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Motogp: 2016 Round 3 Red Bull Grand Prix of The Americas

Almost all riders I met were shorter than me except Baz.
Also umbrella girls were all super short girls on stripper heels sans Ducati girls. They had flat highcuts which were cute.
 
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And what would you wear to the races KittyKat? Because of my inability to visualise, you may have to post a pic of yourself like our lovely Libby.
 
This is how I imagine MK on her bike.

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Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)
 
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Which brings me to Dani Pedrosa. I was reminiscing with Arrabi the other day about the inaugural GP of Indy. I remember taking a picture with this girl wearing a "Pedrosa Sucks" t-shirt. Which at the time, I wholeheartedly believe (right or wrong) was both a funny and deserved jibe. Allow me to provide some context, as I'm sure there are perhaps some noobies that could use the history lesson. Dani Pedrosa torpedoed Nicky Hayden at the penultimate round of the 2006 season, not only his teammate, but his teammate that was on the cusp of a historic championship (at the Portuguese GP in Estoril, a topic that was touched on recently). But I want to take this opportunity to provide some context to contrast this infamous torpedo and the one that occurred at COTA. In addition, that infamous torpedo of Estoril should not be compared with Iannone taking Dovi out at the Argentine GP (more on this later someday). This is not only completely different, but the man who caused the crash in 2006 is not the same man of 2016. Ten years ago, I submit that Dani Pedrosa was under the influence and guidance of an awful man who was hell bent on ruthlessly smashing all obstacles, real or perceived; a dominating figure who highjacked his considerable influence and real connections within MotoGP's organization, including using the leverage of important marketing sponsorship dollars, employing this power to achieve his evil machinates, where the ends justified the means, and it mattered not how dastardly or mean spirited his 'climb to the top' was, even if climbing over people meant attempts at ruining the good name of rivals by accusations, including thwarting, foiling and obstructing a teammate in the garage. No, I'm not talking about Valentino Rossi, I'm talking about Alberto Puig, once manager and mentor, more akin to a dominatrix to Dani Pedrosa. The Torpedo of Estoril was one born from blind arrogance and self-entitlement, even the reaction after the incident can be contrasted to the one from Circuit of the Americas, where Pedrosa in 06 gesticulated in astounding conceit as if he was the victim, walking away from the incident transmitting an air of ....... contempt. It is no wonder why he was scorned, hated, and ridiculed. Forward ten years later, Pedrosa has been free from the wicked clutches of the evil influence of the vial Alberto Puig; the metamorphosis from a disgusting worm into a butterfly is a fitting metaphor for the new version of Dani Pedrosa. ...

Following quotes from Kropo 10/20/2006

"Alberto Puig, Pedrosa's Svengali-like mentor and friend, let slip a glimpse of the underlying problems in comments he made after the race, blaming Hayden for causing the crash by braking too hard, and asserting Pedrosa had every right to challenge Hayden for a position as he still had 'a mathematical chance of the title'. Puig is a very powerful figure in the paddock, running teams in the lower classes, as well as the MotoGP Academy, widely acknowledged as the best route into premier class racing for young riders. His influence is hard to exaggerate, and when you add in his forceful personality, known for attempting to silence those who criticize his riders, this makes him a potentially disruptive figure in any team. He is, like so many people involved at the very highest levels of professional sport, utterly driven, and people who are so driven often find it difficult to keep a sense of perspective. Alberto Puig is concerned with only one thing: that the riders he coaches should win. Nothing else matters."

"That Pedrosa then took out his team mate in an act of vindictive self-assertion was proof, if any were needed, that HRC had lost its way."

"Pedrosa's body language after the crash, getting up and walking away, without so much as a glance at his team mate, spoke volumes about how he viewed his team mate."


"Svengali-like", I love this part. Fantastic use of the word.
 
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Following quotes from Kropo 10/20/2006

"Alberto Puig, Pedrosa's Svengali-like mentor and friend, let slip a glimpse of the underlying problems in comments he made after the race, blaming Hayden for causing the crash by braking too hard, and asserting Pedrosa had every right to challenge Hayden for a position as he still had 'a mathematical chance of the title'. Puig is a very powerful figure in the paddock, running teams in the lower classes, as well as the MotoGP Academy, widely acknowledged as the best route into premier class racing for young riders. His influence is hard to exaggerate, and when you add in his forceful personality, known for attempting to silence those who criticize his riders, this makes him a potentially disruptive figure in any team. He is, like so many people involved at the very highest levels of professional sport, utterly driven, and people who are so driven often find it difficult to keep a sense of perspective. Alberto Puig is concerned with only one thing: that the riders he coaches should win. Nothing else matters."

"That Pedrosa then took out his team mate in an act of vindictive self-assertion was proof, if any were needed, that HRC had lost its way."

"Pedrosa's body language after the crash, getting up and walking away, without so much as a glance at his team mate, spoke volumes about how he viewed his team mate."


"Svengali-like", I love this part. Fantastic use of the word.

