MotoGP: 2015 Round 17 - Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix (SPOILERS)

propagandhi · Oct 26, 2015

#22 said:
Sure. .... you, you (Insert favourite rider) fan!!

You're a kart racer bro right? Please do it the right way.
You can insult me best by saying I'm german.
Favorite riders stoner/rea.

This should be easy.

#22 · Oct 26, 2015

Oh you ....... Kraut Rea lover!!! You know he's a lunatic right?

That's almost as bad as liking Josh Brookes!!!

xx CURVE xx · Oct 26, 2015

Jumkie said:
Hey bro, hope all is well in your neck of soaking woods. Say F1, was pouring all week. Stay dry.

So race direction should have penalized both perpetrator and victim in the incident in question, or are u saying Marc racing Rossi hard, in the fashion that VR fans have admired him for was no longer valid?

Have the following incidents been RECLASSIFIED by Rossi fan?

View attachment 11415

Well then Race Direction have some retroactive penalty work to do.

I got my rubber boots on bro ill be ok.. no what im saying is there were two perpetrators of the incident but only one had something to loose

propagandhi · Oct 26, 2015

U don't have a favorite u blindly support?

Well rather be a rea kraut .... than being level headed and taking the irrational passion out on the sheep you incestuous bopper loving island inhabitant! Cum heer mait,I'll fookin slice you open!

May I buy you a beer should we meet?
See kids,this is how it's done

Keshav · Oct 26, 2015

Jumkie said:
Race Insurrection were very clear. Marc did nothing wrong. Rossi did.

And of course you ALWAYS agree with RD. Right?

Keshav · Oct 26, 2015

Jumkie said:
Excellent! Rossi's paranoid assumption that Marc was out to get him clouded his sleep deprived (documented) judgment to use Marc as a tow.

The ...... part is even when Rossi deliberately crashed Marquez out he gain more points than he risked of losing in the event Marc found his form in the latter stage. That what makes Race Indiscretion ' s decision a non penalty.

Race Direction in effect "used the penalty to promote Valencia". Roger

Brilliant - even (and I'm not saying it isn't so) if it's not true. What the .... is preventing Roger from coming back? Maybe if he did certain folks here wouldn't be suffering from such blue-balls, and maybe chill the .... out.

#22 · Oct 26, 2015

propagandhi said:
U don't have a favorite u blindly support?

Well rather be a rea kraut .... than being level headed and taking the irrational passion out on the sheep you incestuous bopper loving island inhabitant! Cum heer mait,I'll fookin slice you open!

May I buy you a beer should we meet?
See kids,this is how it's done

Haha, epic!! You had me rolling dude.

P.S. Welsh are Celts, just like your boy Rea

propagandhi · Oct 26, 2015

Nice.can we communicate runes? Anything west of river dee snd north of the hadrians wall is my bro

Keshav · Oct 26, 2015

Mr Squiggle said:
I don't believe Rossi attempted to kick MM off the bike as the video evidence doesn't clearly and definitively show if he instigated a kick or his leg flick action was caused through MM's contact. You need psychic powers to know the answer to that question.

However, the act of taking the rider wide was most definitely a deliberate action and his intent was clearly to run MM onto the outside of the turn...to intimidate as he has done so successfully in the past.

By forcing MM wide onto that part of the track where lots of loose debris accumulates, especially whilst he is entering the corner leaned over expecting Rossi to run his normal line and speed, Marquez had a very small margin of error and was bound to crash if he made contact. Which is what we witnessed.

This is of course a dangerous, stupid and deliberate act that should have been punished shortly afterwards with a ride through penalty or black flag...as would have been the case for most other riders I suspect.

However that scenario wont earn nearly as much as letting it slip through the net...by "deliberating" on the "punishment" until after the race and thereby imposing a grid penalty, SPAIN Inc. have the decider in front of a MASSIVE Spanish crowd and global audience with the promise that the golden bopper army still may get the last laugh if JLO goes .... up at any stage during the race...and the anticipation that would bring for next years championship...KACHING!

Its Economics 101 gents...but yet again the rules seem to have been bent to please the wishes of a certain golden goose and the yellow ninjas that will defend him to the death no matter what dishonor he brings to the sport.

Very definitely - THIS.

#22 · Oct 26, 2015

Oh P.S. My current favourite rider is Lorenzo, but I also like Petrucci and to see Crutchlow not crash (ok thats plenty of ammo right there)

p4p1 · Oct 26, 2015

xx CURVE xx said:
Race direction should have penalized both VR and MM... and if hads ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have cavities.

Penalised Marquez for what exactly?

RCV600RR · Oct 26, 2015

#22 said:
Oh no I agree that Motegi 2010 was a good battle for the viewers. My statement merely is to the Rossi fans who use Laverty's tweet as a reason to justify that MM shouldn't have been interfering with Rossi's race. Why do they overlook 2010 yet shout blue murder at Sepang?

I would distinguish the two cases for one simple reason:

There's no suggestion that Rossi held up Lorenzo in favour of Lorenzo's rival. Rossi raced Lorenzo hard (at the end of a race), but there's no suggestion that he held him up (at the start of a race) and allowed his rival to get away.

