Round 4: Gran Premio Red Bull de España 2017

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I prefer to think that if he gets into a groove like 2012 he can go far. I don't agree the stars have to align for Dani to perform well, he just needs a bike he has confidence in.

And for that he needs a well balanced motorcycle ensuring feedback and power to ground. The problems last year in my opinion stemmed from the less sophisticated electronics requiring a longer motorcycle meaning weight transfer became an issue for Dani in particular as did loading the rear. This was exacerbated by the fact that the reversion to the Michelins meant that the rear does not sit as far forward on the swing arm as the Bridgestones. In the heat of Misano last year Dani could get away with a much softer compound than the other riders.

This is not to say that Dani is not a supremely talented rider, but his extremely light weight has been overall to his detriment in recent years.

My favourite Pedro races were Sachsenring 2006, the battle with Lorenzo at Brno in 2010 I think it was when he switched map to lessen TC mid race to get more drive and Aragon 2015 when he rode like a devil.

His possible resurgence? Perhaps it's the Sete effect.
 
::clears throat for my best Jumkie impersonation::

Dorna & HRC/Repsol (The Spanish Mafia) have once again teamed up with Michelin to cripple the factory Yamaha bikes with bad tires. They expect us to believe that all of a sudden the Repsol bikes have near unlimited grip on hot track and while the factory M1's are riding on ice and there's no foul play involved? The playing field isn't level folks, the deck has been stacked for HRC since they have clearly made a very substantial investment in Michelin. Buy some Michelin stock now if you also want a piece of the pie.

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Maverick Viñales believes an issue with his front tyre was the reason behind a lacklustre showing at Jerez, and enigmatically stated he would “get an email” if he fully expanded on the issue.

The 22-year old crashed out of the third race in Austin due to what he believed to be an issue with a front tyre. At Jerez, Viñales encountered “the same problem” from the start, leaving him sixth at the chequered flag, a puzzling 24s behind race winner Dani Pedrosa. The front “was a disaster” when braking, he said.

Viñales also suggested he had received a warning from Michelin in the wake of his post-race comments in Austin, saying he could “not say something” without receiving some form of retribution in the future.

“Today was really difficult," he began. "Such a good feeling in the warm up, I was feeling I can do this, I can start and go with Dani and Marc, and fight until the end. But in the race I have no feeling in the front, already from the first lap, when I have the moment with [Andrea] Iannone [at turn 13].


“And then all the braking points on the right side and all the right hand corners, I was really slow. I nearly crashed two or three times in corner eleven. Then, as I said, I tried to bring home maximum points, try to close the gap with the leader in the championship, and that was my target. Very strange.

“Normally we are very good in fast corners, and Dovizioso was going away in the fast corners. I was happy that my team was very good this morning and made a good set up. Because this morning we were really fast, constant, and the grip on the rear was really good for all the race.

“So my problem was in the front, on the right side. This morning was perfect. Something we didn't understand and we have to work. I know that we crashed in Austin for the same problem, but today I had the luck that I was not so fast as Austin, I had some riders in front, so I could not push at 100%. That's why today I saved the crashes.”

When pressed on the cause of these issues with the front, he said, “I cannot tell the truth. Finally… difficult. I cannot say nothing. Finally, if you say something, you get an email. So you cannot say something about this.

“What I say is that in the morning I was feeling really good, everyone can see that my lap times were really constant. Good on the line, good on the braking points.”

“This afternoon was totally different and a disaster on the braking point. I was braking 30 meters earlier than this morning. Finally … I don't know … we are losing so many points and it was I think not our fault.

So the fault was with Michelin? “I cannot tell you,” he said.

Viñales' comments were a contrast to his complaints on Saturday, a day when he described excessive spinning when applying the throttle through Jerez's left corners. Overnight set-up changes had cured his issues on the rear, he said, only for the issues with the front to materialise in the race.

“This morning with the medium, compared to FP4 we were improving the bike so much. We improved the bike so much, I was feeling OK, I can go for the win. Because I was feeling great on the bike, still I felt I could push a little bit more.

“But then on the race, I had good grip on the rear, but impossible to ride the bike in the front.”

