Casey and the Marshalls

O.k. - you're right, seriously - I'm being childish. The purpose of this forum is to debate not troll each other. I fully accept that it i possible to slide a motorcycle without downshift or without application of the rear, always have, although that is not what is meant by backing in a motorcycle.



So decorum restored...a civil question, in the face of this forum - see if you can answer it...why are flat trackers equipped with rear brakes?

Arrabbiata1 said:

O.k. -

rear brakes?

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....!! .... I can't stop!!!1







that works on several levels!!

BarryMachine said:

....!! .... I can't stop!!!1

that works on several levels!!

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So decorum restored...a civil question, in the face of this forum - see if you can answer it...why are flat trackers equipped with rear brakes?

Arrabbiata1 said:

So decorum restored...a civil question, in the face of this forum - see if you can answer it...why are flat trackers equipped with rear brakes?

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There are other bikes than flat trackers ....... with no rear brakes, like what Stoner rode as a kid ....... maybe they have back pedal brakes like this one?

BarryMachine said:

There are other bikes than flat trackers ....... with no rear brakes, like what Stoner rode as a kid ....... maybe they have back pedal brakes like this one?

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Sure, as I said, I understand that - just as I understand that there are multi disciplines involved in dirt riding. But this question is specifically about flat track riding. Leave Stoner aside just for once, why do you think it is that flat trackers - the sport that reared the likes of Kenny Roberts and his ilk, have only rear brakes?

BarryMachine said:

What don't you want me too?

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No I really don't want you - save that for your animal ... slaves

oh bugger that you don't get that!!



here ....

BarryMachine said:

oh bugger that you don't get that!!



here ....

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Yeah I do get that completely - as I said:

Arrabbiata1 said:

I fully accept that it i possible to slide a motorcycle without downshift or without application of the rear, always have, although that is not what is meant by backing in a motorcycle.

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Arrabbiata1 said:

Sure, as I said, I understand that - just as I understand that there are multi disciplines involved in dirt riding. But this question is specifically about flat track riding.

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So your point being?



Further, you claimed to be able to do on a Ducati 749 and on a public road precisely what that rider is doing in the dirt



Right now I'm asking a question purely in the context of flat track riding. Why do they equip flat track racing motorcycles with a back brake only?

Arrabbiata1 said:

Do you have any pictures of guys skidding it in Barry ....... Love from Arab

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Why most certainly Arab ....... here, this track looks fairly flat:





This is the best thing I've ever done on the intrynet Arab ...... thanks for starting me on a new and developing part of my otherwise mundane existence.

BarryMachine said:

Why most certainly Arab ....... here, this track looks fairly flat:

This is the best thing I've ever done on the intrynet Arab ...... thanks for starting me on a new and developing part of my otherwise mundane existence.

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But you ski, you surf, you ride, you hunt, you abuse animals.



Second best thing you've done on the net....the best was admitting to having ... with dogs and apes on a bike racing forum.



Please continue - I think it's great as well. I always enjoy seeing you make a fool of yourself... we're seeing how many times we can make you post the same picture ad nauseum again, just as we did with that little Troy chestnut - and you never realise. As the unflushable turd of Powerslide that's really no surprise. In fact you used it again yesterday. It also demonstrates your inability to debate or answer the question...which you are clearly incapable of doing. So continue to troll - you are merely confirming my point.



Why are flat track motorcycles equipped with rear brakes?

Gaz said:

Goat, Again, I ask you did he receive the same amount of help that Rossi received? That is the crux of the situation and nowhere have I said he did not receive help.

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Are you deliberately missing the point for some childish, Un-sophistaicated patriotic attempt at banter?

The point being , YES rossi appeared to get more help FIRST and i gave the reason's for this in my earlier post that you replied too. Once Rossi was out the way several marshals helped stoner which was pretty futile anyway. And yes im sure the marshals were not only aware stoner's bike was switched off but how hard these bikes are to get re-started.

