Not clear! Selective quoting, bad Jumkie. Here is the link you didn't provide, but to be honest, as evidence, SBP is worse than MCN.
Soup :: Furusawa: I have no idea what might happen ... :: 12-18-2012
The bit you rely on is SBP "staff" (when Dean Adams doesn't want to put his name to an article) interpretation of what Furusawa actually said. There is no quote to go with this statement and the later quotes about Masahiko Nakajima, (President of Yamaha Motor Racing, ie Yam's racing division!!) paint a rather different picture:
Not Clear! Again no link. Googling "Rossi "got the good stuff" Randy Mamola Alpinestars" returns a single hit - your post on here on Jan 16th 2013, again without a link. Even less like evidence than your SBP quote-without-a-link [emoji14]
http://motogpforum.com/motogp/14675-door-always-open-stoner-return-4.html
If Rossi's SNS's were so much better than everyone elses how did Elias beat him on DPs?
For any of this diatribe to make sense one has to accept that Rossi
deliberately crashed MM out. Where is your evidence for this? Yes VR was in the wrong in taking a non-racing line, slowing dramatically and running MM to the edge of the track.
However there is no evidence that VR deliberately caused or intended to cause MM to crash. Yes MM shouldn't have had to make a decision to brake more or run off track and that was VRs fault, but to make the decision to accelerate into the space occupied by VR's bike was unusual to say the least. Even Doohan commented as much.
Doohan says "best rider won" MotoGP title
TBH, whilst the speed of the incident does not exonerate, if you are saying that pushing a rider to the edge of the track and leaving him no option but to go off track, however little, or ride into you is an issue, then MM did it to VR a few corners before at full racing speed. Its just that Rossi went over the rumble strip and off the track slightly and didn't end up off his bike and on his arse on the tarmac. I no more think MM was trying to crash VR out then than I think VR was trying to crash MM out during the incident in question.
Regarding your twisting of the word "normal" I agree (and said as much) that there have been incidents where RD in both bike racing and F1 should have suspended licenses. However they have not. Hence a license suspension is not
normal even for a major incident, however much you or I or anyone else thinks it should be.
Yamaka46, you know I like you and think you're knowledgeable, but brother Rossi has you whipped and logic out the window. Hahaha
YAMAHA RACING DIDN'T WANT VALENTINO ROSSI.
I selected a quote from the article that states plainly Yamaha racing DID NOT want Rossi back. Your big retort is to say it's selective quoting?
"Among the bombshells: Furusawa said Yamaha's racing division didn't want Valentino Rossi to return in 2013, but Rossi's massive commercial value to the team won the internal debate."
How the hell is that not clear?
There is nothing to debate here. End of story, they didn't want him. They being the fuckers who work in the RACING garage as well as those in charge of it.
Now you want to move the goal post, saying Nakajima, president of racing division, who was fed up with Rossi, was disappointed with Lorenzo who went looking for his best options; to mean suddenly Nakajima was back in love with Rossi? How does Nakajima disappointed with Lorenzo equate to Nakajima wanting Rossi back? Let me see if your logic holds water: I hate my ex wife, hate her ....... guts, never want to see that ..... again, but I caught my new wife staring at the Chippendales hardbody male review, so based on Yamaka logic, this now means I love my ex wife and want her back? Is that the dream logic you live in buddy?
Try to understand there are separate things going on in that article, but only ONE theme, Yamaha racing did NOT want Rossi back!
1. Furusawa dropped the bomb about Yamaha racing not wanting Rossi back.
2. Furusawa says the president of Yamaha racing, Nakajima no longer wanted to work with Rossi.
3. Furusawa says it's a nightmare to work with Rossi.
4. Furusawa says Nakajima was disappointed that Lorenzo had gone looking to see what he could get with Honda.
5. Btw Furusawa predicted the relationship would deteriorate in the Yamaha garage, thanks to Rossi's ego. He was spot on.
Btw, if you think Dean Adams is lying, email him. He will return your email. Go ahead, call him a ....... liar. Post his response. I've talked to him, his replies are no holds bar. He'll give you his answer.
SNS WERE SPECIAL TIRES DESIGNED FOR ROSSI
If I'm the only Google hit regarding SNS and Rossi getting the good stuff, then take that to the bank, that's as good as gold. But hey, maybe the SNS didn't exist. Because then when you read about it you'll say, how did Mamola know, did he work for Michelin? Then if he did you'd say, well was he the guy at the company making the tire? Then you'll say, was he the guy handing Rossi said tire?
