Motogp: 2016 Round 3 Red Bull Grand Prix of The Americas

povol said:

Apparently Marquez has been sand bagging, well according to you know who.Does this mother ...... ever just shut the .... up. Dude, news flash, mind games are not working, uh well maybe they are if a 3 time and defending champion can be swayed into leaving the best bike on the grid to prove his onion size to his teammate. Lets say they are not working on Marquez.

Marquez ?plays tactics? when talking about Honda ? Rossi

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Sounds like the Kool Aid has turned sour.

I dont know ............ maybe its time somebody just comes out and says it .......



Rossi sucks. He always did. And always will do.

povol said:

Apparently Marquez has been sand bagging, well according to you know who.Does this mother ...... ever just shut the .... up. Dude, news flash, mind games are not working, uh well maybe they are if a 3 time and defending champion can be swayed into leaving the best bike on the grid to prove his onion size to his teammate. Lets say they are not working on Marquez.

Marquez ?plays tactics? when talking about Honda ? Rossi

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When I read .... like this I want to think it's a joke, or it's a bad translation. Beginning to think Rossi is getting early dementia.

This has nothing to do with dementia or anything of the like.

This is the real Valentino Rossi we are now seeing. It took him realizing and being unable to prevent his 8th title --this 9-times or 10th title .... needs to .... off since MM is referred too as a double world champion and JL a triple world champion-- from slipping away because he simply wasn't fast enough, for all of this to finally come out on a much larger, and much uglier scale.

He lost control of the narrative, and the mask slipped completely.

The hardest thing for any athlete to accept is their time has passed.

But now imagine being "the anointed one" and suddenly coming face to face with another competitor who represents everything people thought about you when you were young...only...he doesn't need any advantage handed to him the way you needed it...and on top of that, he's fast. Actually he's faster than you ever were around the track on the best day of your life. Then on top of that, he saw you as an idol but didn't think twice about challenging you. Now he sees you as a has-been, much the way you once looked at another Italian competitor in what seems like a lifetime ago. Worst of all...he doesn't buy into your myth, your mind games, or any of your ...........and every time you open your mouth, he finds another few tenths to shove down your throat. You're just treading water hoping somehow fate decides to roll something other than snake eyes when you are up looking for a favorable result.

That has to sting like a ......

JPSLotus said:

This has nothing to do with dementia or anything of the like.

This is the real Valentino Rossi we are now seeing. It took him realizing and being unable to prevent his 8th title --this 9-times or 10th title .... needs to .... off since MM is referred too as a double world champion and JL a triple world champion-- from slipping away because he simply wasn't fast enough, for all of this to finally come out on a much larger, and much uglier scale.

He lost control of the narrative, and the mask slipped completely.

The hardest thing for any athlete to accept is their time has passed.

But now imagine being "the anointed one" and suddenly coming face to face with another competitor who represents everything people thought about you when you were young...only...he doesn't need any advantage handed to him the way you needed it...and on top of that, he's fast. Actually he's faster than you ever were around the track on the best day of your life. Then on top of that, he saw you as an idol but didn't think twice about challenging you. Now he sees you as a has-been, much the way you once looked at another Italian competitor in what seems like a lifetime ago. Worst of all...he doesn't buy into your myth, your mind games, or any of your ...........and every time you open your mouth, he finds another few tenths to shove down your throat. You're just treading water hoping somehow fate decides to roll something other than snake eyes when you are up looking for a favorable result.

That has to sting like a ......

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That was poetic. Nicely put
Peyton Manning went from lighting up the world at 37, to barely managing games at 38. That is a precarious year for an athlete. Im not saying Rossi is over the hill but there is an increasing likelyhood that the summit is within sight. His sherpa M1 has been carrying him for years. If we start seeing more crashes like last week I would suspect age may be a factor. I think it would be hilarious if Yamaha is stuck with an aging rider whos days are clearly past for the next 3 years. Serves them right for their actions or lack of actions the last 6 months.
Its going to be a long time before we see Yamaha win another championship

MdubSTYLIE said:

Agreed. Losing Lorenzo for Rossi is a disaster for Yamaha. They might as well hire Miguel Duhamel to be his teammate next year. That should build Rossi some confidence. Although thats never been something he lacks.

