Le Mans Race

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 20 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Do you think No contact was made between Rossi and Sete at Jerez 05? Rossi's move that day was considerably worse than Toni's Turkey 07 move and is an excellent example of the double standard that some people use.

Yeah Rog, WTF.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 20 2009, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you think this is the same as a rider crashing into you from behind...
Oh, you said "crashing"...

Wait, wait, I'm a bit confused. Did Rossi actually "crash" at Turkey?

All I remember is alot of whinning, but NO "crashing" Tommy. The 'crashing' between Elias-Rossi was more like a 'torpedo" but that happened in 06 (which I think is what Rog is talking about, correct me if I'm full of ....). And certainly, I wouldn't compare Jerez: Gibers-Rossi to Elias-Rossi Spanish GP 06.


For old times sake; I'd like to revisit what the gracious Rossi had to say about Turkey 07:

“I'm quite unhappy with Elias because I think he was quite dangerous." <strike> Stacey Moaner Laguna Seca 08</strike>

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Wonder if they are from Texas?

I've heard of leaving your dog in the box but this is a bit much.

Whats wrong with the person in front putting his brakes on?? Surely the person behind is at fault for running into them - according to the insurance claims

Is this another rule I need to learn ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (halfpint @ May 21 2009, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whats wrong with the person in front putting his brakes on?? Surely the person behind is at fault for running into them - according to the insurance claims

Is this another rule I need to learn ?

nice

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (halfpint @ May 21 2009, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whats wrong with the person in front putting his brakes on?? Surely the person behind is at fault for running into them - according to the insurance claims

Is this another rule I need to learn ?
Its a bit more problematic on the track since race bikes don't have a tail light to warn the rider behind who, btw, is expecting constant pace from the rider ahead. A "brake check" is a racing maneuver meant to upset a rider pushing from behind (and no I'm not talkin' 'bout Hong Kong ladyboys ).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 20 2009, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nah i already knew, i'm smarter than you are........... Remind me, what is a 'schwantz'?

Its a gauge for checking runout on a crankshaft Tom, I thought even trainee engineers knew that.

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ May 21 2009, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its a gauge for checking runout on a crankshaft Tom, I thought even trainee engineers knew that.

I think we might have made a mistake, when Tom claimed to be an engineer, I think he meant, enginequeer. Which of course would explain why he talks out the ....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ May 21 2009, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>meant to upset a rider pushing from behind (and no I'm not talkin' 'bout Hong Kong ladyboys ).

BUT surely the rider behind should anticipate the bloke in front breaking into the bends and if they study the riders then they should know when to expect it?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (halfpint @ May 22 2009, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BUT surely the rider behind should anticipate the bloke in front breaking into the bends and if they study the riders then they should know when to expect it?
Theres plenty here who say they like and want close racing but start crying foul when theres some paint swapping and brake checking They group this along with blatant carelessness that we have seen in the past by the likes of elias (skud) and others. Just read back at the comments made after 2 of the closest most exciting races we have seen in a decade, jerez 05 and laguna 08.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (halfpint @ May 22 2009, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BUT surely the rider behind should anticipate the bloke in front breaking into the bends and if they study the riders then they should know when to expect it?
brake checking happens when the lead rider drops anchor in an unexpected place ie way before normal braking for a corner. you cant do much except change lines, brake as well or run straight into his arse. all 3 result in effectively stopping overtaking in that corner.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ May 22 2009, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>brake checking happens when the lead rider drops anchor in an unexpected place ie way before normal braking for a corner. you cant do much except change lines, brake as well or run straight into his arse. all 3 result in effectively stopping overtaking in that corner.
An interesting tactic, and without particular reference to any event last year (stoner acknowledged he made the error), one presumably only to be engaged in against an opponent the ability of whom one respects, as it depends on him having sufficient perception and skill/reflexes not to run into you.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ May 22 2009, 05:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>brake checking happens when the lead rider drops anchor in an unexpected place ie way before normal braking for a corner. you cant do much except change lines, brake as well or run straight into his arse. all 3 result in effectively stopping overtaking in that corner.

