Stoner to test Honda

michaelm · Jul 29, 2013

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Yep, that is about right actually.

So far he has flat spotted and then blown a tyre, been involved in others accidents, been turned around by another (who was penalised) and yet, for his first year in the sport he is running very close times to the likes of Owen and Wood who have plenty of experience.

To be fair with regards to the paperclip track it was probably a very good sample of what he can do when at a track that he knows as it was the only track he had been to previously (apparently)

I have to say even if he was winning the championship in the senior class I would still consider him to be demeaning himself by competing in V8 supercar racing at all, despite being like you a major fan of the non- ersatz Nascar tin top racing in Australia in my youth.

Keshav · Jul 29, 2013

Kind of like working one's way to the top of the list of world's leading cardiologists and then taking up an office is some rural town and hanging up a Podiatrist's shingle.

michaelm · Jul 29, 2013

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Kind of like working one's way to the top of the list of world's leading cardiologists and then taking up an office is some rural town and hanging up a Podiatrist's shingle.

Yes. If he was a good podiatrist and enjoyed doing it that wouldn't be so bad though. I am not sure that i would extend the analogy so far in regard to V8 supercar racing.

Mental Anarchist · Jul 29, 2013

Personally I think Stoner does exactly what ever he wants to do. He wants to race V8's so he does. He wanted to leave MotoGP so he did. I don't think he requires permission or approval from anyone but his family. I envy him.

I also think he has been quite respectful of those who have worked their way up in 4 wheel racing. He didn't try to use his legend status to waltz into the main game. He is doing his time in the 2nd tier and he recently declared he would not race the enduro's cause he felt he wasn't ready and didn't want to ruin a 1st tier drivers race by making a mistake.

I am not really a fan of any type of car racing but V8's is a professional, well run series that is racing several races overseas now. They must be doing something right. They have full grids and lots of sponsors which can't be said of the 2 wheeled pinnacle and the series is almost more international than MotoSPAIN.

stiefel · Jul 29, 2013

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Yes. If he was a good podiatrist and enjoyed doing it that wouldn't be so bad though.

He just needs to grow a heavy right foot.

michaelm · Jul 29, 2013

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Personally I think Stoner does exactly what ever he wants to do. He wants to race V8's so he does. He wanted to leave MotoGP so he did. I don't think he requires permission or approval from anyone but his family. I envy him.

I also think he has been quite respectful of those who have worked their way up in 4 wheel racing. He didn't try to use his legend status to waltz into the main game. He is doing his time in the 2nd tier and he recently declared he would not race the enduro's cause he felt he wasn't ready and didn't want to ruin a 1st tier drivers race by making a mistake.

I am not really a fan of any type of car racing but V8's is a professional, well run series that is racing several races overseas now. They must be doing something right. They have full grids and lots of sponsors which can't be said of the 2 wheeled pinnacle and the series is almost more international than MotoSPAIN.

I am somewhat like you as even my interest in F1 is waning. However, I have specific objections to V8 supercars, particularly to the punt off the track mid corner being such a major overtaking move, and like Nascar etc to some of the yellow flags, which seem to conveniently produce a last lap scrap artificially. Perhaps with rose coloured glasses, I remember passing manoeuvres being of a higher standard in my youth, and as with GP bike racing if someone is good enough to win by a distance I don't think they should be artifically constrained from doing so, and nor imo should they lose an advantage built up over near race distance capriciously.

I agree with your comments about Stoner not being bigheaded in his approach to V8 supercars, although he is reputed to have some of the same reservations I do about driving standards.

JohnnyKnockdown · Jul 29, 2013

Keshav

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Kind of like working one's way to the top of the list of world's leading cardiologists and then taking up an office is some rural town and hanging up a Podiatrist's shingle.

If Stoner was a doctor in no way could he be a cardiologist. He would have to know something about heart in order to do that job.

He would be better suited as a proctologist. There's nobody better at ... than him

whammy · Jul 29, 2013

Giving JKD a point for the linking process

Personally I would rather he be in MotoGP and if he fails at V8's then

maybe he will come back. He pushed the boundaries of what can be done

on a bike and exploited some areas of every track he raced on. I feel

that he could give more to MotoGP and by his own words he still like to

ride and push MotoGP bikes to their limits.

