Misano Race Discussion

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Sep 1 2008, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>

Do yourself a favour and change your Avatar. HINT - There are other, more appropriate forums to advertise your IQ level and thereby give you the opportunity to debate with people at a similar level.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Sep 2 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Do yourself a favour and change your Avatar. HINT - There are other, more appropriate forums to advertise your IQ level and thereby give you the opportunity to debate with people at a similar level.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Sep 2 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Do yourself a favour and change your Avatar. HINT - There are other, more appropriate forums to advertise your IQ level and thereby give you the opportunity to debate with people at a similar level.
What's wrong krusty ?? Your nose getting "rusty" ?? Hey, not you...I mean the avatar itself ! Do yourself a favour and change your avatar too..
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damn stoner. you're killing me. gotta stay on the bike to put the pressure back on rossi. you're letting him walk away with it!

rossi is doing what he needs to do. keep the pressure on stoner, and it seems to be working. hats off.

i agree with everyone else about the kaw's though. maybe melandri can help turn things around.

Well to all the Dani haters coming here to spew their usual ........ I can only say one thing, .... OFF! Dani just got what Rossi got and what everyone wants the best equipment possible. Rossi fans have no right to critizise Dani for wanting to change to Bstone!! Dani wanted them since last season but he ain't got the $$ value Rossi has to bully Dorna to get them for him at the beggining of the season , so he had to wait until HRC realized sticking with Michelin costed them a possible title.

You all lot bitching about how little laps Dani did at Brno bla bla bla ........, you don't have anything to say about the number of laps yesterday?? Bunch of hypocrite ......s!!!

@ Bikergirl: Elias has broken half the bones in his body, someone who is just cruising around to collect his salary doesn't expose himself like that. The results came when the new parts for his bike came has nothing to do with contracts, do you think team bosses don't know if their riders are putting effort or not?? . Ducati so far have proven to be a bunch of idiots in their driver management. If they don't resign Elias that will just further prove my point.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 2 2008, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You all lot bitching about how little laps Dani did at Brno bla bla bla ........, you don't have anything to say about the number of laps yesterday?? Bunch of hypocrite ......s!!!

In hindsight the data from the Brno test really wouldn't have had any use for Dani, so it all makes sense.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 2 2008, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well to all the Dani haters coming here to spew their usual ........ I can only say one thing, .... OFF! Dani just got what Rossi got and what everyone wants the best equipment possible. Rossi fans have no right to critizise Dani for wanting to change to Bstone!! Dani wanted them since last season but he ain't got the $$ value Rossi has to bully Dorna to get them for him at the beggining of the season , so he had to wait until HRC realized sticking with Michelin costed them a possible title.

You all lot bitching about how little laps Dani did at Brno bla bla bla ........, you don't have anything to say about the number of laps yesterday?? Bunch of hypocrite ......s!!!

@ Bikergirl: Elias has broken half the bones in his body, someone who is just cruising around to collect his salary doesn't expose himself like that. The results came when the new parts for his bike came has nothing to do with contracts, do you think team bosses don't know if their riders are putting effort or not?? . Ducati so far have proven to be a bunch of idiots in their driver management. If they don't resign Elias that will just further prove my point.
Ahh just in case you forgot Dani wanted B stones last year but was persuaded to stay with Shitalin. So he wanted them it was just his ...... butt buddy that made sure he stayed on them. IT had nothing to do with who has more money.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 2 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ahh just in case you forgot Dani wanted B stones last year but was persuaded to stay with Shitalin. So he wanted them it was just his ...... butt buddy that made sure he stayed on them. IT had nothing to do with who has more money.

It's not about HAVING money it's about how much you're worth to Dorna, both riders wanted this but Rossi is worth much more, and can blackmail Dorna to get him Bstones by threatening to go to F1, WRC or whatever while Dorna can live without Dani. So Rossi got them and Dani didn't (until HRC was convinced)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 2 2008, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well to all the Dani haters coming here to spew their usual ........ I can only say one thing, .... OFF! Dani just got what Rossi got and what everyone wants the best equipment possible. Rossi fans have no right to critizise Dani for wanting to change to Bstone!! Dani wanted them since last season but he ain't got the $$ value Rossi has to bully Dorna to get them for him at the beggining of the season , so he had to wait until HRC realized sticking with Michelin costed them a possible title.

You all lot bitching about how little laps Dani did at Brno bla bla bla ........, you don't have anything to say about the number of laps yesterday?? Bunch of hypocrite ......s!!!

