Motogp: 2016 Round 3 Red Bull Grand Prix of The Americas

tps7c said:

Listen guys, you said my bopper mentality towards Rossi is unwarranted. Ok, I'll take that under consideration.

I would ask you to consider this: All racers have huge egos, it's in the nature of what they do. They have to, in order to risk what they do every race. And by big ego I don't mean they are conceited ........, but they are just filled with machismo and bravado, etc. So here comes Marc, a rider who could definitely have the potential to knock off all of Vale's records. You guys REALLY believe that no part of Marc would not want to see Vale get his 10th overall title, thereby making it a bit easier for himself to beat those records?

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tps7c said:

This is simply an opinion of course, but based on what JLO said after Valencia, I would think Marc being a Spaniard would slant him towards helping JL with the championship. I'm not saying this was Marc's intentions earlier in the season, however.

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michaelm said:

Now we have it. Despite supposedly deploring Rossi's late season 2015 antics you are really a fully paid up member of the Church of Rossi and totally on board with the articles of faith including his conspiracy theories about the 2015 title.

MM can do whatever he likes as long as he races legally and fairly, and there is more than ample precedent for non- contenders racing contenders, including Rossi himself at Motegi 2010 and Edwards at Estoril 2006. The late season "Rossi rules" which VR wished to introduce were purely of his own recent invention.

One of the problems you evangelists for the Church Of the Yellow Deity have is that you have never managed to attract an Aquinas figure to give you an even vaguely consistent theology. Your best bet imo would probably be to convert Kropotkin, but I fear he is an agnostic.

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yamfan said:

All your opinions seem to slant towards yellow my friend. As your excellent picture of a "yellow" move by Rossi at Motegi, Japan 2010 shows, he did slam into Lorenzo in a clear attempt to run him off track, history repeats itself again as Rossi's halo slips once more.
That move was done of pure malice as Lorenzo was already out of sight in the championship and Rossi had no part in it.
Think back to Sepang where Rossi claimed an unwritten rule decreed that riders not involved in a title battle should not interfere with ones who are. After "that" move you're so proud of, Yamaha told Rossi he should not be pulling moves like that on his "team mate" as he was in contention for the title. An unrepentant Rossi "petulantly" replied "so if I am not allowed to race I might as well stay at home".
Was Rossi guilty of exactly what he accused Marquez of, riding in such a manner to influence a title he had no part in? ABSOLUTELY HE WAS!
Was a fatwa and a vendetta from fans raised against him that would still be going? NO BECAUSE ITS VALE!
I'd be interested in your slanted opinion on this matey, without insults or sidestepping the issue too, just this incident.

Lorenzo had the last laugh that time too by the way, settling a record total points haul that still holds today. Vale hasn't got a hope of taking that record, funnily enough because it's Lorenzo's record the yellow folks don't recognise that one....



Yamfan, it's too for late for me. I'm already in too deep lol...I can't be saved.

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tps7c said:

yamfan said:

All your opinions seem to slant towards yellow my friend. As your excellent picture of a "yellow" move by Rossi at Motegi, Japan 2010 shows, he did slam into Lorenzo in a clear attempt to run him off track, history repeats itself again as Rossi's halo slips once more.
That move was done of pure malice as Lorenzo was already out of sight in the championship and Rossi had no part in it.
Think back to Sepang where Rossi claimed an unwritten rule decreed that riders not involved in a title battle should not interfere with ones who are. After "that" move you're so proud of, Yamaha told Rossi he should not be pulling moves like that on his "team mate" as he was in contention for the title. An unrepentant Rossi "petulantly" replied "so if I am not allowed to race I might as well stay at home".
Was Rossi guilty of exactly what he accused Marquez of, riding in such a manner to influence a title he had no part in? ABSOLUTELY HE WAS!
Was a fatwa and a vendetta from fans raised against him that would still be going? NO BECAUSE ITS VALE!
I'd be interested in your slanted opinion on this matey, without insults or sidestepping the issue too, just this incident.

Lorenzo had the last laugh that time too by the way, settling a record total points haul that still holds today. Vale hasn't got a hope of taking that record, funnily enough because it's Lorenzo's record the yellow folks don't recognise that one....