In contrast, there is a strong suggestion (which is, granted, open to interpretation) as to whether Marquez was deliberately hindering Rossi at the start of a race to allow Lorenzo to get away, beyond merely racing him hard.

Most riders suggest that Marquez was hindering Rossi, so I have erred in favour of that argument...but who really knows!!!

I enjoyed the exchange of views.

propagandhi · Oct 26, 2015

....,can't argue with that. If petrucci didn't have pig blood in his dna he'd be my favorite. Massive lorenzo admirer....who's this cal guy?

#22 · Oct 26, 2015

Me too, but yes that's the issue. Some feel MM deliberately slowed up, some don't...only he will know for sure. The same as some feel VR kicked him, some don't.

As an aside, I've just noticed that there is a trend going on twitter under #allowedtopassvalentino.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/allowedtopassValentino?src=hash

So the people who whine saying Lorenzo is being given the championship now want Rossi to be let through to give it to him? As Jums says, utter insanity.

p4p1 · Oct 26, 2015

Again it's all because Rossi put this in everyone's head. All year we have seen Marquez struggle at times to pull the bike up and run wide. I would be willing to be he's run wide this year more times than the other 3 aliens combined. At the end of the day whether battling with Marquez slowed Rossi down or not it doesn't matter because Marquez didn't do any illegal moves and if Rossi isn't fast enough to clear off from the guy who finished third then his championship is in trouble anyway. You know who hindered Rossi more at PI? Iannone he would blast past Rossi on the straights and as usual the Duc was slower in the corners which would hold Rossi up or make him have to go offline to put a pass on this slowing him down again only for the Duc to blast past on the straight again.

Rossi sat and stewed over something he made up in his mind, the PI thing has been easily debunked. He called out the wrong man to get into a dogfight and he may have won the battle by pushing Marquez off the bike but holy .... it looks like he's gonna lose the war.

p4p1 · Oct 26, 2015

I think we will find out what the other riders feel about the incident at Valencia. If they're disgusted at Rossi they may make him work unbelievably hard for every pass if not they'll let him through and not fight to get back.

Keshav · Oct 26, 2015

Gaz said:
Jums, firstly and with no offence intended, I have my eyes, my mind to make up my decision and have done so quite clearly.

Evidence does indeed suggest that MM may well have been trying to 'play' with Rossi as that same evidence would seem to indicate that MM may well have been very capable of maintaining a faster race pace but for reasons known to himself, was unable to do so.

Now as I do not tell you what to do I would appreciate a likewise courtesy as I am happy to accept that you have your view and I mine, just as I accept your view you choose or seemingly choose to tell me I am wrong. I will not extend the same level of discourtesy to you by saying you are wrong.

Further you seem to have decided that I advocate a rider pulling over and allowing another past but may I suggest or ask that you re-read ALL of my posts in this thread and you will not see that anywhere.

You have your view, I have mind and we are both entitled to it and so that is how it shall be.

No, were I a pervert it is up to the women as to whether I should be around for what you may call a pervert, those self same women may not.

If women didn't want to be around pervs, the .... biz would be much diminished,

Keshav · Oct 26, 2015

J4rn0 said:
It is obvious that those who now ask for Rossi's public execution would instead scream against Marquez' dirty tactics if, in the same circumstances, Lorenzo had been in Rossi's place. Jum's screams against Dorna using Marquez to slow down Lorenzo and make sure Rossi wins the title would be deafening -- just as they are now, or more...!

May I point out again that race direction, as Mike Webb himself is on record stating, concluded that Marquez was in fact putting up a stiff fight with Rossi only to slow him down? This kind of race behavior is not punishable under the rules, even as blatant as it was at Sepang, -- but there is no denying it.

The indignation at the "unprecedented" criminal behavior by racer VR46 sounds dramatic indeed but, as a matter o fact, riders getting exasperated at other riders who were deliberately slowing them down (which is very different from genuinely fighting to finish the race in the best position you can) is by no way unprecedented. Some memorable episodes were never even sanctioned, like this one for example:

Spaan punching Gresini's head (who was slowing him down to help Capirossi), Australia 1990, 125cc :

That's hysterical. All they're missing is handbags hanging from their wrists.

Jumkie · Oct 26, 2015

RCV600RR said:
The key difference is that Rossi was not favouring one rider over another, like Marc was. Rossi was merely defending his own position, as he would have done against any other rider.

You may want to check who won the PI race. The perversion being that Marquez was "helping" Lorenzo by beating him is frankly a commentary about those believing the ........ Rossi told you to believe.

WVMotoGP99 · Oct 26, 2015

Sorry if this has been posted.. Quite a few pages too review for duplicates.

Does a fairly nice job summarizing how I feel. (Well, 85 to 90% any way.)

http://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...&utm_campaign=boosted-posts&utm_medium=social

MotoGP: 2015 Round 17 - Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix (SPOILERS)

Help Support MotoGP Forum:

propagandhi

#22

xx CURVE xx

propagandhi

Keshav

Keshav

#22

propagandhi

Keshav

#22

p4p1

RCV600RR

propagandhi

#22

p4p1

p4p1

Keshav

Keshav

Jumkie

WVMotoGP99

Similar threads

Recent Discussions

Recent Discussions