His reaction after the Pedropedo always struck me as totally bizarre since he had to have known in that instant what that meant for Nicky's title hopes. To walk away the way he did with the body language he had was indicative of a man who gave zero ...... Everyone assumed it was a foregone conclusion Rossi was going to go to Valencia and leave the champ, so Dani's reaction was inexplicable. Well other than for the fact that Puig likely had him convinced that if Honda were willing to build him a Pedrocycle, that should remove no doubt about who Honda really liked.
 
Rossi is a BALLS OUT racer, son. This 'aint table tennis folks. If you don't want to see aggressive passes turn on the Golf Channel!!!!!!

Just in case you are not aware - in the top pic JL was in championship contention, Rossi was not and yet Rossi rode into JL (if that is the year I believe it to me) and was thus 'racing' a championship contender when not in contention himself.

As for the second pic it is a bit similar to Assen 2015 whereby the rider on the inside was described as an out of control torpedo and was publically criticised by the rider on the outside, the difference being that in Assen VR was the one on the receiving end and he did not like it.

Yes VR may well be a balls out racer ......... but seems to much prefer when he is the balls out racer rather than when others perform the manouvers on him
 
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Just in case you are not aware - in the top pic JL was in championship contention, Rossi was not and yet Rossi rode into JL (if that is the year I believe it to me) and was thus 'racing' a championship contender when not in contention himself.

As for the second pic it is a bit similar to Assen 2015 whereby the rider on the inside was described as an out of control torpedo and was publically criticised by the rider on the outside, the difference being that in Assen VR was the one on the receiving end and he did not like it.

Yes VR may well be a balls out racer ......... but seems to much prefer when he is the balls out racer rather than when others perform the manouvers on him

Don't we all prefer that, Gaz?? And by the way, when Vale complains about that sort of thing, I don't support him. This is high stakes racing, if you give, you must be able to receive.
 
Don't we all prefer that, Gaz??

Prefer what .......... balls out racing?

If so then yes and no ............ many a balls out racer is no longer with us because of that attitude and many a balls out racer has suffered injury because of that attitude thus for me it is risk v reward.

Balls out is good, but it often leads to over the top riding and risky manouvers that border on the legal, however to many followers of the sport it all depends on whom performs the act on whom as to whether it was good racing, dirty racing or stupid.

Alternately, if you refer to someone not in contention for a title racing another who is in contention, then absolutely agree that it should be allowed, but last year we were told it should not happen and even the organisers of the sport took umbrage ........ or maybe that was more because of who was involved, one will never know but simply surmise.
 
Prefer what .......... balls out racing?

If so then yes and no ............ many a balls out racer is no longer with us because of that attitude and many a balls out racer has suffered injury because of that attitude thus for me it is risk v reward.

Balls out is good, but it often leads to over the top riding and risky manouvers that border on the legal, however to many followers of the sport it all depends on whom performs the act on whom as to whether it was good racing, dirty racing or stupid.

Alternately, if you refer to someone not in contention for a title racing another who is in contention, then absolutely agree that it should be allowed, but last year we were told it should not happen and even the organisers of the sport took umbrage ........ or maybe that was more because of who was involved, one will never know but simply surmise.

I think it's a very fine line between good racing and stupid, some times.

As to last year, and I know I'll get slammed for this BUT, the difference to me is that in my OPINION, Marc was trying to interfere with Vale, more so than race him. I'm not suggesting he shouldn't engage him simply because he was competing for the title, but in my opinion (and it is only an opinion) he was "cooking the books" as they say.
 
I think it's a very fine line between good racing and stupid, some times.

As to last year, and I know I'll get slammed for this BUT, the difference to me is that in my OPINION, Marc was trying to interfere with Vale, more so than race him. I'm not suggesting he shouldn't engage him simply because he was competing for the title, but in my opinion (and it is only an opinion) he was "cooking the books" as they say.


Whilst I disagree if we take your opinion as a guide and assume that MM was trying to interfere with VR, a question I asked last year of the new members and got no answer was whether his primary focus was to interfere with VR, interfere with the championship or to assist JL by interfering (remembering the full situation between PI and Sepang)?
 
Whilst I disagree if we take your opinion as a guide and assume that MM was trying to interfere with VR, a question I asked last year of the new members and got no answer was whether his primary focus was to interfere with VR, interfere with the championship or to assist JL by interfering (remembering the full situation between PI and Sepang)?

This is simply an opinion of course, but based on what JLO said after Valencia, I would think Marc being a Spaniard would slant him towards helping JL with the championship. I'm not saying this was Marc's intentions earlier in the season, however.
 
Listen guys, you said my bopper mentality towards Rossi is unwarranted. Ok, I'll take that under consideration.

I would ask you to consider this: All racers have huge egos, it's in the nature of what they do. They have to, in order to risk what they do every race. And by big ego I don't mean they are conceited ........, but they are just filled with machismo and bravado, etc. So here comes Marc, a rider who could definitely have the potential to knock off all of Vale's records. You guys REALLY believe that no part of Marc would not want to see Vale get his 10th overall title, thereby making it a bit easier for himself to beat those records?
 

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