


 


He's had some misfortune, but that should not obscure the fact that he's a one of the fastest and most talented riders in GP history. His biggest issue is that when he crashes, he tends to break something.


 


Of course, Rossi also beat Jorge quite handily for two-years straight. Yes, he was a rookie in 2008, but ask Pedrosa how fast a young rookie teammate can be...!

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His 125 and 250 career can't be faulted.


 


He is and will remain a nearly man in the premier class though, whatever the reasons, he has obviously  had  bad luck and problems with physical fragility, but was never going to win any of the 8 championships he contested imo.

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The Yamaha is a ....... excellent machine. People can say all they want that its an inferior machine but the numbers just dont add up. For it to do what it did this year being an inferior machines means that Lorenzo is light years ahead of the competition in riding skills, and that just isnt the case. Even with a non competitive 2nd rider, the bike won half the races, and led over 3 times a s many laps as the Honda. We can put that Yamaha is inferior fairy tale to bed.

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If I've got money pouring out of my ears and I'm looking to get set up with satellite kit, I know which bike I want to lease, and it's not the Yamaha. That's not to say it's uncompetitive, but I believe the Honda is the stronger overall package.


The interesting question for me, however, is would the Honda suit Lorenzo? I suspect he'd have no trouble whatsoever, but when you watch him ride the Yam, the bike appears to be an extension of his body. I know people said the same about Rossi and his M1, but I always felt that even Valentino had times where it looked like the bike needed convincing to do what he asked. That doesn't happen with Georgie.

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His 125 and 250 career can't be faulted.


 


He is and will remain a nearly man in the premier class though, whatever the reasons, he has obviously  had  bad luck and problems with physical fragility, but was never going to win any of the 8 championships he contested imo.

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