@ Bikergirl: Elias has broken half the bones in his body, someone who is just cruising around to collect his salary doesn't expose himself like that. The results came when the new parts for his bike came has nothing to do with contracts, do you think team bosses don't know if their riders are putting effort or not?? . Ducati so far have proven to be a bunch of idiots in their driver management. If they don't resign Elias that will just further prove my point.
rossi waited until his contract expired at the END of the season and he didnt get jb to canvas the rest of the paddock to boycott races either. if you cant see the difference then your a real fanboy and i salute you becauyse your in the minorty on this issue. about the only one who agrees is tom so go figure.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 2 2008, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>rossi waited until his contract expired at the END of the season

If Michelin and Bridgestone had been open to other arangements Rossi definitely would have changed earlier. Obviously all parties have learnt from the events of last year and are dealing with this situation far better. The boycott thing was rediculous though, thank god all the riders had some sense.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 2 2008, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Michelin and Bridgestone had been open to other arangements Rossi definitely would have changed earlier. Obviously all parties have learnt from the events of last year and are dealing with this situation far better. The boycott thing was rediculous though, thank god all the riders had some sense.
thats quit an outlandish thing to say. what do you have to back this up ? dont say its just an opinion when your stated " Rossi definitely would have changed earlier"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 2 2008, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Michelin and Bridgestone had been open to other arangements Rossi definitely would have changed earlier. Obviously all parties have learnt from the events of last year and are dealing with this situation far better. The boycott thing was rediculous though, thank god all the riders had some sense.

Those 2 selfish .......s... i mean shiit, the fans paid good money to watch these MotoGP riders put on a good show and probably couldn't wait for the race weekend to come any sooner than it did, yet these 2 ........ decided to play politics and almost ruined everything for the fans. Thank goodness the other riders ignore these 2 idiots and went about their business. Seriously, who do these 2 clowns think they are to try and pull a stunt like that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 2 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thats quit an outlandish thing to say. what do you have to back this up ? dont say its just an opinion when your stated " Rossi definitely would have changed earlier"

It's quite clearly speculation as the entire situation is hypothetical. But be honest, if Rossi had been told at this point last year that he could have Bridgestone tyres that he was begging for, or see the season out with the tyres he had no confidence in and was convinced were inferior, what do you think he would have done? "for sure i stay with Michelin,lose and complain for the rest of the season" Doubt it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 2 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Those 2 selfish .......s... i mean shiit, the fans paid good money to watch these MotoGP riders put on a good show and probably couldn't wait for the race weekend to come any sooner than it did, yet these 2 ........ decided to play politics and almost ruined everything for the fans. Thank goodness the other riders ignore these 2 idiots and went about their business. Seriously, who do these 2 clowns think they are to try and pull a stunt like that.

As far as i heard no riders ever comitted to the boycott. Do you know something i don't?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 2 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Those 2 selfish .......s... i mean shiit, the fans paid good money to watch these MotoGP riders put on a good show and probably couldn't wait for the race weekend to come any sooner than it did, yet these 2 ........ decided to play politics and almost ruined everything for the fans. Thank goodness the other riders ignore these 2 idiots and went about their business. Seriously, who do these 2 clowns think they are to try and pull a stunt like that.
best post ive read from you

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 2 2008, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's quite clearly speculation as the entire situation is hypothetical. But be honest, if Rossi had been told at this point last year that he could have Bridgestone tyres that he was begging for, or see the season out with the tyres he had no confidence in and was convinced were inferior, what do you think he would have done? "for sure i stay with Michelin,lose and complain for the rest of the season" Doubt it
arr the sweet sound of back peddling, or are you going to say you dont always agree with yourself but just like to put alternative ideas across again

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 2 2008, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's not about HAVING money it's about how much you're worth to Dorna, both riders wanted this but Rossi is worth much more, and can blackmail Dorna to get him Bstones by threatening to go to F1, WRC or whatever while Dorna can live without Dani. So Rossi got them and Dani didn't (until HRC was convinced)

Distorting history are we? If you and your micro buddy have any thing at all to say about him not getting the tires he wanted last year you have to take that to HRC not Dorna or Bridgestone. It stoped right there at his team. You might say it still got to do with "value" but less so and nothing to do with Dorna.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 2 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>arr the sweet sound of back peddling, or are you going to say you dont always agree with yourself but just like to put alternative ideas across again

I just think its a shame that i have to explain to you that a hypothetical situation can only ever be an opinion, its pretty obvious.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 2 2008, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just think its a shame that i have to explain to you that a hypothetical situation can only ever be an opinion, its pretty obvious.
then dont use the word "definitely". there is no "definitely" in opinions or hypothetical situations. you always do this when your proved wrong.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 2 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>then dont use the word "definitely". there is no "definitely" in opinions or hypothetical situations. you always do this when your proved wrong.

Okay, just to stop you from falling behind i'll try in future to write "in my opinion...would definitiely......"