Le Mans Race

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree, but many here did not see it that way when rossi supposedly "brakle checked" stoner at laguna last year.
YEah that whole brake check thing, well I don't know maybe he did and maybe he didn't. If he did I really didn't see it or at least it wasn't a blatent visual telling thing. I could tell if he did of course but when your that close setting up for your line things could look one way and be another. Look what if it was the other way around? Stoner doing that to Vale. What if Vale crashed cause of Stoner? Now Casey would never live that down and people would be all over the poor kid. But reverse it and now what? Ah that was just a racing incident. There is a double standard when it comes to Vale. Like a how dare you pull that .... on Valentino. I think Stoner had respect for Vale but it wasn't the other way around. So that is why Stoner may have flown off the handle a bit cause he was just looking for a bit of respect during the race. He gave it to Vale but it was not recipricated at all. Decent race but I still wonder had Stoner done what Vale did, and Vale crashed. What the Rossi fanclan would have done and said would have been that double standard fleshed out.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ May 20 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does anyone have footage of this incident?? I have only heard what happened, I would like to see it.

I think Dorna went back to try and find some footage, once they couldn't find any, they decided to make it a who-bra-bra between riders. Footage wouldn't really settle the dispute though, as you might have noticed, there's a few members here on pinky's fan club list, and they all drink from the same punch.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 20 2009, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>YEah that whole brake check thing, well I don't know maybe he did and maybe he didn't. If he did I really didn't see it or at least it wasn't a blatent visual telling thing. I could tell if he did of course but when your that close setting up for your line things could look one way and be another. Look what if it was the other way around? Stoner doing that to Vale. What if Vale crashed cause of Stoner? Now Casey would never live that down and people would be all over the poor kid. But reverse it and now what? Ah that was just a racing incident. There is a double standard when it comes to Vale. Like a how dare you pull that .... on Valentino. I think Stoner had respect for Vale but it wasn't the other way around. So that is why Stoner may have flown off the handle a bit cause he was just looking for a bit of respect during the race. He gave it to Vale but it was not recipricated at all. Decent race but I still wonder had Stoner done what Vale did, and Vale crashed. What the Rossi fanclan would have done and said would have been that double standard fleshed out.
i wouldn't have had a problem if stoner did it to rossi. brake checking is all part of race craft imo. as we agreed, its not up to the guy ion front unless he is a back marker.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree, but many here did not see it that way when rossi supposedly "brakle checked" stoner at laguna last year.

Shut it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 20 2009, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Shut it.
i was and you

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i wouldn't have had a problem if stoner did it to rossi. brake checking is all part of race craft imo. as we agreed, its not up to the guy ion front unless he is a back marker.
Well it cold happen this year. Just like in Jerez the very next year after Vale made that move on SETE and in 07 Toni Elias booted Rossi. Hey fair is fair right? I think from the words I have read by stoner and just my guess he is going to give Rossi a battle if they wind up in a fight for position. I don't think Casey has any bones about him now to take it to Vale.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 20 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well it cold happen this year. Just like in Jerez the very next year after Vale made that move on SETE and in 07 Toni Elias booted Rossi. Hey fair is fair right? I think from the words I have read by stoner and just my guess he is going to give Rossi a battle if they wind up in a fight for position. I don't think Casey has any bones about him now to take it to Vale.
Are you ....... serious? brake checking and crashing into someone are 2 totally different things !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Are you ....... serious? brake checking and crashing into someone are 2 totally different things !
Laguna is gonna rock this year. Can't wait. Stoner has a point to prove and Rossi will not back down. F Mugello.

Ok, just saw SUPERSPORT!

Holy ....!!! Man, is that exciting. Ah man, Miller can't get here soon enough!

Has anybody heard from Frosty? He's MIA.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 20 2009, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Laguna is gonna rock this year. Can't wait. Stoner has a point to prove and Rossi will not back down. F Mugello.
i will expect several photo's of the weekend to be posted and the compas to consume copious amount of pirate juice in my memory

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Are you ....... serious? brake checking and crashing into someone are 2 totally different things !
No .... sherlock! I am just saying that .... happens. A prime example of THAT is what I just wrote. Vale booted Sete only he didn't crash. He saved himself. Toni booted Rossi and he just happend to crash that is all. Karma is a ......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 20 2009, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No .... sherlock! I am just saying that .... happens. A prime example of THAT is what I just wrote. Vale booted Sete only he didn't crash. He saved himself. Toni booted Rossi and he just happend to crash that is all. Karma is a ......
You using this word "booted" very loosely. You say Toni "booted" rossi in the context that toni crashed into rossi, yet try and use the word "booted" with the vale gibbers jerez incident where no contact was made between the riders . What do you mean by "booted" ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You using this word "booted" very loosely. You say Toni "booted" rossi in the context that toni crashed into rossi, yet try and use the word "booted" with the vale gibbers jerez incident where no contact was made between the riders . What do you mean by "booted" ?
........ bro. Go look at it and there was contact. It may not have been big but they touched easily.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 20 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>........ bro. Go look at it and there was contact. It may not have been big but they touched easily.
If you think this is the same as a rider crashing into you from behind then i will not waste any more time debating it. i will agree to differ.
I have seen that race many times , geez i have a burky painting of it on my wall. Gibbers also cried about a similar close racing incident with tamada. So in your eyes this jerez incident that you bought up is the same as takahsi crashing into hayden incident then ??

Theres a bit of pain swapping and theres using other riders for brakes !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you think this is the same as a rider crashing into you from behind then i will not waste any more time debating it. i will agree to differ.
I have seen that race many times , geez i have a burky painting of it on my wall. Gibbers also cried about a similar close racing incident with tamada. So in your eyes this jerez incident that you bought up is the same as takahsi crashing into hayden incident then ??

Theres a bit of pain swapping and theres using other riders for brakes !
YOur missing my point. It has nothing to do with the mechanics and specifics of a "crash". Just the fact there was an incident. So I am just saying about how that happend in 06 then in 07 the very next corner karma caught up with Vale. So I am saying it could happen where Karma catches up with Vale in Laguna this year. Not anything to do with this crash is similar or like that crash. Ok now have a pint or seven.

Did someone say brake check?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ May 20 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Did someone say brake check?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 21 2009, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ok, just saw SUPERSPORT!

Holy ....!!! Man, is that exciting. Ah man, Miller can't get here soon enough!

Has anybody heard from Frosty? He's MIA.

on leave to some island for a vaca

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You using this word "booted" very loosely. You say Toni "booted" rossi in the context that toni crashed into rossi, yet try and use the word "booted" with the vale gibbers jerez incident where no contact was made between the riders . What do you mean by "booted" ?

Do you think No contact was made between Rossi and Sete at Jerez 05? Rossi's move that day was considerably worse than Toni's Turkey 07 move and is an excellent example of the double standard that some people use.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You using this word "booted" very loosely. You say Toni "booted" rossi in the context that toni crashed into rossi, yet try and use the word "booted" with the vale gibbers jerez incident where no contact was made between the riders . What do you mean by "booted" ?