Sachsenring race!!!

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frizzle

Joined Sep 2007

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Melbourne

• Jul 19, 2009

• #41

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 19 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>guess you didn't see him in the garage then ?


Yes I did. He looked at the tyre and patted the tank. What is your problem Rog?

 

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chopperman

Joined Sep 2006

23K Posts | 3+

• Jul 19, 2009

• #42

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jul 19 2009, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Team orders is ridiculous. They raced each other hard the whole race.
totally agree. theres know way jorge would take such orders.

 

Keshav

Joined Aug 2007

11K Posts | 3K+

Pomona NY

• Jul 19, 2009

• #43

You get the feeling that Lorenzo is more obsessed with
beating Rossi - than he is with actually winning the race.

 

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chopperman

Joined Sep 2006

23K Posts | 3+

• Jul 19, 2009

• #44

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jul 19 2009, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes I did. He looked at the tyre and patted the tank. What is your problem Rog?
i got no problem mate. but he ran wide on to the dirty part of the track then looked at his rear on track then in the garage. ummm you tend to loose grip on the marbles casey

Why would i have a problem ? my 2 fav riders came 1st and second but i can understand why the casey apologists are pissy -28 pts.

 

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hawkdriver

Joined Feb 2009

1K Posts | 7+

New Orleans

• Jul 19, 2009

• #45

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jul 19 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>team orders LMFAO go and watch the catalunya race and make up your mind...
Did you see the way Rossi was slamming the door on Jorge, I just don't understand why he doesn't race Rossi the way Rossi races him. Yeah he is fast and hungry but I want to see him become ruthless and in command. I just think Jorge is better than what he has done on the last few laps of the recent races, look at the lap times.

 

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chopperman

Joined Sep 2006

23K Posts | 3+

• Jul 19, 2009

• #46

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 19 2009, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You get the feeling that Lorenzo is more obsessed with
beating Rossi - than he is with actually winning the race.
not at all.

he said we are happy because where always in front, where always improving and next sunday we will win the race.

 

MdubSTYLIE

Joined May 2009

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Shovel's Club

• Jul 19, 2009

• #47

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jul 19 2009, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Geez even cops it for just looking at the rear tyre. Why aren't we sticking it to Dovi?
Same dipshit fans time & time again. We got a great race on a track that doesn't always produce close racing. But lets rider bash instead hey?
Because dovi didn't blow one corner after running his fastest lap, and start staring down at his rear. Dovi kept trying and trying and trying before finally giving in. Dovi seems to cook his tires a lot. Maybe CS should start running intermediates in the dry. I think you all can figure out why.

 

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thephorest

Joined Feb 2007

472 Posts | 0+

Nagoya, Japan

• Jul 19, 2009

• #48

Nicky tried the old "ride round the outside of everybody and take advantage of the Repsol's acceleration" trick. Didn't work!! Everybody stuck it to him bigtime on the first lap. I was slamming my fist on the couch for a while there.

At least he's getting to terms with the bike though. He's the first one to really do it on the Duc besides Stoner, IMO. Melandri had one miracle finish and then was at the back of the pack the rest of the season. Nicky is consistently near the top 5 in every practice and race.

 

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frizzle

Joined Sep 2007

1K Posts | 24+

Melbourne

• Jul 19, 2009

• #49

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 19 2009, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because dovi didn't blow one corner after running his fastest lap, and start staring down at his rear. Dovi kept trying and trying and trying before finally giving in. Dovi seems to cook his tires a lot. Maybe CS should start running intermediates in the dry. I think you all can figure out why.

Do you realise how silly that comment is? Stoner made a mistake - wow get the noose now.

 

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chopperman

Joined Sep 2006

23K Posts | 3+

• Jul 19, 2009

• #50

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Stoner moaning about his rear tyre, looked like he out braked and ran on the dirty part of the track to me, maybe he ran over some puke jk.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Frizzle @ Jul 19 2009, 08:10 AM)
Geez even cops it for just looking at the rear tyre. Why aren't we sticking it to Dovi?
Same dipshit fans time & time again. We got a great race on a track that doesn't always produce close racing. But lets rider bash instead hey?

where am i bashing stoner ? i just pointed out facts ! jesus h christ you big girls blouse

 

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frizzle

Joined Sep 2007

1K Posts | 24+

Melbourne

• Jul 19, 2009

• #51

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 19 2009, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i got no problem mate. but he ran wide on to the dirty part of the track then looked at his rear on track then in the garage. ummm you tend to loose grip on the marbles casey

Why would i have a problem ? my 2 fav riders came 1st and second but i can understand why the casey apologists are pissy -28 pts.

I'm not pissy at all Rog. I just watched a terrific race.
Also take note I am not dissing any riders. Give it a try.