Stoner's problem was never on the track. It was dealing with things that

he had no control over off the track. The press, DORNA, Honda, fans,

sponsers and the internet - yep twitter and forums. He never found a way

to deal with those things. Rossi does clown Hayden does yes man

Edwards does gross Bradl does zip it Marquez does grin and poor Stoner

never found a way to deal with his off track problems. And they festered

inside him. Every one sensed it by looking at his troubled face so they all

attacked him and drove him away. I miss him and wish he was back.

When he is on a bike and pushing the limits it is a beautiful thing to see.

Rocket Knight · Jul 29, 2013

I agree. Stoner never did much for me personality wise, but watching him race was definitely an art form.

thedeal · Jul 29, 2013

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I have to say even if he was winning the championship in the senior class I would still consider him to be demeaning himself by competing in V8 supercar racing at all, despite being like you a major fan of the non- ersatz Nascar tin top racing in Australia in my youth.

A multi millionaire, two time Moto gp champion doing what he wants with his life, but YOU say he is demeaning himself, your arrogance is shocking.

michaelm · Jul 29, 2013

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A multi millionaire, two time Moto gp champion doing what he wants with his life, but YOU say he is demeaning himself, your arrogance is shocking.

My criticism is of V8 super car racing rather than him, and of the passing and other skills of most of the current riders in comparison with Moffat, Brock, Bond etc whom I followed in my youth. Take it however you like though, and I probably am arrogant whether or not for this reason.

Sloth_27 · Jul 30, 2013

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I am not really a fan of any type of car racing but V8's is a professional, well run series that is racing several races overseas now. They must be doing something right. They have full grids and lots of sponsors which can't be said of the 2 wheeled pinnacle and the series is almost more international than MotoSPAIN.

NASCAR is more successful than V8 Supercars but it is still a pile of .... form of motorsport. V8's is full of paying drivers who are absolutely rubbish drivers, hence why the same couple of drivers wipe the floor with them each weekend. But it appeals to flag waving fans who like to see crashes and cars bumping each other off the track.

I doubt Stoner actually likes racing the cars at all. They are big and heavy and unrefined and about as far from MotoGP as you can get. I'd like to see him get involved with helping out some young Australian riders make the step up to racing in Europe. He was sponsoring one local kid a couple of years ago.

Mental Anarchist · Jul 30, 2013

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NASCAR is more successful than V8 Supercars but it is still a pile of .... form of motorsport. V8's is full of paying drivers who are absolutely rubbish drivers, hence why the same couple of drivers wipe the floor with them each weekend. But it appeals to flag waving fans who like to see crashes and cars bumping each other off the track.

I doubt Stoner actually likes racing the cars at all. They are big and heavy and unrefined and about as far from MotoGP as you can get. I'd like to see him get involved with helping out some young Australian riders make the step up to racing in Europe. He was sponsoring one local kid a couple of years ago.

V8's is just a few years ahead of MotoGP. It won't be long before MotoGP is nothing more than entertainment just like NASCAR and V8's.

It is interesting that you suggest that V8 is .... Motorsport with paying drivers and the same few drivers winning week in week out. Last time I checked that was a spot on definition of MotoGP. In fact V8's have significantly more race winners than MotoGP. They also have 2 full grids of cars all with fully painted sponsorship logos. The championship winning bike in MotoGP can't even get a title sponsor for how many years now? MotoGP is currently in the process of dumbing down the bikes, inventing rules to reduce advantages and increase parity (spec tyres, spec ECU, spec bore). MotoGP is losing manufacturers, V8's are bringing in new ones (Nissan and Merc this year, Volvo next year). MotoGP fans have been complaining about the racing being too nice and want to see more bashing fairings.

I know it is easy to slag .... but don't be so blind as to what MotoGP is and is becoming. V8's isn't some awesome form of Motorsport but it is successful it is well supported by participants and spectators and in my opinion deserves some repect.

Surely you have realised by now that Stoner does not believe in bike racing at present. Why do you think he turned down offers of 15million euro to ride for one season? Yet you want him to support Aussie kids to go over there! Seriously????

yamaka46 · Jul 30, 2013

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Went to V8 Supercars at Ipswich today. Stoner was very impressive. Started the first race of day from 17th on grid. Finished 2nd and final race of the day in 6th. He was clearly fast. Made decisive clean moves to work his way forward in tricky conditions with both races started on slicks immediately following brief showers whilst on the grid. When he had clear track he was running the pace of the leaders or better and only 0.8sec off the times of the main series front runners.

