Le Mans Race

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ May 27 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i totally agree with what you've posted j4n0. but don't make this into a "rossi vs. stoner" thread.
i simply stated what i've witnessed over the years. and in my eyes, some of the tactics that rossi has used .... are questionable imho.

that's all. this isn't about who is a better rider, or whatever. it's an OPINION. and an opinion of others i've discussed this with. is it fair? sure. in the end, whoever wins. but trust me, those who put their life on the line will tell you it's questionable.
Some people just see what they want to see. You still have not told me what races you were referring too.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 27 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Some people just see what they want to see. You still have not told me what races you were referring too.

and some ppl believe whatever they want to believe. i don't have to provide you with any specific race on a specific corner. if you don't see it, you don't see it. but then, i'm sure you've never stepped foot out on a race track. if you have it was on a track day in a novice session.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ May 27 2009, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and some ppl believe whatever they want to believe. i don't have to provide you with any specific race on a specific corner. if you don't see it, you don't see it. but then, i'm sure you've never stepped foot out on a race track. if you have it was on a track day in a novice session.
No you dont, but dont expect us to take your word then. You said rossi brake checks at over 170 mph rishing other riders lives, you said he did this to biaggi and gibber yet you refuse to give us examples. I smell ........ from a rossi hater ! i gave you plenty of oppitunity to prove your case but you cant ! thats ....... lame man !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 27 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Some people just see what they want to see. You still have not told me what races you were referring too.


let me add this. and maybe this will clarify some of my thoughts on the matter.

if i'm going to win a race, or even just finish ahead of the competition, it's purely because i'm faster than those around me. which i believe is how stoner feels, and if you watched any of the ama supercross races this year, is what stewart believes. he (stewart) got pretty heated in a few races when chad reed pulled some questionable moves during practices and races. why? because he doesn't have to do it to win. he's simply faster. i'm sure he feels taking his wheel out, or parking it in a corner is bs. this could cause a rider to go down and ruin his chance of finishing, or worse, getting hurt and ruining that riders chance at the championship. and these are at a 3rd of the speeds motogp carries, and in the dirt no less. stewart has said in numerous interviews that he feels chads "race craft" as many on here like to throw around; are bogus.

now when james says things like that in an interview it's all good because he isn't saying it about someone with the stature of rossi. rossi has a cult following behind him, and god forbid someone call rossi out. he would be named .... oh what is it again? whinger. or some of the other hypocritically names i've heard thrown out around here. same ppl. same .....

and for the record. do i mind "dicing it up" with other riders on a track? sure. as long as someone doesn't intentionally (key word here) do something that is going to make me alter my line, or go off track. that isn't "race craft". that's crap.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ May 27 2009, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>let me add this. and maybe this will clarify some of my thoughts on the matter.

if i'm going to win a race, or even just finish ahead of the competition, it's purely because i'm faster than those around me. which i believe is how stoner feels, and if you watched any of the ama supercross races this year, is what stewart believes. he (stewart) got pretty heated in a few races when chad reed pulled some questionable moves during practices and races. why? because he doesn't have to do it to win. he's simply faster. i'm sure he feels taking his wheel out, or parking it in a corner is bs. this could cause a rider to go down and ruin his chance of finishing, or worse, getting hurt and ruining that riders chance at the championship. and these are at a 3rd of the speeds motogp carries, and in the dirt no less. stewart has said in numerous interviews that he feels chads "race craft" as many on here like to throw around; are bogus.

now when james says things like that in an interview it's all good because he isn't saying it about someone with the stature of rossi. rossi has a cult following behind him, and god forbid someone call rossi out. he would be named .... oh what is it again? whinger. or some of the other hypocritically names i've heard thrown out around here. same ppl. same .....

and for the record. do i mind "dicing it up" with other riders on a track? sure. as long as someone doesn't intentionally (key word here) do something that is going to make me alter my line, or go off track. that isn't "race craft". that's crap.
Then stick to time trials. Racing is all about block passing guarding your lines trying to stop the faster guys using there optimum lines and even the odd brake check. Sounds like you ride like a ..... ! maybe the reason your not an 8 times world champion. Do you actually like close racing ? or do you prefer run away races ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 28 2009, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Then stick to time trials. Racing is all about block passing guarding your lines trying to stop the faster guys using there optimum lines and even the odd brake check. Sounds like you ride like a ..... ! maybe the reason your not an 8 times world champion. Do you actually like close racing ? or do you prefer run away races ?

I prefer run away races, there is nothing like seein a rider streaking out miles ahead while the other racers lap in single file. I get chills down my spine every time i rewatch the 2007 season. I get out my notebook and make little statistical graphs on how much csaey stretches his lead, lap after lap, after lap and marvel at the clearly superior top speed of his machine. Then i write letters to DORNA complaining about all the passing manouvres that make it so confusing and difficult to watch.

oh and, gimma a HELLLL YEEAAHHH if you collect stamps and ride a honda DN-01!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 27 2009, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Then stick to time trials. Racing is all about block passing guarding your lines trying to stop the faster guys using there optimum lines and even the odd brake check. Sounds like you ride like a ..... ! maybe the reason your not an 8 times world champion. Do you actually like close racing ? or do you prefer run away races ?


dude, you know nothing about racing.

"and it sounds like i ride like a ....."? ok man. i have nothing to prove to you, or anyone else for that matter.

fuckina i get tired of all the rossi boppers.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ May 28 2009, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>dude, you know nothing about racing.

"and it sounds like i ride like a ....."? ok man. i have nothing to prove to you, or anyone else for that matter.

fuckina i get tired of all the rossi boppers.
like i get tired of the rossi haters that spout .... and cant back it up !