Would you rather the marshals helped stoner to get started and going while leaving rossi's running bike on it's side in the gravel? Be realistic mate.



I agree with you that there should be a rule that forbids marshals trying to bump start bikes on the track. It's bloody dangerous. If you bike is switched off. Tough luck ,your out.

Arrabbiata1 said:

Why are flat track motorcycles equipped with rear brakes?

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They aren't well not many of them see here's one ...

BarryMachine said:

Oh well then since:

then this is yours I guess .......

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And this probably has different meaning to you.



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MdubSTYLIE said:

And this probably has different meaning to you.



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It most certainly does ..... to me it means .....





either that



or



skid!!!

BarryMachine said:

It most certainly does ..... to me it means .....

either that



or



skid!!!

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What skid marks on your knob after abusing an ape ?

chopperman said:

What skid marks on your knob after abusing an ape ?

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You got as much chance of that happening as you have backing it in doing ......................... this!!:

Arrabbiata1 said:

Why are flat track motorcycles equipped with rear brakes?

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BarryMachine said:

They aren't well not many of them

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Sorry, just got back in.



This is brilliant. Now we're getting somewhere. At the moment it's 3.00p.m GMT which makes it, what? midnight in NSW? and we're clearly keeping you up because you simply have to reply. Every time you do, by avoiding the question and posting the same image, you make yourself look progressively and exponentially more of an ......



Ok - for now we'll drop the flat track question - you simply can't comprehend it, 1- 0 Arrabb.



Here's how it works. I ask you a question in an attempt to promote and encourage rational discourse. Every time you fail to answer it's a point to me. Every time that you post the same image I get a bonus point - and you reveal yourself to be more of the troll like buffoon that you are. Win win situation - plus I'm keeping you up solely to post the same picture repeatedly - an indication of your sheer bloody mindedness and frustration. Currently it has been deployed 11 times on this thread and 5 times on another. Let's see how many times I can make you carry on given your inability to debate with me.



1- 0 to Arrabb, 16 posts of the same image. Let's get you up to 100 and keep you up 'til dawn - (unless you were already planning to .... a pig all night).



Next question: Forgetting rear brakes, do you accept that as the foremost proponents of the backing in method, supermoto riders will tend to utilise largely the downshift to slide into corners?

Arrabbiata1 said:

Sorry, just got "back in".

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No did not!!!



not by doing this!!!



Thats not "backing it in, within the inwards direction!! ........... thats skidding.

chopperman said:

Are you deliberately missing the point for some childish, Un-sophistaicated patriotic attempt at banter?

The point being , YES rossi appeared to get more help FIRST and i gave the reason's for this in my earlier post that you replied too. Once Rossi was out the way several marshals helped stoner which was pretty futile anyway. And yes im sure the marshals were not only aware stoner's bike was switched off but how hard these bikes are to get re-started.

Would you rather the marshals helped stoner to get started and going while leaving rossi's running bike on it's side in the gravel? Be realistic mate.



I agree with you that there should be a rule that forbids marshals trying to bump start bikes on the track. It's bloody dangerous. If you bike is switched off. Tough luck ,your out.

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So why did it then need 5 guys to push him when his bike was already going? I think garry and I are both defending stoner's right to think he was not treated equally, in a circumstance when he was understandably furious in the first place (garry in his usual measured fashion, me in a more over the top fashion), with is what cali kid, not a noted rossi basher , contended in the post which opened the thread.



We all agree the marshalls generally do a great and selfless job, one garry has done himself, and that stoner had no place to be arguing about what the Sachsenring marshalls did last week, different people in a different country who had little or nothing to do with the jerez marshalls in any case.

BarryMachine said:

No did not!!!



not by doing this!!!

Thats not "backing it in, within the inwards direction!! ........... thats skidding.

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So you're saying that supermoto riders don't back in using the down shift. Let's define our terms. What is 'backing in' then? What constitutes backing in?