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Jarvis will hire whoever Rossi tells him to if he's managed to oust Lorenzo. He will be an insufferable prick like no other, posing and preening for the cameras.
The old Italian queen will think he's on top of the world throwing his weight around in the Yamaha garage.
Pity the poor sap who goes there if Lorenzo leaves, they won't be allowed to challenge Rossi's superiority that's for sure!

Clearly Yamaha were not hanging on to Rossi because they thought of contesting the championship with him, but rather marketing, i think we all agree. Seriously, who thinks they offered a contract to Rossi because they thought he was their best shot at a title? Parallel, nobody honestly thinks Pedrosa's last contract was offered to him because HRC believed he was their best shot at the title, right? Surely they didn't calculate Lorenzo leaving if their only aim was contending for a title! If winning the title was their first priority, then they royally ...... up! Because if this were their aim, obviously they've clearly mismanaged the situation.

If Yamaha wanted both riders they didn't leverage their power, nor do the necessary management to keep them both, and this happened because they completely blundered the balance of power they had to negotiate with each of the riders effectively. It looks like they figured Lorenzo would stay on the basis of the machine rather than the other important principles of dignity and respectable human relationships. Yamaha were stupid to kowtow to Rossi, he was always going to stay, he had no choice! Yamaha .... away any leverage they had to keep both riders. I bet Yamaha were surprised with Rossi signing the contract as the pages came out of the printer. Talk about misreading the negotiation. There was no reason to negotiate with both riders at the same time, nor offer contracts simultaneously. They should have wrapped up Lorenzo first, he was the only one with options! Instead they gave him the opportunity to go entertain Ducati; who obviously were going to promise Lorenzo the world. Not only that, but Yamaha provided the impetus for Lorenzo to be more receptive to Ducati. What were Yamaha thinking when they offered a contract to 'the Yellow People's Champion' at the same time they offered one to 'the World Champion'? One of those titles is fake.

Piss poor negotiation! Yamaha pissed away all their leverage. I think they could have held on to both. They could have offered a contract to Lorenzo and talked him up publicly for 3 months while keeping Rossi in a holding pattern. This would have gone a long way to convince Lorenzo to stay. Then after they got Lorenzo to resign (or not) only then they needed to offer the contract to Rossi (who any ..... paying attention would have utterly known Rossi was going to sign). I don't know if I'm getting my point across, I know I can be long winded and repetitious, what I'm saying is, there was only one guy they 'needed' to 'negotiate' with. The other guy was going to stay no matter what.

Now Yamaha have to hope Marquez or Honda get it wrong. With Lorenzo they had the championship in their control. If Yamaha did their job of putting together a great machine they could rely on Lorenzo to do his job. Now with Rossi Yamaha have to hope and rely Honda or Marquez ..... up. There is absolutely no way Viñalez beats Marquez on equal footing.

Sherpa M1.

How long will it be before Vinales starts beating Rossi, and how long after that will the treatment start. I hope Vinales and his agent don't get star struck during negotiations and get iron clad stipulations that he receives equal equipment at the same time as Rossi. There is no doubt Rossi will try to manipulate Vinales, but if the kid has the balls to walk on a team in the middle of a championship, he can tell Rossi to .... off. I think Vinales will be all over Rossi from the get go and beat him on a regular basis

Sherpa M1...haha you guys crack me up.

Oh hey look, the big old gang circle jerking over Rossis case again, it's beautiful guys keep on going!

APEX said:

Oh hey look, the big old gang circle jerking over Rossis case again, it's beautiful guys keep on going!

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Your boy seems to be engaging in onanism fairly full time himself recently. Even shed the girlfriend.

michaelm said:

Even shed the girlfriend.

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Wasn't that inevitable consequence of the recent Civil Union with Talps/Paparazzo?

Some of our pictures from Austin with various folk!

Tito in leather! Nice!

Motokitty said:

Tito in leather! Nice!

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Nice guy Apart fro Jorge , my favourite man of the weekend was John Mcfee who we talked to several times and is just so nice , bless him .

More pics, Inside Cal's garage, Chris's dolly bird pic , me trying to get Vale autograph then i got bored trying etc Our mate Andy's pic of the champagne shower he got ( wearing JL(( gear ) lol

Hey Libby, love the pics, much appreciated thank you.
Do you have one standing with Dani?

Great pics, libby! I can't wait for the next race!

Fantastic pics. Thanks for sharing. Looks like you were really close to the action.

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