 

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chopperman

Joined Sep 2006

23K Posts | 3+

• Jul 19, 2009

• #52

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jul 19 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Do you realise how silly that comment is? Stoner made a mistake - wow get the noose now.
yeah he made a mistake that we all saw then tried to blame his tyre, thats the point ! whats your problem with us talking about that ?

 

jazkat

Joined Jun 2006

2K Posts | 20+

south wales UK

Discussion Starter
• Jul 19, 2009

• #53

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hawkdriver @ Jul 19 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Did you see the way Rossi was slamming the door on Jorge, I just don't understand why he doesn't race Rossi the way Rossi races him. Yeah he is fast and hungry but I want to see him become ruthless and in command. I just think Jorge is better than what he has done on the last few laps of the recent races, look at the lap times.


rossi has years of expierience... lorenzo is gettin closer and will beat him sometime soon, then they will be trading blows more regular.

 

MdubSTYLIE

Joined May 2009

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Shovel's Club

• Jul 19, 2009

• #54

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 19 2009, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>not at all.

he said we are happy because where always in front, where always improving and next sunday we will win the race.

+1 I think he enjoys the challenge. I have to say I couldn't stand this guy until about three weeks ago, but his attitude toward everything going on is turning me into a fan. I will admit, I really flipped on him when the yamaha video came out. "Why do I have to be yanitor? I no want to be yanitor."

 

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babelfish

Joined May 2006

3K Posts | 0+

• Jul 19, 2009

• #55

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hawkdriver @ Jul 19 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll probably get flamed for this but
I hope Lorenzo eventually learns how to shut the door on the people behind him, is it just me or are there team orders going on. I need to see some replays but I don't think he ran that line into that corner the entire race, maybe he was just being nice and giving Rossi plenty of room but all the other passes in this race were much tighter.

Rossi did a clean pass but used a very tight inside line. Therefore his is curve speed where way down and Lorenzo tried to answere imediatly by going around, but as he found out the turn is way to long for that.
Compared to the other passes in that turn Rossi took a much tighter line. That's what created the differences.
Being nice to Rossi and give him plenty of space turns into about 5cm, not metres.

 

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babelfish

Joined May 2006

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• Jul 19, 2009

• #56

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hawkdriver @ Jul 19 2009, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Did you see the way Rossi was slamming the door on Jorge, I just don't understand why he doesn't race Rossi the way Rossi races him. Yeah he is fast and hungry but I want to see him become ruthless and in command. I just think Jorge is better than what he has done on the last few laps of the recent races, look at the lap times.

It takes more than he can handle to be defencive AND fast. Rossi did his fastest lap on the last lap (as did Lorenzo) but that was with Rossi's silly tight line in corner 13. Any other rider trying that would probably be passed on the outside or into turn 14.
Generally it's very difficult to be defencive in motorcycling. It takes a real master to pull it off. Lorenzo just isn't quite there yet.

 

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chopperman

Joined Sep 2006

23K Posts | 3+

• Jul 19, 2009

• #57

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jul 19 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm not pissy at all Rog. I just watched a terrific race.
Also take note I am not dissing any riders. Give it a try.
Where did i dis him ? i said he moaned about his rear tyre, that was a FACT , not a dis but because i a rossi fan dare point it out you got pissy. why should we not comment on stoner ? w2hat because his fans dont like the truth being told !

ps your getting hammered in the cricket too

 

BarryMachine

Joined Jun 2007

10K Posts | 1K+

Norah Head

• Jul 19, 2009

• #58

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 19 2009, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>where am i bashing stoner ? i just pointed out facts ! jesus h christ you big girls blouse

the internets biggest sook calling someone else a big girls blouse

One things for sure Rog. you are a character

 

BarryMachine

Joined Jun 2007

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Norah Head

• Jul 19, 2009

• #59

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 19 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where did i dis him ? i said he moaned about his rear tyre, that was a FACT , not a dis but because i a rossi fan dare point it out you got pissy. why should we not comment on stoner ? w2hat because his fans dont like the truth being told !

ps your getting hammered in the cricket too

waaahhhh waahhhh waaaah

Dignity Rog.! try some dignity

 

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hawkdriver

Joined Feb 2009

1K Posts | 7+

New Orleans

• Jul 19, 2009

• #60

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 19 2009, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It takes more than he can handle to be defencive AND fast. Rossi did his fastest lap on the last lap (as did Lorenzo) but that was with Rossi's silly tight line in corner 13. Any other rider trying that would probably be passed on the outside or into turn 14.
Generally it's very difficult to be defencive in motorcycling. It takes a real master to pull it off. Lorenzo just isn't quite there yet.I hope this is the answer and Lorenzo is taking notes, I know Rossi is the GOAT but it just looks like Lorenzo is handing over the wins. When Rossi is in front he is putting a clinic on for Lorenzo on how not to get passed. I'm also kind of pissed that it's starting to look like another predictable season for MotoGP.