ESTORIL 2011-FP & QP

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Abraham was shaking his head and threw up his hand angrily at Stoner's antics. It's like Stoner's trying to piss everyone off.
 
With Stoner having a great bike this year it would be a shame to see him waste it with all this crap he is up to, unless that is what fuels him.



I think JL's manner of letting stuff like this feed his focus is a more efficient path.
 
really good session
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nothing against stoner but he acted like prick today cos he got the hump with himself again, he didnt knock anyone off but easilt could of collided.... the way he cut in front of hayden and abraham was uncalled for.



and dont say he wanted to get past there was otherways he could of without being so rude and aggresive.



oh and rossi if i hear shoulder after this session im gonna punch you init.



I think it is part of his overall mind game. He is just daring someone to say something about him riding aggressively. He accused Rossi of riding aggressively and suggested there was a bias that caused the officials to look the other way. The allegation of bias is out there and Dorna knows it. Now by doing all those things that Rossi has been allowed to do if any action is taken or Rossi whinges about it then Dorna and Rossi are going to look like fools.



I am beginning to think that there is someone behind the scenes who has laid out a strategy for Stoner to really shake things up. Maybe within Honda but more likely within the Stoner camp.
 
I think it is part of his overall mind game. He is just daring someone to say something about him riding aggressively. He accused Rossi of riding aggressively and suggested there was a bias that caused the officials to look the other way. The allegation of bias is out there and Dorna knows it. Now by doing all those things that Rossi has been allowed to do if any action is taken or Rossi whinges about it then Dorna and Rossi are going to look like fools.



I am beginning to think that there is someone behind the scenes who has laid out a strategy for Stoner to really shake things up. Maybe within Honda but more likely within the Stoner camp.



It did rather look like Stoner had lost patience and was nudging the slugs off the roadway.
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Seems like he'd been pretty cautious in the earlier sessions and in the last 5 minutes decided

there was no time left to dawdle. And of course there remains the possibility that he was

rehearsing the moves he expects to need if he's going head-to-head with The Cattolica Kid.
 
Anyone know why the time were so slow compared to previous years. I know last years q session was rained out, but in 09, the pole was 1.36.2, a full second faster than today.It was a dry session wasnt it.
 
Honestly WTF is Stoner on about???? Rossi was no where near him!!
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This is hilarious.......hes just pissed cause someone else can ride the Duck now!



Stoner certainly has some 'Mental' Issues at present, not too mention 2 Honda's ahead of him! How does this happen, hes a riding god isn't he? These ....... comments and stupid waving/patting his arse really are comical! Firstly he had no way of knowing how close Rossi was as from that distance he certainly couldn't have heard him......
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Elias was the one getting a great tow. But you didn't see Rossi carrying on.



So hate brigade how do we explain the Ducks speed now.......?
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I knew that you were getting WAY ahead of yourself with this post and the pre-mature gloating, but instead of responding last night I decided to simply wait for today.



You were saying.......
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nothing against stoner but he acted like prick today cos he got the hump with himself again, he didnt knock anyone off but easilt could of collided.... the way he cut in front of hayden and abraham was uncalled for.



and dont say he wanted to get past there was otherways he could of without being so rude and aggresive.

What? Damn, I must have looked away. At what time in Q did it happen so I can look. I may have to start hating Stoner pretty soon.
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Anyone know why the time were so slow compared to previous years. I know last years q session was rained out, but in 09, the pole was 1.36.2, a full second faster than today.It was a dry session wasnt it.

The track looked damp during fp2, it robbed them of time to get everything dialed in. If it's dry tomorrow we might see some better warmup times.
 
What? Damn, I must have looked away. At what time in Q did it happen so I can look. I may have to start hating Stoner pretty soon.
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It's true man, I did happen and it was pretty aggressive. Stoner and Hayden are my guys so I'm in some trouble on this one.....Stoner was pushing very hard and he certainly seemed to be sending the message that he's out for himself this season. I'd like to hear Nicky's take. I suspect we won't because Nicky almost never discusses the transgressions of his follow competitors but, I wonder if he found it to be a bit of an aggressive move or does he think that perhaps he was moving too slowly...watch it again and get back to us Jumks!
 
