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la-pirata
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He has also taken this place off his list, hardly surprising though, is it, the only genuine paddock insider Powerslide has, and he gets slagged off by one or two, nice that some think they are in a better position than David.
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la-pirata
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He has also taken this place off his list, hardly surprising though, is it, the only genuine paddock insider Powerslide has, and he gets slagged off by one or two, nice that some think they are in a better position than David.


 


Well BJC, I realize you don't have much faith in your own faculties for independent thought, but some of us do.  Newsflash genius, even paddock insiders have opposing opinions, why would there be an anomaly among its spectators?  Today, two in the press conference sat next to eachother with opposing opinions, which one was right?  Oh yeah, the one that Kropo thinks is right..is right.  Kropos is one of the best in the business for reporting and presenting the news intelligently, but when it comes to opinions, we all got them.  Come off the farm a bit sheep dude, and think for yourself some.
 
povol
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 If we didnt have the drama queen fan, race direction would not feel like they had to place every little ....... incident under a microsope.   .... dont just happen anymore, it has to have fault attached, then we have to go through the finger pointing process of who is going to get blamed. Society in a nutshell.


Oh thats ....... ripe Povol. Assign blame to the the imaginary pitchfork weilding angry mob. I failed to read that story about throngs of angry Malaysians picketing around the track until Marquez be penalized.

Thats just as lame and make believe as blaming every republican gaff on the "liberal media"

Most fans dont give a .... about Marquezs propensity to leave his competitors sitting on their ... in the middle of an 80 mph corner. On this forum alone I count 3 maybe 4 out of 30 that believe he should be penalized. Im surprised you didnt chastise Pedrosa for bitching about having the best seat in the house. What a ..... huh? Most fans would be killed errrrrr would kill to be so close to the action.
 
stiefel
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stiefel, on 10 Oct 2013 - 10:37, said:

Massive respect for Lorenzo for having the balls to call them out on this .....



I'd like Race Direction to explain why if they penalized the manufacture for a poor design it was allowed to race at all. I'm laughing because i think Kropo was very effective in placing blame on Honda, so much so that Race Direction may have been moved to penalize them. The only problem is that if Race Direction is going to get in the business of penalizing manufactures for unsafe designs, shouldn't they step up before and not let the machine pass spec inspection? I mean, that's what they do with riders, right? That is, they must pass a bill of health to compete. Maybe Race Direction should penalize itself for allowing such an unsafe machine on the track that could have kill Pedrosa.


Why not penalize some of the CRT teams for being so slow and creating a track hazard as they have become mobile chicanes? How about some penalty points for leather companies, for allowing riders to get injured even though they now wear those inflatable suits. Isn't that a poor design? We should also bring the electronics companies into question, they deserve some penalty points, as they are allowing way too many highsides, something that the software is supposed to avoid. What about penalizing Spies team last year for allowing a swing-arm to crack? Surely that was a poor design. Not to mention that engine blowing up on the fast straight. That could have killed him and also made an unsafe condition on the surface, after all, engines blows are much more common than a once in a lifetime sensor cable being ripped off (by contact). There are lots of poor designs that are potentially hazardous in GP. Race Direction has a lot of work to do.


 


 


The other thing I'd like Race Direction to do is explain why Marc deserved a penalty point for this "slight touch" ( as many have described it) and the "torpedo" (or "slight touch" as some might describe it) at Jerez.  Are not all "slight touches" created equal?  
 
Jumkie
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I'd like Race Direction to explain why if they penalized the manufacture for a poor design it was allowed to race at all. I'm laughing because i think Kropo was very effective in placing blame on Honda, so much so that Race Direction may have been moved to penalize them. The only problem is that if Race Direction is going to get in the business of penalizing manufactures for unsafe designs, shouldn't they step up before and not let the machine pass spec inspection? I mean, that's what they do with riders, right? That is, they must pass a bill of health to compete. Maybe Race Direction should penalize itself for allowing such an unsafe machine on the track that could have kill Pedrosa.