I would be surprised if Stoner is not winning races next season.

I hadn't realised you were QLD based - Qld Raceway is less than 30 mins from me (when at home in Boonah, as opposed to near Coventry, UK working for Jaguar Land Rover atm

) - where are you based?

Mental Anarchist · Jul 30, 2013

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I hadn't realised you were QLD based - Qld Raceway is less than 30 mins from me (when at home in Boonah, as opposed to near Coventry, UK working for Jaguar Land Rover atm ) - where are you based?

PM sent.

BJ.C · Jul 30, 2013

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Dont worry Whammy.

BJC is our resident wikipedia guru. Everything you read by him has been boosted from wiki.

He employs the chickenshit button on everyone so dont feel offended or special that your being ignored.

Nope, only one ignore so far - now two.

What are you doing replying to your own construct?

Nice to be called a guru, but I rarely, if ever, use Wiki - it's written by people like you.

Jumkie · Jul 30, 2013

JohnnyKnockdown said:
Here is the transcript from the call HRC made to Stoner.
HRC-Hello Stoner san. Good to speak with you today
Stoner-What do you want?
HRC- I trust that everything is going splendidly in your isolated retirement. How is your lovely wife and child?
Stoner- Hold on just a moment the music is a bit loud in here I need to turn it down (Background music playing I still haven't found what I'm looking for by U2)................................ Ok im back and can hear better now. I'm annoyed because you interrupted my favorite song
Adriana is fine. She's made the transition from groupie to wife quite well.
The ....... baby is driving me nuts all it does is moan and cry and sook all ....... day long and it gets all the attention in the house.
Doesnt that baby understand that I am the man of the house and it should obey me unquestionably.
HRC- well Casey I have an offer for you it could take you away from all that stress for a short time
Stoner- Im listening
HRC- We want you to come to Motegi to test and help develop our new GP bike. I know you've been busy relaxing in isolation all over Australia and America but we really need your help
Stoner- Does this require me to travel?
HRC. Yes Casey the track is in Japan
Stoner- Japan is radioactive and Im not going there
HRC-It is safe there is no radioactivity in the air
Stoner- Well It can't be safe for my wife and the baby and when I get there I may find out that I was too busy to be there in the first place
HRC- It would be better if you came alone it's only a short trip
Stoner- WHAT!! I can't be without my mommy, I mean wife.
HRC-I tell you what, we will build an invisible cocoon that will surround her and the baby the entire trip. Nobody will be able to see it but our engineers.
Stoner- Ahh invisible huh. Kinda like Mark Marquez's rulebook?
HRC- yes kind of like that.
We wish you to test some new components we have designed. We want a bike that replicates your performance last year. We have changed the handlebars, we are now going to use the cruiser type bars used on Hondas Harley replicas.
We want to improve upon the lean angle capability of the bike. Here is the reason for our design. Remember the old merry-go-round's that you could lean over and grab a brass ring?
Stoner- Yes, like in Willy Wonka my favorite movie. Mmmmmmm candy
HRC- exactly. We are proposing to Dorna, to build on each corner a machine that holds out paychecks for the rider to grab as he rides by.
So We need your input on designing a bike that built for cruising around and collecting paychecks similar to your 2012 RCV
Stoner: Crikey! There's nobody better at that than me
HRC- Precisely. Now will you make the trip?
Stoner- On one condition I want the bump and his entire baby bump family to be crushed
HRC- Casey the poor little bump has done nothing to anybody. You're the only one who is ever had a beef with the bump. He is part of the Motegi family.
Stoner- Well then I'm not coming
HRC- I'll tell you what. We'll sweeten the deal for you. Will throw in a fishing trip. You can go out on one of our harpoon boats and kill as many whales and dolphins as you want.
Stoner- Oh hell yeah I'm in. Just one more thing this is a test session so it won't be publicized right? I hate being in the media.
HRC-No it will be a private session
Stoner-Okay great. Just make sure you hold a press conference so everybody knows I'm going to be there
HRC- Anything for you Casey san

Hate him or hate him, u know this .... was funny.

Jumkie · Jul 30, 2013

BJ.C said:
Nope, only one ignore so far - now two.

Oh shut up. U know u done have anybody on ur chicken .... ignore button. U keep replying to all the peeps supposedly on ur phantom ignore list.

mario27 · Aug 7, 2013

thedeal · Aug 7, 2013

He has no interest in wildcard rides or returning to moto gp

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