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Misano Race Discussion

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 1 2008, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>normally when you say "rossi fan's" your including me ( im flattered really! ) but i challenge you to find a post where i have ever called a race boring. electric mofo accused me of saying that once but never managed to find the post so good luck.
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No, I wasn't really saying you or Pete for that matter, it was more you're An4rews and his friends.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Sep 1 2008, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, I wasn't really saying you or Pete for that matter, it was more you're An4rews and his friends.
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to tell you the truth i always cringe when i read peeps calling motorcycle racing boring or say its not worth watching because the championship is decided ect.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Sep 1 2008, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, I wasn't really saying you or Pete for that matter, it was more you're An4rews and his friends.


No worries mate, I'm here for a bit o a laugh, and to call out the twats.

Youre cool, (for an Aussie)

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Aug 31 2008, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Elias can cry all he likes. Nothing against the guy. But when you're a pro racer getting support from a team, riding in a seat that so many would gladly give an arm and a leg for, GETTING PAID FOR IT, and owing your fans and sponsors at the very least the best performance you can summon up every race day, I find it shameful that he only gets his finger out when his job is on the line.

Negative. Elias is the third rider from a major market. There are no subsidy dollars for keeping him around. DORNA have brokered someone else onto his ride for next season. It will be interesting to see who. Like Migs said, he's done better than many riders this season and he's only had decent support for 2 races (after Ducati fired D'Antin).

I thought Aspar was going to call him?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Aug 31 2008, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The cruisin' caretaker watches Casey clear off then waits for a crash or mechanical failure.
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We know somebody else who used to do that.

by cruisin' caretaker you mean "cruising" right? coz from the race that i watched last night, vale was not anywhere near cruising trying to catch up with casey
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMaster170 @ Aug 31 2008, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Rolling Stones are back with the movie "Shine a Light", but this time they will have another member who is also back.... ROLLING STONER
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I wonder who will he blame this time for his fall
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But it is a sad day for us
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Get real. The last few times he fell - he blamed himself and no-one else.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R1 SF @ Aug 31 2008, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey 3 in a row, so much for your fans voodoo
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These last 3 races have been shocking, the guy is so fast but yet on race day it all goes pear shaped, I think Casey is turning into a bit of a chicken .... really, sure he has it to go fast but he'd rather force himself into a 2 DNF's than make a battle of it , Vale really messed him up at Laguna

Above is evidence of birth of Pinky from the Bizarro World.
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QUOTE (Keshav @ Aug 31 2008, 03:19 PM)
A the post race interview Elias said he "was free" and that anyone interested should let him know. He actually looked like he was on the verge of crying. Talk about your bittersweet moments. Sounds like Ducati has already cut him loose. How ....... ironic is that? The one other guy who finally learns to ride the 08 bike competitively isn't assured of a ride.

Quote Bikergirl: Elias can cry all he likes. Nothing against the guy. But when you're a pro racer getting support from a team, riding in a seat that so many would gladly give an arm and a leg for, GETTING PAID FOR IT, and owing your fans and sponsors at the very least the best performance you can summon up every race day, I find it shameful that he only gets his finger out when his job is on the line.

I've never been a big Elias fan and I have no desire to pat him on the back and dry his tears. However . . . what you say assumes that he's just not been trying. And that's only speculation. What makes you assume he's been malingering? Seems just as likely (more actually) that it's taken him this long to come to terms with the bike and to overcome his fear of throwing the throttle open, Stoner style. None of the other Ducati riders other than Stoner have been competitive. Are they all malingerers? Doubtful.
 
Talk about Groundhog day.
Misano could have been Brno.

Almost same lap.
Same slow right hander.