Why not penalize some of the CRT teams for being so slow and creating a track hazard as they have become mobile chicanes? How about some penalty points for leather companies, for allowing riders to get injured even though they now wear those inflatable suits. Isn't that a poor design? We should also bring the electronics companies into question, they deserve some penalty points, as they are allowing way too many highsides, something that the software is supposed to avoid. What about penalizing Spies team last year for allowing a swing-arm to crack? Surely that was a poor design. Not to mention that engine blowing up on the fast straight. That could have killed him and also made an unsafe condition on the surface, after all, engines blows are much more common than a once in a lifetime sensor cable being ripped off (by contact). There are lots of poor designs that are potentially hazardous in GP. Race Direction has a lot of work to do.
 
 
The other thing I'd like Race Direction to do is explain why Marc deserved a penalty point for this "slight touch" ( as many have described it) and the "torpedo" (or "slight touch" as some might describe it) at Jerez.  Are not all "slight touches" created equal?
How dare you drag logic and reason into this.
 
la-pirata
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He has also taken this place off his list, hardly surprising though, is it, the only genuine paddock insider Powerslide has, and he gets slagged off by one or two, nice that some think they are in a better position than David.
When you finish washing Krops dishes I need you to detail my bike Elizabeth :lol:


Davs a big boy he'll be ok :)


OT: that's ........ they penalized Honda.
 
Ngads
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Anybody watch the pre race press conference?


 


I can't tell if lorenzo is joking, even tho he clarified that he was serious and that is his opinion.


 


Crash


Dang dude, that was dripping in sarcasm. I prefer Cal's statement


 


We all know that Marc is hot and that's how he rides the bike but he

does a spectacular job of riding so close to someone and not really

making a big controversy,” said the Englishman. “If you see him at every

race when he's behind a rider when he's going to make a mistake or run

wide he always goes to the outside. A lot of riders go to the inside and

make a massive crash so he's actually doing a better job than a lot of

riders in that sense.




“It's not for me to comment on it because I said before that I don't

believe he should be punished. This isn't going to make him change one

thing because he rides the way that he rides and it's how he wins so I

don't think there should be a penalty. I don't think he's doing

anything too bad but what's happening is that he's embarrassing everyone

by winning and some people are angry about it.




“They should punish all the riders in Moto2 and Moto3 for riding the

warm-up lap too slow because it's dangerous. Why don't they do that?

Instead of giving someone a penalty for tapping another rider. He never

knocked Dani, he knocked a sensor off that knocked Dani off. He didn't

go into the side of Dani and I don't think that he should be punished.”
 
Jumkie
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I'd like Race Direction to explain why if they penalized the manufacture for a poor design it was allowed to race at all. I'm laughing because i think Kropo was very effective in placing blame on Honda, so much so that Race Direction may have been moved to penalize them. The only problem is that if Race Direction is going to get in the business of penalizing manufactures for unsafe designs, shouldn't they step up before and not let the machine pass spec inspection? I mean, that's what they do with riders, right? That is, they must pass a bill of health to compete. Maybe Race Direction should penalize itself for allowing such an unsafe machine on the track that could have kill Pedrosa.


Why not penalize some of the CRT teams for being so slow and creating a track hazard as they have become mobile chicanes? How about some penalty points for leather companies, for allowing riders to get injured even though they now wear those inflatable suits. Isn't that a poor design? We should also bring the electronics companies into question, they deserve some penalty points, as they are allowing way too many highsides, something that the software is supposed to avoid. What about penalizing Spies team last year for allowing a swing-arm to crack? Surely that was a poor design. Not to mention that engine blowing up on the fast straight. That could have killed him and also made an unsafe condition on the surface, after all, engines blows are much more common than a once in a lifetime sensor cable being ripped off (by contact). There are lots of poor designs that are potentially hazardous in GP. Race Direction has a lot of work to do.


