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Aragon GP 2011: RACE

Whether or not the race was boring is in the eye of the beholder. But one thing is for sure. FIVE ....... PAGES OF DEBATING WHETHER OR NOT THE RACE IS BORING IS THE MOST BORING THING EVER.



Had to go to a freakin' stupid wedding and missed watching the race live. So far I can't watch it on MGP site because the arseholes have the wrong video loaded up. When I click on Aragon 2011 - the stupid Dorna computer plays the race from Misano. Same with the Moto 2. And after reading this thread so laden with comments about how boring the race is - I feel too entombed in enui to try and watch it once Dorna does gets the feeds right. The weekend from hell.
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I cannot help but be skeptical about using this information to draw conclusions. Firstly as you say you have no verification, and secondly you are taking the opinion of someone who is not only involved in the competition, but who is losing. Perhaps more so than us sat on our armchairs people in this position will be desperate to explain the difference between their efforts and winning one, desperate to allocate the performance difference to something outside of their own team's performance. That is fundamental in such a competitive environment. All I am saying is, it is extremely unlikely a principal in the moto2 paddock can be considered a reliable or nuetral source

Bingo. If there is one pure unadulterated truth in the world, its that no matter where you go in the racing world, there is some guy in the paddock saying, Im as good as him, if i had his equipment i would be winning too. Jum, you can tell us what you heard, without telling us who said it.Spit it out, inquiring minds want to know.
 
I can only take so much whining before i snap. I just cannot wrap my head around anyone who does nothing but ..... and complain and constantly telling me how bored they are. If you ....... bored, find something that doesnt bore you. I will just go ahead and make predictions for the next 4 races. Stoner fans will be happy, Rossi fans will not, Curve will be bored, and Lex will continue to push for spec racing, then say he didnt..



I'm the one who theorized that reckless pursuit of motorsports ideology creates "blue skies" vs. "spec fairness for all". If I lament the false dichotomy, do you suppose I'm dumb enough to sharpen my pitchfork and pledge allegiance to one side or another? If I'm forced to choose between two bad solutions to a problem that doesn't even exist, I don't play.



Entertainment is not always sport, but sport is always entertaining. If MotoGP isn't entertaining, it isn't sport. What makes GP unsporting? I guess it is a matter of personal opinion. Imo, the fans are kept at arms length to protect sensitive technologies that don't really serve any purpose. The technical regulations encourage useless technology, but the manufacturers support the regulations b/c they create an exclusive club. The exclusive club gives MotoGP its brand identity. Doesn't sound like racing, does it? Predictably, the racing has deteriorated, and manufacturers wonder if exclusivity is worth the price tag.



You ignore MSMA indiscretion b/c your mission is to combat spec racing. Someone tells you "blue skies" is the answer so you write blank checks for "the solution" even if the solution is actually the problem. The bigger the problem gets, the more people it pushes into the spec racing camp. Once you go spec, you almost never go back. You're inadvertently a one man army for the cause of spec racing.



I support stricter rules in production bike racing b/c I understand the production market and the underlying concept. Production means available for sale to the general public. Barriers to participation by private teams should be minimal. Furthermore, production racing should represent a small club of manufacturers who actually have the means to mass-produce good products for customers. Production bike racing can be construed as a form of consumer protection. Unfortunately, prototype racing is where new brands/companies are born so the MSMA must maintain control at all costs to eliminate competition. If Nicola Romeo were still alive, I'd ask him if he regrets doing business with Enzo Ferrari.



I've suggested that MotoGP use horsepower limitations, and I've suggested numerous methods to avoid 4-cylinder rules and 81mm bore limits. I'd even be willing to stay with the 800s if they raise fuel capacity to 24L. I don't care for spec racing, but I'm not going to support the status quo either.
 
Rossi declared he is slower now than Casey was last year on the same bike even on the straights.....that is very strange.....

Its very strange because its untrue. The Ducati that Rossi rode yesterday was 10kph faster on the straights than the Ducati Stoner rode last year
 
Out of curiosity, i looked to see how close Casey was to breaking Lorenzo's record point total from last year. Even after the season Casey has had, he will have to win all 4 remaining races to beat Lorenzo's total. Makes you realize how special a year Lorenzo had in 2010.
 
