Can Ducati get two wins in 2016??
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There are none, and I would be embarrassed if I was one of the millions of sheep who jumped on that bandwagon after Rossi planted the seed. You know who you are.
This post is just a bunch of ......... I just watched the race, if this is what you call 'play' you don't know what play is. Rossi stayed behind and never even got up along side. Was he faster? Probably but not as you suggest and he never passed/repassed 6 times like MM did. With 4 laps remaining he got a great run out of the last chicane and sped past on the straight. Then he opened up the throttle and you can clearly see the bike wobbling and Rossi sliding it and braking very deep, he was on the limit. Rossi has won countless races like this. Barros also sped up, but it was only the second to last lap where Rossi lapped 1 second quicker. It is amazing the anti Rossi spin on this forum. Playing with him....
GTFOThis post is just a bunch of ......... I just watched the race, if this is what you call 'play' you don't know what play is. Rossi stayed behind and never even got up along side. Was he faster? Probably but not as you suggest and he never passed/repassed 6 times like MM did. With 4 laps remaining he got a great run out of the last chicane and sped past on the straight. Then he opened up the throttle and you can clearly see the bike wobbling and Rossi sliding it and braking very deep, he was on the limit. Rossi has won countless races like this. Barros also sped up, but it was only the second to last lap where Rossi lapped 1 second quicker. It is amazing the anti Rossi spin on this forum. Playing with him....
Sounds very much like the widely condemned method MM employed to win the most recent PI race.
The recent discussion anyway was mainly in regard to Keshav saying he had never seen a slower rider keep a faster rider behind him by blocking tactics for a significant number of laps, to which the answer as is the case with many questions is Laguna Seca 2008.
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... second to last lap where Rossi lapped 1 second quicker. It is amazing the anti Rossi spin on this forum. Playing with him....
Wait wait, so Marquez was guilty of playing with Rossi because he found a second on the last lap at Phillip Island? But that same logic doesn't apply to Rossi? Oh, you've painted yourself into a corner.
Sorry Jums, you lost me.
My belief is quite simple ..................... all is much ado about nothing be that PI, Sepang or Valencia as what we saw was racing and that if there was no Thursday press conference, then there would be no discussion of the type that has been occurring
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Before the Thursday press conference I suggest that there was probably a dozen or so people who genuinely believed it .......... all to be found in the same garage at Sepang (and I do not necessarily mean Yamaha employees)
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Ah thanks for laughs papa, I can just picture your outrage pounding this out on your keyboard.This post is just a bunch of ......... I just watched the race, if this is what you call 'play' you don't know what play is. Rossi stayed behind and never even got up along side. Was he faster? Probably but not as you suggest and he never passed/repassed 6 times like MM did. With 4 laps remaining he got a great run out of the last chicane and sped past on the straight. Then he opened up the throttle and you can clearly see the bike wobbling and Rossi sliding it and braking very deep, he was on the limit. Rossi has won countless races like this. Barros also sped up, but it was only the second to last lap where Rossi lapped 1 second quicker. It is amazing the anti Rossi spin on this forum. Playing with him....
Anyone normal person watching that race, including the commentators knew Rossi and his +30 hp V5 Honda could blast past Barros anytime. To quote Harris "Can Rossi pass, most certainly, he's just stalking him". Stalking? How unethical haha LMFAO
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He was faster but...........................oh dear like MM was faster at Sepang? Haha LMFAO GTFO!
Seriously though papa they are free to race anyway they chose within the rules. WTF have ethics got to do with it? Rossi rode the way he had to to win the race at Laguna 08 other than the corkscrew it was within the rules. Marquez rode within the rules, using legitimate race tactics, as Rossi is famous for, once passed to immediately re-pass. And Rossi was doing the same back. So whats the problem, other than Lorenzo is W/C?
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It wasn't a second he found on the last lap , it was more like a half second and Lorenzo slowed by about 4/10 ths. Either way pap is full of ...., Rossi played with mediocre talent for years. It was as predictable as the sun coming up. Follow for 90% of the race, make an easy pass and win by 3 seconds and fanboys go wild . Why do you think the boppers hate it when a rider like Stoner or Lorenzo takes off from turn one and wins by 5-6 seconds and blather on about how they don't like a fight. They think what Rossi was doing was heroic or some stupid ...., when it wasn't a fight at all. It was toying with inferior riders on inferior tires and was a sham. I can't believe sheeple can be so gullible. One thing for sure, he hasn't been able to play with the second wave of talent that arrived 06-08-13. If anything , he is now the play toy. You could say Rossi is Gibernau or Biaggi with a title since everyone's been racing on equal tires.