 


 


The other thing I'd like Race Direction to do is explain why Marc deserved a penalty point for this "slight touch" ( as many have described it) and the "torpedo" (or "slight touch" as some might describe it) at Jerez.  Are not all "slight touches" created equal?  


And the drama queens emerge right on que.
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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Oh thats ....... ripe Povol. Assign blame to the the imaginary pitchfork weilding angry mob. I failed to read that story about throngs of angry Malaysians picketing around the track until Marquez be penalized.

Thats just as lame and make believe as blaming every republican gaff on the "liberal media"
Most fans dont give a .... about Marquezs propensity to leave his competitors sitting on their ... in the middle of an 80 mph corner. On this forum alone I count 3 maybe 4 out of 30 that believe he should be penalized. Im surprised you didnt chastise Pedrosa for bitching about having the best seat in the house. What a ..... huh? Most fans would be killed errrrrr would kill to be so close to the action.


Maybe you missed this. the same number of rational fans who called for no penalty, called for 1 race suspension.


 




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Jumkie
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Until it infringes on your constitutional rights, then its a call to obstruct, game, and outright taking up arms for revolt, right?  The world according to Pov Hannity.


 


 


 


 


The penalty was a perfect reflection of the state of GP and Race Direction.


Fixed it for you
 
povol
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Dang dude, that was dripping in sarcasm. I prefer Cal's statement


 


We all know that Marc is hot and that's how he rides the bike but he

does a spectacular job of riding so close to someone and not really

making a big controversy,” said the Englishman. “If you see him at every

race when he's behind a rider when he's going to make a mistake or run

wide he always goes to the outside. A lot of riders go to the inside and

make a massive crash so he's actually doing a better job than a lot of

riders in that sense.




“It's not for me to comment on it because I said before that I don't

believe he should be punished. This isn't going to make him change one

thing because he rides the way that he rides and it's how he wins so I

don't think there should be a penalty. I don't think he's doing

anything too bad but what's happening is that he's embarrassing everyone

by winning and some people are angry about it.




“They should punish all the riders in Moto2 and Moto3 for riding the

warm-up lap too slow because it's dangerous. Why don't they do that?

Instead of giving someone a penalty for tapping another rider. He never

knocked Dani, he knocked a sensor off that knocked Dani off. He didn't

go into the side of Dani and I don't think that he should be punished.”


Spot on from Cal, the kid does always go outside, and he speaks the truth that MM is kicking their ..... and all they have left is to critisize like typical haters with no answers. 


Not surprised by the forum drama queen either, you don't see him going on his rants when it's Nicky and Dovi plowing the .... out of each other. 
 
povol
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Dang dude, that was dripping in sarcasm. I prefer Cal's statement


 


 


Until the kid torpedoes him, then he'll find a reason to explain why it was different and he is naughty boy.  Reminds me of VR calling Elias dangerous for essentially doing what he did.  


 
povol
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Fixed it for you


 


You are a special kind of dense buddy.  Fixed what exactly, me saying you would only object until your "opinion" is infringed?  Newsflash genius, even the most "learned" minds have their opposing "opinions" about what "rights" you get from our Constitution.  Even a 9 judge supreme court is often split.  You failed to see the logic in my post because as usual you fail to understand higher order thinking.  Ironic that you would call those opposing your opinion 'drama queens' when its your ilk that go buck wild .... crazy when you don't get your way.  Its exactly why the country is in its predicament.  You guys find a way to game the system, obstruct, and call to extremes when you didn't get your way...that is drama queening ........
 
14X
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Great rider and a snarky ...... to boot. I knew there was a reason I love you J-Lo!


 


Drat, ya beat me to the quote.


 


Deadpan sarcasm is something I've not heard before from Jorge. The Mamba has real venom, and I kinda like it.  :)
 
hawkdriver
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 Nicky and Dovi plowing the .... out of each other. 