and one that rossi is oh so famous for. i've watched him do it to biaggi, sete, and anyone else for that matter - for years. he'll stop almost dead in a corner where he shouldn't, and make the rider behind run wide (or worse). the rossi fan boys will say it's "race craft", but for those of us who actually do race; will tell you it's pretty cheap to risk the fate of someone at 170 + mph.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 22 2009, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Theres plenty here who say they like and want close racing but start crying foul when theres some paint swapping and brake checking

So you admit it, there was a brake check! Ah ha.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ May 22 2009, 08:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and one that rossi is oh so famous for. i've watched him do it to biaggi, sete, and anyone else for that matter - for years. he'll stop almost dead in a corner where he shouldn't, and make the rider behind run wide (or worse). the rossi fan boys will say it's "race craft", but for those of us who actually do race; will tell you it's pretty cheap to risk the fate of someone at 170 + mph.

Yeah Roger, WTF.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ May 23 2009, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and one that rossi is oh so famous for. i've watched him do it to biaggi, sete, and anyone else for that matter - for years. he'll stop almost dead in a corner where he shouldn't, and make the rider behind run wide (or worse). the rossi fan boys will say it's "race craft", but for those of us who actually do race; will tell you it's pretty cheap to risk the fate of someone at 170 + mph.
Wow...... can you prove this? After all Rossi is called the GOAT - GOD OF ALL TIME - to the uninitiated (ARE THERE ANY?) - and being GOD -- is there more than one - if he's GOD, which I believe he is (because I'm a sheep) and a LAMB OF GOD (Roman Catholic) - if he brake checked someone it was to teach them a divine lesson (probably in Godliness), as to how to respond to an unusual braking action at high speed in a pivotal race and leave them in awe at the godliness of such an action.
If said pupils don't understand, they shall have to win multiple world championships (at the very highest level) to even be mentioned in such lofty heights as the aforementioned GOAT (who we know is the GOAT) to be even credited with any knowledge of the "championship" - which, of course, the GOAT is the GOAT of!!

ALL HEIL THE GOAT!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ May 22 2009, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow...... can you prove this? After all Rossi is called the GOAT - GOD OF ALL TIME - to the uninitiated (ARE THERE ANY?) - and being GOD -- is there more than one - if he's GOD, which I believe he is (because I'm a sheep) and a LAMB OF GOD (Roman Catholic) - if he brake checked someone it was to teach them a divine lesson (probably in Godliness), as to how to respond to an unusual braking action at high speed in a pivotal race and leave them in awe at the godliness of such an action.
If said pupils don't understand, they shall have to win multiple world championships (at the very highest level) to even be mentioned in such lofty heights as the aforementioned GOAT (who we know is the GOAT) to be even credited with any knowledge of the "championship" - which, of course, the GOAT is the GOAT of!!

ALL HEIL THE GOAT!!!!


why do i have to prove anything? and btw - GOAT = Greatest of All Time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 22 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So you admit it, there was a brake check! Ah ha.



Yeah Roger, WTF.

(stirring)

there. fixed it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ May 22 2009, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow...... can you prove this? After all Rossi is called the GOAT - GOD OF ALL TIME - to the uninitiated (ARE THERE ANY?) - and being GOD -- is there more than one - if he's GOD, which I believe he is (because I'm a sheep) and a LAMB OF GOD (Roman Catholic) - if he brake checked someone it was to teach them a divine lesson (probably in Godliness), as to how to respond to an unusual braking action at high speed in a pivotal race and leave them in awe at the godliness of such an action.
If said pupils don't understand, they shall have to win multiple world championships (at the very highest level) to even be mentioned in such lofty heights as the aforementioned GOAT (who we know is the GOAT) to be even credited with any knowledge of the "championship" - which, of course, the GOAT is the GOAT of!!

ALL HEIL THE GOAT!!!!

Son, you're in the wrong thread. We already have a "Religion Sickens Me" thread you clown.

And stop taking digs at The Lord. What's wrong with you?


(Use of caps lock, three dots, several exclamation marks, Rossi bashing, strange punctuation, sounding crazy, uhm, your post read eerily like ‘Alphabet’s’) (I'm gonna keep an eye on you).

Well, I have had a few...... I'm sorry, don't persecute me please. I was also bought up in the Roman Catholic system, which I fortunately rejected many years ago.. when I learnt to think for myself..