Yamfan, it's too for late for me. I'm already in too deep lol...I can't be saved.

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Again mate you're sidestepping the question, if your opinion that Marc is guilty, was Vale not guilty of the same crime?
Either that or as Vale, unrepentant claimed he had nothing to apologise for, if this is the case then Marc has no crime to be accountable for.
Either or, you can't have it both ways...

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yamfan said:

tps7c said:

Again mate you're sidestepping the question, if your opinion that Marc is guilty, was Vale not guilty of the same crime?
Either that or as Vale, unrepentant claimed he had nothing to apologise for, if this is the case then Marc has no crime to be accountable for.
Either or, you can't have it both ways...

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The difference is that JLo was up by 69 points or something like that at the time. Mattered not for the championship.

Marc however, created more damage.

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tps7c said:

yamfan said:

The difference is that JLo was up by 69 points or something like that at the time. Mattered not for the championship.



Marc however, created more damage.

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Rubbish, if Vale put Jorge off and injured him, then the title could be lost, hence Yamaha's annoyance at Vale.
Try harder, that's just a slanted view only considering one side of the argument.

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tps7c said:

Oh there has never been a dispute as to my believing the conspiracy theories of 2015. Never once did I deny that. Just like you believe the SNS conspiracy theory, etc.

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yamfan said:

tps7c said:

Rubbish, if Vale put Jorge off and injured him, then the title could be lost, hence Yamaha's annoyance at Vale.
Try harder, that's just a slanted view only considering one side of the argument.

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Didn't you say JLo was tough as nails?

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michaelm said:

Again, you obviously can't read. I have said several times that they existed which isn't theoretical, that Rossi probably had the most significant input into them which also isn't theoretical, and nor was either of these things due to a conspiracy, but also that it is my personal belief they gave him little or no advantage over his main competitors.

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tps7c said:

yamfan said:

Didn't you say JLo was tough as nails?

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No, someone said Marquez is earlier.

You're still sidestepping the question aren't you?

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tps7c said:

yamfan said:

The difference is that JLo was up by 69 points or something like that at the time. Mattered not for the championship.

Marc however, created more damage.

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Total BS

How many possible points did VR lose that year as a result of his broken leg?

Whilst 69 points is not a small margin, the championship was still 'live' and thus VR did indeed race JL when VR was not within the championship hunt.

Mick Doohan once lost a title from a near 50 point title lead due to a broken (destroyed) leg so no matter how large the margin, it only takes one fall.

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yamfan said:

tps7c said:

No, someone said Marquez is earlier.

You're still sidestepping the question aren't you?

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I already answered it a few posts back.

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yamfan said:

tps7c said:

No, someone said Marquez is earlier.

You're still sidestepping the question aren't you?

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And you won't get a straight answer from this point forward yamfan. He or she will just shut the piehole and take a .... somewhere else.

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baturro said:

yamfan said:

And you won't get a straight answer from this point forward yamfan. He or she will just shut the piehole and take a .... somewhere else.

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I already answered it on the previous page. Sorry you can't follow along monito

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tps7c said:

yamfan said:

I already answered it a few posts back.

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No you didn't, you should try out for politics mate. If something doesn't suit your rhetoric you dodge, evade and sidestep the issue until it goes away.
Then you have the nerve to proudly and childishly proclaim yourself clever and "the winner".
On this forum we debate with views and facts, regardless of our chosen riders, not troll around posting childish pictures and simply having to have the last word on each quote.
Try it, it can be enlightening actually learning about the sport you claim to love, not everything revolves around a yellow diva you know...

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baturro said:

yamfan said:

And you won't get a straight answer from this point forward yamfan. He or she will just shut the piehole and take a .... somewhere else.

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I know mate, he's a coward who only answers questions when he thinks he's got a smart and yellow answer.
Yellow is truly his colour...

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baturro said:

You answered .... all.

Since no one can seem to find your previously posted answer, enlighten us with at least the post number where you answer this.

Sub primate waste of oxygen.

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yamfan said:

baturro said:

I know mate, he's a coward who only answers questions when he thinks he's got a smart and yellow answer.
Yellow is truly his colour...

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You figured me out, I'm proud...

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