 


Because these two have been doing it for a couple of years now, resulting in crashes, right moron?  These two have such a reputation for plowing into eachother, oh lord, why didn't we notice all along?    Its fascinating to see you and pov attempt to make the argument with examples that are disconnected from reality and logic.  
 
stiefel
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Massive respect for Lorenzo for having the balls to call them out on this .....


Sounds like sour grapes from a rider who is seeing his short lived reign disappear..I guess he was hoping to win the title on a tecnicality since he cant win it on the track. There was 2 people involved in the incident, and he aint one of them. If anyone has the right to be yapping, its Pedrosa. 
 
Jumkie
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Because these two have been doing it for a couple of years now, resulting in crashes, right moron?  These two have such a reputation for plowing into eachother, oh lord, why didn't we notice all along?    Its fascinating to see you and pov attempt to make the argument with examples that are disconnected from reality and logic.  


So you're fine with the way those two were racing each other with contact because no one crashed, hypocrite.
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana;font-size:small;Hayden insists that there is no ill will between he and Dovi, even though this is the second race in a row that has ended with the teammates pointing fingers.
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana;font-size:small;"They just wanted to review the last-corner incident between me and Dovi'" Hayden said. "Any time there is contact. It was racin' on the slowest corner on the track, so there is no deal between Dovi and me. No problem at all --just racin'."
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana;font-size:small;Dovi--seems like perhaps a pattern is emerging--saw it differently. He said, "Just Nicky hit me. That hit was a little bit too aggressive, I think, because he hit me. The door was closed. But anyway, I don't want to fight over that with Nicky because we didn't fight for the (finishing) position we wanted. We are not happy about the result,
 
Jumkie
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I'd like Race Direction to explain why if they penalized the manufacture for a poor design it was allowed to race at all. I'm laughing because i think Kropo was very effective in placing blame on Honda, so much so that Race Direction may have been moved to penalize them. The only problem is that if Race Direction is going to get in the business of penalizing manufactures for unsafe designs, shouldn't they step up before and not let the machine pass spec inspection? I mean, that's what they do with riders, right? That is, they must pass a bill of health to compete. Maybe Race Direction should penalize itself for allowing such an unsafe machine on the track that could have kill Pedrosa.


Why not penalize some of the CRT teams for being so slow and creating a track hazard as they have become mobile chicanes? How about some penalty points for leather companies, for allowing riders to get injured even though they now wear those inflatable suits. Isn't that a poor design? We should also bring the electronics companies into question, they deserve some penalty points, as they are allowing way too many highsides, something that the software is supposed to avoid. What about penalizing Spies team last year for allowing a swing-arm to crack? Surely that was a poor design. Not to mention that engine blowing up on the fast straight. That could have killed him and also made an unsafe condition on the surface, after all, engines blows are much more common than a once in a lifetime sensor cable being ripped off (by contact). There are lots of poor designs that are potentially hazardous in GP. Race Direction has a lot of work to do.


 


 


The other thing I'd like Race Direction to do is explain why Marc deserved a penalty point for this "slight touch" ( as many have described it) and the "torpedo" (or "slight touch" as some might describe it) at Jerez.  Are not all "slight touches" created equal?  


 


Good post, Jum.


 


What does not make sense is that Honda effectively penalised itself with their 'poor' design. Lost all all Dani's constructer's points, so it is a penalty on a penalty.


 


Race Direction's ruling (or Krop's interpretation of it is farcical). Aside from your examples, what of the front brake lines flapping around the fairing - vulnerable? The shift shaft with pressure transducer - vulnerable? The spinning dry clutch hanging out in the breeze looks like a good thing to jam my bar end into (fnarr).


And next time I see tyre chunking (most recently the Moto2 Dunlops), I expect there to be heavy penalties for sending out riders on equipment not fit for purpose


 


Then you get the trope that the loss of sensor 'sent the bike into full power mode'. It did, did it? It's nitpicking, but inability to sense rear wheel speed over-rides the gear-by-gear power limits, does it? But it suits his position of split cable - immediate power surge. Just as bad is the idea that 'most other manufacturers' have 2 sensors. Firstly, 'most' = Ducati. Secondly, are they redundant sensors? If not, no advantage. Thirdly, have a look at the woeful wire routing of the 2 Ducati sensors...and we are calling the Honda "vulnerable"??


