Yamaka my friend, Lin Jarvis last month sat there and defended Rossi for his actions at Sepang. Perhaps you also have a quote from Uccio that Valentino Rossi is an honest guy and that Carmelo is impartial?
"But that loyalty hasn't prevented Furusawa from shedding revealing shafts of light about the inner workings of Yamaha in a recent interview with an Italian publication. Among the bombshells: Furusawa said Yamaha's racing division didn't want Valentino Rossi to return in 2013, but Rossi's massive commercial value to the team won the internal debate." Superbikeplanet Dec. 2012
Clear?
Not clear! Selective quoting, bad Jumkie. Here is the link you didn't provide, but to be honest, as evidence, SBP is worse than MCN.
Soup :: Furusawa: I have no idea what might happen ... :: 12-18-2012
The bit you rely on is SBP "staff" (when Dean Adams doesn't want to put his name to an article) interpretation of what Furusawa actually said. There is no quote to go with this statement and the later quotes about Masahiko Nakajima, (President of Yamaha Motor Racing, ie Yam's racing division!!) paint a rather different picture:
Furusawa said:
"Before Jorge arrived at Yamaha, Nakajima liked Valentino very much," Furusawa said. "Then he began to prefer Jorge, because sometimes it is hard to deal with Valentino. Instead, Jorge was young and easy to deal with.
"With Lorenzo, everything went well at Yamaha until they learned of his negotiations with Honda, back in early 2012. Nakajima was really hurt and changed attitude toward him. He understood that Jorge behaves like the other riders, in the sense that he looks after his interests.
"Valentino's return comes in this atmosphere, and I have no idea what might happen."
"What about the other riders on SNS." Speaking of Randy Mamola, he was clear about the answer to this question, despite others also getting SNS it was widely known Rossi "got the good stuff". Randy Mamola, Alpinestars report.
Clear?
Not Clear! Again no link. Googling "Rossi "got the good stuff" Randy Mamola Alpinestars" returns a single hit - your post on here on Jan 16th 2013, again without a link. Even less like evidence than your SBP quote-without-a-link
http://motogpforum.com/motogp/14675-door-always-open-stoner-return-4.html
If Rossi's SNS's were so much better than everyone elses how did Elias beat him on DPs?
Karel Hanika did not deliberately crash out another competitor during a 'race' as much as Marc Marquez didn't deliberately crash out the Thai rider during a contest. Rossi did! And not for position in the act of racing but rather to eliminate the rival from the contest. I don't think this distinction is fully appreciated or comprehended. You are mistaking "normal" for common. This act is so rare (and rightly so) that there is no sense of usual for it, no precedent; however the logical penalty for such an act, one so antithetical to the principle of a contest, was clear, that immediate disqualification and suspension was in order. Even in Mike Webb's explanation, which is contradiction at best, says Rossi may have crashed out Marquez by accident solely on taking Rossi at his word, simply because VR said he didn't mean it. Yet, in contradiction Webb says the evidence points otherwise while not having the balls to act on this dishonesty? I've said this before, this should give us pause as to the impartiality of such "reasoning"--where the perpetrator is given the benefit of the doubt in a crime. Even while Webb says looking at the evidence they think Rossi "deliberately ran wide". Yamaka46, if you are willing to give Mike Webb any credibility here then it's useless for us to debate. Webb is so clearly looking for a way to issue the most minimum of sanctions. This guy has as much credibility for his decision here as a quote from Uccio that absolves Rossi of wrongdoing. Its a joke.
None of your examples are as egregious as Rossi’s, say it with me--he deliberately eliminated a fellow competitor by crashing him out during the contest for the points paying position! When have you seen this? I cannot think of a single time. When Capirossi crashed out Harada it was to eliminate the rival from securing a points tally, that is Loris was happy not to tally any points himself; when Rossi crashed out Marquez it was so he could cheat a tally of points for the third position that he otherwise couldn't achieve by contesting it. Both of these cases, extremely rare, deserved a ban and suspension. That is the "normal" I speak of BECAUSE competition ceases to exist if this is not punished severely. Its CHEATING worse than doping because it's done by means of putting the other rival's life in the balance. If you argue like some have that this was not dangerous on account of the speed or whatever other ludicrous explanation, our debate is futile. Rossi put Marquez 's life in danger while cheating for the points offered by the position.
Rossi deserved immediate black flag to eliminate him as a danger to others and himself, then a license suspension as this was more severe than doping--the worst form of cheating because this was done through violence.
For any of this diatribe to make sense one has to accept that Rossi
deliberately crashed MM out. Where is your evidence for this? Yes VR was in the wrong in taking a non-racing line, slowing dramatically and running MM to the edge of the track.
However there is no evidence that VR deliberately caused or intended to cause MM to crash. Yes MM shouldn't have had to make a decision to brake more or run off track and that was VRs fault, but to make the decision to accelerate into the space occupied by VR's bike was unusual to say the least. Even Doohan commented as much.
Doohan says "best rider won" MotoGP title
Doohan said:
"They're both probably to blame I think," said the Australian. "If I was in Marquez's shoes, I think there would have been a couple of options.
"You either run off the track or shut the throttle down. To try and turn into somebody when there's a bike there seemed a bit odd."
TBH, whilst the speed of the incident does not exonerate, if you are saying that pushing a rider to the edge of the track and leaving him no option but to go off track, however little, or ride into you is an issue, then MM did it to VR a few corners before at full racing speed. Its just that Rossi went over the rumble strip and off the track slightly and didn't end up off his bike and on his arse on the tarmac. I no more think MM was trying to crash VR out then than I think VR was trying to crash MM out during the incident in question.
Regarding your twisting of the word "normal" I agree (and said as much) that there have been incidents where RD in both bike racing and F1 should have suspended licenses. However they have not. Hence a license suspension is not
normal even for a major incident, however much you or I or anyone else thinks it should be.
