MotoGP: 2016 Round 12 - Octo British Grand Prix Silverstone Circuit UK (SPOILERS)

steeeeeve said:

Hahahhhahhhahhhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahha.
Oh boy. After the tens of thousands of words about how nothing has ever been more clear that Rossi kicked Marc at sepang you respond with "it looked like his foot slipped off the peg." I love it.

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At full lean, guys lose their footing on the opposite side peg quite often. It happened to MM at the Brno when he made that save, and it's happened to him numerous other times. Motion is exactly the same as at Silverstone. His foot pops out and no one is even next to him.



They don't lose their footing when they are vertical.

Nice try Steve...you should come back when the yearly Austin race thread pops up.

Steve, it was definitely a kick... but I wouldn't waste my time trying to get JPS or Jums to admit it. MM is a dirty rider.

He does lift his leg off the outside peg a lot but I think this is a case of defending his line.

JPSLotus said:

At full lean, guys lose their footing on the opposite side peg quite often. It happened to MM at the Brno when he made that save, and it's happened to him numerous other times. Motion is exactly the same as at Silverstone. His foot pops out and no one is even next to him.



They don't lose their footing when they are vertical.

Nice try Steve...you should come back when the yearly Austin race thread pops up.

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I LOVE IT.

Oh. I see you're over 3k posts. Try getting out of your moms basement every know and then.

MdubSTYLIE said:

He does lift his leg off the outside peg a lot but I think this is a case of defending his line.

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I can't see it being a kick in particular with the ubiquity of cameras all over the circuit, and that isn't even including the gyroscopic camera on the tail of Rossi's bike. If it had been a kick, Dorna would have replayed it instantly and run with it so they could fan the flames further to increase the drama in the Rossi/Marquez saga. The Dorna playbook would be to send MM to the back of the grid for Misano in an effort to try and help Rossi close the points gap if it were really a kick. Their ideal scenario would see Rossi close the gap between Misano and Valencia in order to setup a showdown between MM and VR in a winner-take-all race.

steeeeeve said:

I LOVE IT.

Oh. I see you're over 3k posts. Try getting out of your moms basement every know and then.

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Can't debate anything like usual Steve....just like Vudu...always running for the personal attacks when nothing else works.

By the way, you might want to work on basic spelling so I can at least attempt to take you semi-seriously.

JPSLotus said:

I can't see it being a kick in particular with the ubiquity of cameras all over the circuit, and that isn't even including the gyroscopic camera on the tail of Rossi's bike. If it had been a kick, Dorna would have replayed it instantly and run with it so they could fan the flames further to increase the drama in the Rossi/Marquez saga. The Dorna playbook would be to send MM to the back of the grid for Misano in an effort to try and help Rossi close the points gap if it were really a kick. Their ideal scenario would see Rossi close the gap between Misano and setup a showdown between MM and VR at Valencia in a winner-take-all race.

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I'm not sure if it was a kick I guess I just hope it was. The camera Rossi had on his bike this weekend was sick and always pointed at Marc. Seems like that would have picked it up. It is possibly Rossi could mention it Thursday now that he has seen it. I could see them still penalizing Marc for it also. Mostly likely it will disappear though.

JPSLotus said:

Can't debate anything like usual Steve....just like Vudu...always running for the personal attacks when nothing else works.

By the way, you might want to work on basic spelling so I can at least attempt to take you semi-seriously.

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Forgive my "know" error. Sometimes my spell autocorrect has a mind of its own. And "know" is a word. Btw.

But wasn't it you that started in with the personal attack?

Don't be so sensitive. I'm sure you've got that basement decked out. I'm sure it's super rad.

MdubSTYLIE said:

I'm not sure if it was a kick I guess I just hope it was. The camera Rossi had on his bike this weekend was sick and always pointed at Marc. Seems like that would have picked it up. It is possibly Rossi could mention it Thursday now that he has seen it. I could see them still penalizing Marc or it also. Mostly likely it will disappear though.

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Well that's it for me really. The gyroscopic cam would have picked it up quite easily. If anything pops up with regard to it being a kick, I have no problem calling it as such. That Dorna hasn't shown anything to date to me is more indicative of it being nothing, as Dorna would like to see that points gap get closed up. It's an easy penalty for MM if there was a kick, and I cannot see them passing up the opportunity to penalize him. Of course it could be as you say where Rossi is going to conduct another "Sepang" press conference at Misano.

steeeeeve said:

Forgive my "know" error. Sometimes my spell autocorrect has a mind of its own. And "know" is a word. Btw.

But wasn't it you that started in with the personal attack?

Don't be so sensitive. I'm sure you've got that basement decked out. I'm sure it's super rad.