I can buy the choke tag at Brno but not here.
The championship was already virtually over and he was 3 seconds in front and riding half a second slower pace than he was all weekend. I thought he was controlling the race, but shows what I know.
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So who's turn is it to win the next couple of rounds?
There seems to be some voodoo going on.
Nobody seems to be able to win more than three races in a row before someone else has a dominating period. Perhaps I'ts Dani's turn or Jorge's?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Sep 1 2008, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Above is evidence of birth of Pinky from the Bizarro World.
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I don't know who Pinky is, I've seen the name fly about in the odd thread, its clear he gets little to no respect here, I've no desire to seek out his posts,
I don't see whats so bizarre in what I posted, mabey my choice of words were a bit harsh.
Valentino said it would have been very hard to catch Casey. Casey chose to push himself and his bike over the limit in order to keep as far away from Valentino as he could, theres a number of good ways to describe the situation and Caseys strategy, just depends how you look at it but choked seems the most acceptable here
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R1 SF @ Sep 1 2008, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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I don't know who Pinky is, I've seen the name fly about in the odd thread, its clear he gets little to no respect here, I've no desire to seek out his posts,

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This should answer your question buddy...I STRONGLY advice you to checked this out, otherwise you'll regret it for the rest of your life..
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http://www.powerslide.net/forum/joke-at-th...roll-t6226.html
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Sep 1 2008, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Funny - I haven't heard one Rossi fan say it was a boring race even though once he hit the front it was all over. Seems to me when Stoner (or anyone but Rossi) wins then it's the usual cries of BORING!

But then again, it's Rossi, apparently anything to do with him is beyond reproach.

First of all, you need to look closer, secondly, as curve said, that's stoners fault and may I add, two times in a row.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Aug 31 2008, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>---

One thing one could say for Stoner is that having nothing to lose championship-wise, he might have chosen to take more risks--that could explain the crashes.

Another pro-Stoner consideration is about his old fracture giving him pain. He was maybe trying to build up as much gap as possible from Rossi today, thinking that in the end of the race it would become harder for him to push hard.

Who knows. The fact is, he has now crashed out of three races in a row. That in itself, whatever the reason, can't be a good thing.
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my thoughts exactly!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Aug 31 2008, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Then take your discussion elsewhere.... this thread is about Stoner choking again, let's not get off topic now.

I don't quite know what your problem is since my post way clearly written with the intention of getting another member to talk about something they mentioned in a more appropriate place.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Sep 1 2008, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Get real. The last few times he fell - he blamed himself and no-one else.

He just couldn't manage to keep his dummy in though could he?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Sep 1 2008, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Above is evidence of birth of Pinky from the Bizarro World.
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i take it you missed out on rockgods voodoo post's , yiou would understand what r1 is going on about if you had read them
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Sep 1 2008, 04:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Aug 31 2008, 03:19 PM)
A the post race interview Elias said he "was free" and that anyone interested should let him know. He actually looked like he was on the verge of crying. Talk about your bittersweet moments. Sounds like Ducati has already cut him loose. How ....... ironic is that? The one other guy who finally learns to ride the 08 bike competitively isn't assured of a ride.

Quote Bikergirl: Elias can cry all he likes. Nothing against the guy. But when you're a pro racer getting support from a team, riding in a seat that so many would gladly give an arm and a leg for, GETTING PAID FOR IT, and owing your fans and sponsors at the very least the best performance you can summon up every race day, I find it shameful that he only gets his finger out when his job is on the line.

I've never been a big Elias fan and I have no desire to pat him on the back and dry his tears. However . . . what you say assumes that he's just not been trying. And that's only speculation. What makes you assume he's been malingering? Seems just as likely (more actually) that it's taken him this long to come to terms with the bike and to overcome his fear of throwing the throttle open, Stoner style. None of the other Ducati riders other than Stoner have been competitive. Are they all malingerers? Doubtful.
The fact that he's always at the back of the pack...and the fact that the only time he won a GP was when Gresini had told him he wasn't sure he'd be signing him the next year. Elias won, had his contract renewed for the next season, and then spent the next season doing what he does best..ie nothing. Which makes me angry because the guy CAN win races see? I'm not doubting his talent...only his motivation. IYou're just assuming he suddenly clicked with the bike and suddenly got some support...wow. Great coincidence. After his win with gresini Honda he then spent a whole other year on the same bike and did nothing. Did someone reboot his brain on the off season then?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 1 2008, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>First of all, you need to look closer, secondly, as curve said, that's stoners fault and may I add, two times in a row.
So Stoner crashes and he gets the blame for boring races - it really is hard being a fan of Stoner - no matter what he does, it's his fault. Some of you clowns need to get a grip on reality, not have your head so far up Rossi's arse you can't see.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Aug 31 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So you DO remember all those joking post, matey....???
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You're the Pinky of Rossi fans.
 

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