It's true man, I did happen and it was pretty aggressive. Stoner and Hayden are my guys so I'm in some trouble on this one.....Stoner was pushing very hard and he certainly seemed to be sending the message that he's out for himself this season. I'd like to hear Nicky's take. I suspect we won't because Nicky almost never discusses the transgressions of his follow competitors but, I wonder if he found it to be a bit of an aggressive move or does he think that perhaps he was moving too slowly...watch it again and get back to us Jumks!

Can you give me an idea at what time in the session please?





EDIT: Are you talking about the pass at 53.55? If that's it, no way, that was fine, agressive yes, harsh, no. Stoner was obviously going faster than Nicky, just check out how quickly he pulled away from him. The pass that he put on Abraham was a bit harsh (51:20) actually stood him up a little, but Stoner's pass on Nicky was ok. I think he got Abraham in a bad spot and decided to push it to get past him. Bad timing but I down malicious intent. But yeah, it was a bit harsh. About Nicky, Trust me, if he put a harsh pass on my boy, I would have been the first one to start throwing rock at Casey. I have no loyalties except to Nicky! You can take that to the bank!
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What? Damn, I must have looked away. At what time in Q did it happen so I can look. I may have to start hating Stoner pretty soon.
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Twice actually - I think, unless they were showing a replay. I was wondering if and when you were going to comment.
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And it wasn't just "cutting in front" he totally barged Nicky off the line - such as it was.
 
Can you give me an idea at what time in the session please?

Off the top of my head? NO! But if you're pressed for time I can review the ENTIRE SESSION in order the expedite the process for you. I'm aware that your time is far more valuable than mine
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Stand by and I'll try to find it for you.
 
BTW, I've forgot to mention, Abraham ahead of Nicky, are you ....... kidding me!



Cal Crutchlow, well done for a rookie carrying an injury.



Pedro, well done, less than a month from 'shoulder' surgery and in the front row. I wonder how many tenth's the injury is holding him back. Perhaps he could consult with Rossi.



Alvaro Bautista, I'm officially a fan. 41 days from busting up his leg and the drama of having the wound reopened, well done young lad.
 
Off the top of my head? NO! But if you're pressed for time I can review the ENTIRE SESSION in order the expedite the process for you. I'm aware that your time is for more valuable than mine
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Stand by and I'll try to find it for you.

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Just give me an idea. 1,2,3,4, quarter?
 
I think it is part of his overall mind game. He is just daring someone to say something about him riding aggressively. He accused Rossi of riding aggressively and suggested there was a bias that caused the officials to look the other way. The allegation of bias is out there and Dorna knows it. Now by doing all those things that Rossi has been allowed to do if any action is taken or Rossi whinges about it then Dorna and Rossi are going to look like fools.



I am beginning to think that there is someone behind the scenes who has laid out a strategy for Stoner to really shake things up. Maybe within Honda but more likely within the Stoner camp.





i got not problem at all stoner being aggressive in the RACE, but i think in quali its uncalled for, escpecially for nicky as all he has a ever done is praise stoner.



im a little bit confused, i say angry with himself and rossi rather than mind games, he wants the points back off lorenzo so i think he wanted to be closer to the front.
 
What? Damn, I must have looked away. At what time in Q did it happen so I can look. I may have to start hating Stoner pretty soon.
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in the race fine but in quali its uncalled for, riders aint expecting others to cut there inside line.



anyway i just got back in... is rossi whinging about the shoulder? I DAM HOPE NOT!
 
in the race fine but in quali its uncalled for, riders aint expecting others to cut there inside line.

Well which pass are you talking about? Give me the time in session. If its the one that happened at 53.55, then no way, it was fine. ...., it even looks like Nicky gives him space. Stoner's pass on Karel a minute before was a bit more aggressive.
 
Well which pass are you talking about? Give me the time in session. If its the one that happened at 53.55, then no way, it was fine. ...., it even looks like Nicky gives him space. Stoner's pass on Karel a minute before was a bit more aggressive.





il have a looky i havent reviewed it myself ..... be back soon
 
Did anyone see what went on between Lorenzo and Simoncelli? Apparently they had a right to do in the press conference after. Handbags at ten paces!
 

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