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Whether know is a word or not was irrelevant. The point was more if you are going to make the same tired 'get out of your mom's basement' ad hominem posts like Vudu, at least try and show you have some basic intelligence.

Personal attack, on you? No, no, all I told you to do was to come back when the 2017 Austin thread pops up. If you think that's a personal attack, I recommend getting some Vagisil Sensitive Skin Formula Maximum Strength Anti-Itch Creme. You need some soothing down there.

JPSLotus said:

Whether know is a word or not was irrelevant. The point was more if you are going to make the same tired 'get out of your mom's basement' ad hominem posts like Vudu, at least try and show you have some basic intelligence.

Personal attack, on you? No, no, all I told you to do was to come back when the 2017 Austin thread pops up. If you think that's a personal attack, I recommend getting some Vagisil Sensitive Skin Formula Maximum Strength Anti-Itch Creme. You need some soothing down there.

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And I simply said you should get out of your moms basement? How is that an attack but your recycled Austin comment not? Yes recycled. Yes. You use it every time. Just what you accuse me of. See a pattern here?
Is that the first time you've used the Vagisil comment? No. You use it all the time.
But at least you didn't accuse me of being a 13 year old boy this time. After all. I'm one of the few folks that uses his real name(ish) steve is always taken. Uses an actual pic of himself. And has met more than a few folks face to face on this forum.

Steve, when you learn to say something of substance, do let me know.

Attempting to discredit what I said by trying the get out of your mom's basement comment as your response is the difference. I just told you to come back when the Austin topic comes up. That's all you come here for and I would say you'd be far happier just coming for that once a year topic. Great, you meet people from here. Who cares?

Here's a challenge for you, try and debate what I said about the movement not being a kick. Are you man enough to do this?

JPSLotus said:

Steve, when you learn to say something of substance, do let me know.

Attempting to discredit what I said by trying the get out of your mom's basement comment as your response is the difference. I just told you to come back when the Austin topic comes up. That's all you come here for and I would say you'd be far happier just coming for that once a year topic. Great, you meet people from here. Who cares?

Here's a challenge for you, try and debate what I said about the movement not being a kick. Are you man enough to do this?

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Sure. That's an easy debate. Simply refer to the enormous amount of posts you posted about the Sepang "kick."
And posting a vid a foot coming off during a miraculous save didn't do much for me.

moto vudu said:

Steve, it was definitely a kick... but I wouldn't waste my time trying to get JPS or Jums to admit it. MM is a dirty rider.

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Alas he missed the brake lever. Oh well my advice is practice makes perfect. If at first MM failed, try try again. By Sepang he should have it down pat.

steeeeeve said:

Sure. That's an easy debate. Simply refer to the enormous amount of posts you posted about the Sepang "kick."
And posting a vid a foot coming off during a miraculous save didn't do much for me.

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What does Sepang have to do with this?

Nothing. So why continue bringing it up?

Has MM been accused by Rossi of doing something, or did race direction say MM did something Sunday? Nope.

You're grasping for straws.

The foot coming off is important as it happens to many GP riders, Rossi included, and the foot makes the same motion as your phantom kick. MM loses his footing on the peg when at full lean quite often.

Answer this if you are so sure it is a kick: why did Race Direction and Dorna who favor Rossi more than any rider in history not do a thing to punish MM? VR, the man who called Carmelo into his trailer to discuss Valencia's outcome has not said a word about this purported incident....in spite of beating the dead horse last week about how he simply lost all his energy because of what happened last season.

Steve, that VR fan Instagram account used a .GIF for a reason. They could have used the few seconds of actual video footage, but then that wouldn't actually have the same effect as a horribly pixelated stop-motion .GIF that took frames out in an effort to make it look like something awful happened. Watching it a 60fps, it looks far less sinister than you and the rest of the boppers are making it out to be. Their lame-... ....... Zapruder film attempt is more of the same ........ .... Rossi fans are known for.

birdman said:

Alas he missed the brake lever. Oh well my advice is practice makes perfect. If at first MM failed, try try again. By Sepang he should have it down pat.

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You don't seem to know where the controls on a motorcycle are located. Pretty sure Marc wasn't aiming for any brake lever by kicking the left side of Rossi's M1.

Steve, help me understand what we are debating here buddy.

1. Do you think Marquez kicked Rossi in this video you posted?
2. Do you think Marquez should be penalized for something? If so what?

It does look like MM missed his brake lever or his foot just plain slipped off.

moto vudu said:

You don't seem to know where the controls on a motorcycle are located. Pretty sure Marc wasn't aiming for any brake lever by kicking the left side of Rossi's M1.

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Lets hope he connects properly next time you cant have gutless pathetic acts like rossis kick go ignored ..... brings the whole neighbourhood down.

Every race thread turns into Sepang 2015.