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No, no - way more illustrious. Digger wouldn't even be worthy of polishing this guys visor. His command of a bike transcends mere body position alone - it's mind control.
(He'll probably be back on in a few minutes time).
No, no - way more illustrious. Digger wouldn't even be worthy of polishing this guys visor. His command of a bike transcends mere body position alone - it's mind control.
(He'll probably be back on in a few minutes time).
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1. Big difference between imparting a message to a rookie kid after a near miss: hey, dont go trying to murder somebody as u have multiple times in the past, this is the big leagues VS. you can not pass a guy. But U've used a "/" as if there was no difference. 2. They've disappeared because Pedro disappeared, so irs a moot point. 3. HRC can't contemplate it because they have no, none, zero, choice in the matter. But if they did I'd bet my left nut they gladdly provide a wildcard ride.
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I don't dislike MM. I rather think highly of him. Stoner however brings a completely different element to the series. I didn't always share Casey's preferred delivery technique, but his opinions mattered and he with great regularity backed up his words with solid action. The series is not in any way better without him in my opinion.
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I don't dislike MM. I rather think highly of him. Stoner however brings a completely different element to the series. I didn't always share Casey's preferred delivery technique, but his opinions mattered and he with great regularity backed up his words with solid action. The series is not in any way better without him in my opinion.
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...Nahh, they disappeared when Marc passed him at Assen irrespective of his capitulation. Plus, Pedrosa's recent poor form aside, the awkward fact that Marc is now leading the championship.
Some were suggesting that it was more than just 'a word' from HRC..that it was a directive culminating in team orders. All this divined by Marc's failure to pass Dani at Catalunya, perhaps the hardest circuit to pass, having cooly despatched him at Austin. I absolutely guarantee you that the powers that be at HRC deem Marquez equally as capable of winning this championship in his maiden year and have held that view before he so much as turned a wheel of the RCV213v in anger. In fact, I'd venture further that HRC may not only lean towards the left hand side of the garage - but would prefer it if he did win it over Dani..(and there are many reasons why I suggest that to be the case). They are clearly fighting his corner and in secret they love his pugilistic approach to riding. The suggestion that he has been told to curtail this and handle Pedrosa with kid gloves as opposed to his customary boxing gloves and that this is clearly reflected in a restraint and distance around him on track is perhaps the most ludicrous thing I've read on here since Babel's X Ray analysis of Casey's Desmo at Assen.
Actually when Dani returns to form, which assuredly he will and if the season goes to the wire, the gloves will be off. I genuinely look forward to the re-emergence of these posts and duly, dutifully and deservedly debunking and denigrating them.
...Nahh, they disappeared when Marc passed him at Assen irrespective of his capitulation. Plus, Pedrosa's recent poor form aside, the awkward fact that Marc is now leading the championship.
Some were suggesting that it was more than just 'a word' from HRC..that it was a directive culminating in team orders. All this divined by Marc's failure to pass Dani at Catalunya, perhaps the hardest circuit to pass, having cooly despatched him at Austin. I absolutely guarantee you that the powers that be at HRC deem Marquez equally as capable of winning this championship in his maiden year and have held that view before he so much as turned a wheel of the RCV213v in anger. In fact, I'd venture further that HRC may not only lean towards the left hand side of the garage - but would prefer it if he did win it over Dani..(and there are many reasons why I suggest that to be the case). They are clearly fighting his corner and in secret they love his pugilistic approach to riding. The suggestion that he has been told to curtail this and handle Pedrosa with kid gloves as opposed to his customary boxing gloves and that this is clearly reflected in a restraint and distance around him on track is perhaps the most ludicrous thing I've read on here since Babel's X Ray analysis of Casey's Desmo at Assen.
Actually when Dani returns to form, which assuredly he will and if the season goes to the wire, the gloves will be off. I genuinely look forward to the re-emergence of these posts and duly, dutifully and deservedly debunking and denigrating them.
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Sorry, the guy you are talking about is currently undertaking a solo mission to Mars. He ain't available
It's one small step for BM, one vast leap for mankind
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I find it the opposite. You back up your .... talking by taking home the big trophy at the end of the year. Stoner had an awful lot to say for a guy who only won on a transition year when everyone was a step behind and the year when he was given the best bike on the grid.
His career should be a case study on failure not success.
He was inarguably the greatest talent on the grid the last 7 years, but failed to win when it mattered most
I find it the opposite. You back up your .... talking by taking home the big trophy at the end of the year. Stoner had an awful lot to say for a guy who only won on a transition year when everyone was a step behind and the year when he was given the best bike on the grid.