SNS were a special tire constructed based on the specific parameters for the Sunday race. That other riders also got them means you concede their existence. But in typical fashion, Rossi fans move the goal post at this point and say, but but but others got them too. EXCEPT for "Saturday Night Special" is a misnomer, they could just as easily be called 'ROSSI’S SPECIALS'. Now let's re-ask your question:
"But what about the other riders on 'Rossi’s Specials'?"
If you were to accept this (and I know you don't) then you would begin to see the absurdity of asking such a question.
I'll spell it out: How good would riders be on tires design NOT for them in mind? Edwards said, Rossi likes tires hard, I couldn't make them work for me. So let's imagine everybody on Edward's tires then. How well would that work for Rossi? Hence why sometimes riders opted out of SNS. Either way they were screwed. Michelin had a tier system. This much you concede. What does a tier system imply? Oh oh, but where is the proof that Rossi was at the top of that tier?! Hey Yamaka46, maybe Rossi was at the bottom of that tier system, eh?
ROSSI GUILTY OF DELIBERATELY CRASHING OUT MARQUEZ
Now on to the scary portion of your post. You ask where is my evidence for Rossi deliberately crashing out Marquez. You've gone on to compile a list of egregious racing actions, none of which have the rider admitted to deliberately initiating the action in a race EXCEPT Rossi. That action resulted in the victim crashing, and your defense is to ask where is my proof because the perpetrator said he didn't mean to do that? What is proof to you? That the perpetrator of the crime needs to confess?
Judge Yamaka46: How do you plead?
Perpetrator: Not guilty your honor.
Judge Yamaka46: Case dismissed, the perpetrator stated he is not guilty.
You keep separating the actions by Rossi in the typical insane bopper method of compartmentalizing the action to run Marquez off the track as if at some point because Marquez evasion failed it's Marquez fault.
Judge Yamaka46: what happened?
Victim: well your honor, the guy surprised me (and everyone in the world for thar matter) he tried to run me off the road suddenly, rammed his vehicle towards me, kept doing it too, playing with the throttle and brakes, until I fell over.
Judge Yamaka46: I see. What do you have to say for yourself perpetrator of this act?
Perpetrator: well, I admit, I did try to ram him off the road. I didn't like how he was racing mean, passing me cleanly and all. So yes, I ADMIT I DELIBERATELY ran him off the road.
Judge Yamaka46: I see, but did you mean for him to crash? Because if you admit it you will be disqualified and possibly a race ban. You see son, if you admit to more of your deed, then it will be on public record, and we won't be able to offer you the benefit of the doubt. That's what confessions.
Perpetrator: oh, no your honor, I didn't mean for the little .... that I was angry at in the moment I lost my mind...to crash. Oh, no sir. I only admit to running him off the road, in an action never seen before in more than 30 years, if ever. Which I ADMIT to doing, but honest, I had the presence of mind not to crash him, even though I lost my mind when I tried to run him off. Honest.
Judge Yamaka46 : alright then, there is no evidence to show that the perpetrator deliberately tried to crash the victim.
Victim: but your honor, the perpetrator admitted to running me off the road!
Judge Yamaka46: well, first of all you little ..... You were suspect from the beginning. Second, after slowing down the film to 1/1000th of real time, it looks to me you could have avoided the whole thing.
NORMAL PUNISHMENT FOR A FELONY IS A MISDEMEANOR SANCTION
Regarding your 'what is normal punishment' for a competitor to deliberately crash another fellow competitor in an 'active contest', through violence that endangers the life of the victim: your retort is to point out sanctions for far less violations. Let's test your logic.
Jum, I've compiled a list of far less egregious racing crimes (not even Hanika's incident was done during a race) my entire list is comprised of riders simply riding mindlessly or recklessly AT WORST, for the most part during a race, often times deem 'racing incidents' with a merit to sanction. Race Direction didn't suspend anybody's license. So that is normal for worse crimes. So you see, my list of misdemeanors means Rossi’s felony should be treated the same. That would be NORMAL right?
Have you stopped to question why Rossi’s action leading to a crash was not deemed a "racing incident"? Seriously, do you know why? Answer : because Rossi's action ceased the act of RACING! It was no longer racing! Racing ceased to exist!
Judge Yamaka46: bailiff, have the felon enter the court for sentencing.
Accused: hello your honor.
Judge Yamaka46: you have been found guilty of a felony crime. There is no precedent for your level of crime, we've never seen this before, it was that bad. However, I see here a list of a bunch of misdemeanors and the sentence that was issued. Therefore, because the crimes are not the same, but sorta kinda seem the same, I'm going to sentence you a far less punishment than even the most egregious misdemeanors.
Accused: thank you your honor, that seems normal.
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