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Yeah, I knew it was far less than a second for Marc at PI, and I said as much when the debate raged for the exact same reason you mention. It was Papabozzo and others who insisted the evidence for Marc's guilt was that he found a whole "second" on the last lap, I didn't want to confuse Bozzo if I went into the explanation. I just wanted to point out the double standard and keeping his toddler analysis with the 1 second figure so as to keep it simple for him.
And agree about the rest of your post. Again 'perception'! Everyone watching was thinking each rider was lapping at their best pace based on pure racing performance of themselves combined with their machine. Unaware that Rossi had a package advantage that allowed him to cruise calmly, building up that tension, then ease past for the win. I've watched the races with friends who have no idea about the sport's parity, and look at the motorcycles as equals. They figure, well all of them have two wheels, etc. You can say many viewed the races from 01-05 in the same ignorant way.
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This post is just a bunch of ......... I just watched the race, if this is what you call 'play' you don't know what play is. Rossi stayed behind and never even got up along side. Was he faster? Probably but not as you suggest and he never passed/repassed 6 times like MM did. With 4 laps remaining he got a great run out of the last chicane and sped past on the straight. Then he opened up the throttle and you can clearly see the bike wobbling and Rossi sliding it and braking very deep, he was on the limit. Rossi has won countless races like this. Barros also sped up, but it was only the second to last lap where Rossi lapped 1 second quicker. It is amazing the anti Rossi spin on this forum. Playing with him....
Birdman beat me to it. Yes for boppers like Paparazzo, when Rossi does it he is a 'shark' and just stalking riders, but when Marquez does it (and only goes 0.5s faster instead of 1s faster) he's a cheat and conspiring to defeat Rossi, a fellow competitor.
You can't wriggle out of this one Paps, for you are quoted above as saying Rossi gained a 1s advantage when he decided he wanted to, so haha!
Oh and GET THE .... OUT. :....: :....:
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How "........" is this guy? He just spent the last two months building a case against Marquez being a farce based on his assertion that Marc gained a "second" at PI out of thin air as proof. Then he goes and concedes Rossi did the same ...., except Rossi is pure integrity. Hahaha, you can't dream this .... up.
The other thing is that, while Pap is almost uniquely in the Internet world in the minority view on here and I occasionally feel some guilt in taking him to task given I feel he deserves some credit for having the courage of his convictions, is that all this springs from accusations made by Rossi and his fans of a particular ilk, and before the pre- Sepang press conference no-one even on here was paying out on him for his performance in the 2015 season, even long term detractors were mostly giving him credit if grudgingly. It is Rossi who made the outre (just for you Pap) and unprovable accusations against MM, and on whom the onus of proof lies, not those who consider the accusations to be baseless, and calling those who question the allegations as having the problem with prejudice is a total inversion of the actual situation.
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I nearly always totally agree with your knowledgeable and insightful takes on almost anything to do with GP bike racing, but in all fairness I think it is tough to criticise Rossi for being a much better rider than his competitors in his early premier class career, he could only compete against the riders who turned up.
I am not sure he had a massive bike advantage in most of those years, leaving aside the tyre issue, particularly in 2004 and to a lesser extent 2005 but there is absolutely no question he did in 2002 in the first year of the 990 formula, when he was literally riding a different bike than any other vaguely competitive rider; no 500s were competing by 2003. Rossi didn't have it all his own way when Barros finally got on a 990 at the end of 2002.
Poor old Paps demonstrates the perils of viewing old race footage knowing only the heroic Rossi narrative whilst in ignorance of any context.
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I have no sympathy with someone who uses "GTFO" like a pre-teen girl in all their posts.
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All threads seem to be hijacked toward that topic...or they are about kitchens
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Don't forget artificial .... enhancement aids.
(Though if you think about it, I guess that's also related to Rossi.)
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NO Its a Marquez thing... :furious: lol
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