Now that is just a huge mind .... for Rossi, that CS was 1 second faster in race time at Aragon with the 2010 Duc!



Holy ....!
 
Its very strange because its untrue. The Ducati that Rossi rode yesterday was 10kph faster on the straights than the Ducati Stoner rode last year



Not to mention the fact that it is not remotely the same bike
 
Out of curiosity, i looked to see how close Casey was to breaking Lorenzo's record point total from last year. Even after the season Casey has had, he will have to win all 4 remaining races to beat Lorenzo's total. Makes you realize how special a year Lorenzo had in 2010.



yeah where is Criville this year?
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But watching Marquez in certain moments, im reminded of what i heard that questioned the evenhandedness of the process. So i wont argue...for now.



Just to add...



I've watched the race again this evening, and felt quite confused why you chose this weekend to air your views about engine disparity. I noticed on more than one occasion that Marquez, on the new Suter, with his light weight was following Iannone on the long back straight and even when Andrea had a pretty decent look round couldn't get far enough alongside to take the line into the last corner. That is with slipstream, the difference just wasn't that massive
 
Now that is just a huge mind .... for Rossi, that CS was 1 second faster in race time at Aragon with the 2010 Duc!



Holy ....!

And thats not 1 second faster than Rossi's time, thats one second faster than his own time on "the unbeatable Honda'. To be fair though, the conditions were drastically different this year. But yea, Rossi is going to wear that WTF helmet a bunch.
 
Had to go to a freakin' stupid wedding and missed watching the race live. So far I can't watch it on MGP site because the arseholes have the wrong video loaded up. When I click on Aragon 2011 - the stupid Dorna computer plays the race from Misano. Same with the Moto 2. And after reading this thread so laden with comments about how boring the race is - I feel too entombed in enui to try and watch it once Dorna does gets the feeds right. The weekend from hell.
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Bro, I watched it last night on the no-spoilers feed. Unless I was way higher than I thought, I was for sure watching Aragon. Ductape numbers on repsols, yup thats the race.
 
Out of curiosity, i looked to see how close Casey was to breaking Lorenzo's record point total from last year. Even after the season Casey has had, he will have to win all 4 remaining races to beat Lorenzo's total. Makes you realize how special a year Lorenzo had in 2010.



Just for giggles, here's a list of the points won by the champ over the last 30 years. Casey's year to date has been strong, but is not as overwhelming as you might think. Even 2010 was kinda weak compared to a few of Mick's stompers.



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Its very strange because its untrue. The Ducati that Rossi rode yesterday was 10kph faster on the straights than the Ducati Stoner rode last year

Yes...very strange:

Stoner 2011 race time 42,17 minutes

Stoner 2010 race time 42,16 minutes



Rossi Ducati 2011 - 328,8 km/h

Stoner Ducati 2010 - 319,8 km.h
 
Basicly GP racing





Nothing?!?! All you Boner types are the same, refusing to see the truth. Rossi made history today!!! He didn't even start on the race track and be passed a whole SHITLOAD of guys!! What did your guy do? Passed one or two and just did time trials after that, put me to ....... sleep!! And started from the front....hell even PedroLAMEbot can do that.



Boner in SNOOZEE CONTROL



Rossi making history.



Think about it





This perhaps in an offbeat kind of way explains why I am an atheist.



Someone claims a miraculous event



And I still don't see it.



Help me here please - explain the miracle - how history was made



Now winning back to back titles and races with two different manufacturers was cool and I can see the juju



It may be the drugs I'm on but this needs some work (sorry if I seems dense at the moment)



A cogent explanation that cuts through oxycontin
 
This perhaps in an offbeat kind of way explains why I am an atheist.



Someone claims a miraculous event



And I still don't see it.



Help me here please - explain the miracle - how history was made



Now winning back to back titles and races with two different manufacturers was cool and I can see the juju



It may be the drugs I'm on but this needs some work (sorry if I seems dense at the moment)



A cogent explanation that cuts through oxycontin



And here I thought that drugs were needed to see the miracle... guess I was wrong again
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