 


And the main question is: Who signed the scrutineering sticker?
 
Jumkie
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I'd like Race Direction to explain why if they penalized the manufacture for a poor design it was allowed to race at all. I'm laughing because i think Kropo was very effective in placing blame on Honda, so much so that Race Direction may have been moved to penalize them. The only problem is that if Race Direction is going to get in the business of penalizing manufactures for unsafe designs, shouldn't they step up before and not let the machine pass spec inspection? I mean, that's what they do with riders, right? That is, they must pass a bill of health to compete. Maybe Race Direction should penalize itself for allowing such an unsafe machine on the track that could have kill Pedrosa.


Why not penalize some of the CRT teams for being so slow and creating a track hazard as they have become mobile chicanes? How about some penalty points for leather companies, for allowing riders to get injured even though they now wear those inflatable suits. Isn't that a poor design? We should also bring the electronics companies into question, they deserve some penalty points, as they are allowing way too many highsides, something that the software is supposed to avoid. What about penalizing Spies team last year for allowing a swing-arm to crack? Surely that was a poor design. Not to mention that engine blowing up on the fast straight. That could have killed him and also made an unsafe condition on the surface, after all, engines blows are much more common than a once in a lifetime sensor cable being ripped off (by contact). There are lots of poor designs that are potentially hazardous in GP. Race Direction has a lot of work to do.

 

 

The other thing I'd like Race Direction to do is explain why Marc deserved a penalty point for this "slight touch" ( as many have described it) and the "torpedo" (or "slight touch" as some might describe it) at Jerez.  Are not all "slight touches" created equal?  


Fried Gold Sir
 
Dr No
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Good post, Jum.


 


What does not make sense is that Honda effectively penalised itself with their 'poor' design. Lost all all Dani's constructer's points, so it is a penalty on a penalty.


 


Race Direction's ruling (or Krop's interpretation of it is farcical). Aside from your examples, what of the front brake lines flapping around the fairing - vulnerable? The shift shaft with pressure transducer - vulnerable? The spinning dry clutch hanging out in the breeze looks like a good thing to jam my bar end into (fnarr).


And next time I see tyre chunking (most recently the Moto2 Dunlops), I expect there to be heavy penalties for sending out riders on equipment not fit for purpose


 


Then you get the trope that the loss of sensor 'sent the bike into full power mode'. It did, did it? It's nitpicking, but inability to sense rear wheel speed over-rides the gear-by-gear power limits, does it? But it suits his position of split cable - immediate power surge. Just as bad is the idea that 'most other manufacturers' have 2 sensors. Firstly, 'most' = Ducati. Secondly, are they redundant sensors? If not, no advantage. Thirdly, have a look at the woeful wire routing of the 2 Ducati sensors...and we are calling the Honda "vulnerable"??


 


And the main question is: Who signed the scrutineering sticker?


 


I'm pretty sure that only one rider can earn constructor's points for any given manufacturer.  In this case, they dropped Markie's 25 and picked up 13 from Torpista.


 


As for the sensor location, I'm not sure a vulnerable sensor implies a dangerous bike.  Smarter HRC firmware would have detected Dani's AWOL sensor signal and engaged Plan B (Inflate the air bags and fire the ejection seat!)
 
povol
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Sounds like sour grapes from a rider who is seeing his short lived reign disappear..I guess he was hoping to win the title on a tecnicality since he cant win it on the track. There was 2 people involved in the incident, and he aint one of them. If anyone has the right to be yapping, its Pedrosa. 


 


Agreed, and if Lorenzo did really have the balls to call them out he wouldn't have to have made the statement sarcastic.
 

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