His career should be a case study on failure not success.
He was inarguably the greatest talent on the grid the last 7 years, but failed to win when it mattered most
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So why did it not matter when he won in 2007 and 2011 (the only 800 titles for either Ducati or Honda, or title of any description for Ducati, which I suspect mattered rather a lot to them) and why did he have to win more championships than Rossi or Lorenzo to "not fail", particularly given 4 of his 7 years were on a Ducati which did not lead a lap let alone win a race ridden by anyone else, other than a single wet-dry race he didn't need to win anyway, and 1 of the other 3, his rookie year, was for a new satellite team without SNS michelins, again a situation in which nobody else could win?
If you don't like him, you don't like him (and yes, I am aware you don't like him) but his premier class career was hardly a failure.
So why did it not matter when he won in 2007 and 2011 (the only 800 titles for either Ducati or Honda, or title of any description for Ducati, which I suspect mattered rather a lot to them) and why did he have to win more championships than Rossi or Lorenzo to "not fail", particularly given 4 of his 7 years were on a Ducati which did not lead a lap let alone win a race ridden by anyone else, other than a single wet-dry race he didn't need to win anyway, and 1 of the other 3, his rookie year, was for a new satellite team without SNS michelins, again a situation in which nobody else could win?
If you don't like him, you don't like him (and yes, I am aware you don't like him) but his premier class career was hardly a failure.
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Your question is so sophmorically pedantic, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Try harder.
Your question is so sophmorically pedantic, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Try harder.
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Your replies are always the same.
Your quick to call someone a fool who doesnt share your opinion rather then trying to view the problem from both sides and debate it.
Fact: stoner was the most gifted athlete in his sport during his tenure
Fact: he was only able to beat his lesser competitors twice.
Hes the James Stewart of GP. The fastest man on the planet but career wise viewed as a failure
Your replies are always the same.
Your quick to call someone a fool who doesnt share your opinion rather then trying to view the problem from both sides and debate it.
Fact: stoner was the most gifted athlete in his sport during his tenure
Fact: he was only able to beat his lesser competitors twice.
Hes the James Stewart of GP. The fastest man on the planet but career wise viewed as a failure
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Mattered most to who? You?
How many championships has Rossi won on the Ducati that Stoner took to so many victories?
One could use your fuzzy logic and say, given that Rossi having been feted so often and so well
for winning on different bikes, was particularly disappointing because he was incapable of
winning on the same bike as Stoner, when it mattered most to his adoring fans.
Only? How many MGP championships has Pedrosa won on the best bike in the class?
Mattered most to who? You?
How many championships has Rossi won on the Ducati that Stoner took to so many victories?
One could use your fuzzy logic and say, given that Rossi having been feted so often and so well
for winning on different bikes, was particularly disappointing because he was incapable of
winning on the same bike as Stoner, when it mattered most to his adoring fans.
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How do you expect anyone to take you seriously while making statements that are pure nonsense. 4th all time in wins, and 2 championships in 7 years. Thats failure ? Lets here your success story, because it must be something if you consider Casey Stoner to be a failure. You are one sad little Uccio.
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously while making statements that are pure nonsense. 4th all time in wins, and 2 championships in 7 years. Thats failure ? Lets here your success story, because it must be something if you consider Casey Stoner to be a failure. You are one sad little Uccio.
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There is no other side to your post. It's a straw-man argument. You're implying that Stoner doing some testing
for his former employers means ergo - he misses the circus. Stoner never said he hated riding the world's best
motorcycles - he just hated the politics and being paraded around on the endorsement circuit - and the media
soap opera.
Oh... and I never said you were a fool.
There is no other side to your post. It's a straw-man argument. You're implying that Stoner doing some testing
for his former employers means ergo - he misses the circus. Stoner never said he hated riding the world's best
motorcycles - he just hated the politics and being paraded around on the endorsement circuit - and the media
soap opera.
Oh... and I never said you were a fool.
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JohnnyKnockdown Location:Miami <<< That explains a lot.............................
JohnnyKnockdown
JohnnyKnockdown Location:Miami <<< That explains a lot.............................
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if stoner is stewart (ironically one of my fave crossers), i reall DON'T want to know who rossi and lorenzo are in this analogy..
almost decent trolling judging by the reaction though
almost decent trolling judging by the reaction though
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Nope!
Nope!