Despite his difficulties in Andalusia, Viñales narrowed his championship deficit to Valentino Rossi to two points.
Read more at MotoGP News - MotoGP Spain: Vinales: I crashed in Austin with same problem
 
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I prefer to think that if he gets into a groove like 2012 he can go far. I don't agree the stars have to align for Dani to perform well, he just needs a bike he has confidence in.

That's just it, Dani's comfort zone is razor thin. You can't find the magic set up in the practice time allotted on a very imperfect machine, race in race out. The Champions are the ones who can take a bike not working at optimum and consistently win or always be on the podium under all conditions. This happens a couple of times a year for Pedrosa when his crew nails the setup and the weather is perfect and allows him to chose softer tires. When all this happens, he is in the wind. Would love to see him get a title before he is done but he will have to change his entire philosophy to racing
 
::clears throat for my best Jumkie impersonation::

Dorna & HRC/Repsol (The Spanish Mafia) have once again teamed up with Michelin to cripple the factory Yamaha bikes with bad tires. They expect us to believe that all of a sudden the Repsol bikes have near unlimited grip on hot track and while the factory M1's are riding on ice and there's no foul play involved? The playing field isn't level folks, the deck has been stacked for HRC since they have clearly made a very substantial investment in Michelin. Buy some Michelin stock now if you also want a piece of the pie.

75PWGjS.jpg

::clears throat for my best Jumkie impersonation::

Dorna & HRC/Repsol (The Spanish Mafia) have once again teamed up with Michelin to cripple the factory Yamaha bikes with bad tires. They expect us to believe that all of a sudden the Repsol bikes have near unlimited grip on hot track and while the factory M1's are riding on ice and there's no foul play involved? The playing field isn't level folks, the deck has been stacked for HRC since they have clearly made a very substantial investment in Michelin. Buy some Michelin stock now if you also want a piece of the pie.

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I would say he will get the memo on what constitutes breach of contract, plus it's more probable a flaw in the chassis has reared its head on this particular track,more so than the insinuation he got a .... tire and some kind of retribution might be in play.
 
I would say he will get the memo on what constitutes breach of contract, plus it's more probable a flaw in the chassis has reared its head on this particular track,more so than the insinuation he got a .... tire and some kind of retribution might be in play.

What do we have here? A random internet poster thinks he knows about issues with the M1 than Maverick Vinales.
 
I prefer to think that if he gets into a groove like 2012 he can go far. I don't agree the stars have to align for Dani to perform well, he just needs a bike he has confidence in.

And which bike pray tell, would that be? Has he not been riding a full factory Honda since 2006? Is his crew amateurish? Did not Honda tailor the 2007 RCV to suit Dani? Has he insufficient experience with the bike? In what manner is the bike deficient?

I'm not asking because he sucks. The guy is talented no doubt. He just doesn't have the physical stature required for getting heat into tires designed around riders of the median weight range and for the same reason, cannot late brake the way his main competitors do - hence his classic modus operandi being, get the hole shot and take off like a skinned rabbit. People always say he can't scrap because he doesn't have heart. ......... Any guy who's been through all the crap and the injuries and the endless surgeries he's endured - has heart to spare. But that inability to fully capitalize on the front tire really limits his ability to duel.
 
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What do we have here? A random internet poster thinks he knows about issues with the M1 than Maverick Vinales.

You and Povol. Apples and oranges. He only offers an opinion. You state opinions as "facts". Offer up a counter point, Povol addresses it directly. Offer you a counterpoint, you either ignore it, insult the poster or change the subject.
 
You and Povol. Apples and oranges. He only offers an opinion. You state opinions as "facts". Offer up a counter point, Povol addresses it directly. Offer you a counterpoint, you either ignore it, insult the poster or change the subject.

This guy is my one-man fan club, his only posts are in relation to me. Walter, get off your ass and go get me some new members!
 
For those that have video pass, there is an incredible video of Zarco onboard in the first few laps when he was making moves. This vid really shows the performance of these machines and one in particular that is hooked up.
 
::clears throat for my best Jumkie impersonation::

Dorna & HRC/Repsol (The Spanish Mafia) have once again teamed up with Michelin to cripple the factory Yamaha bikes with bad tires. They expect us to believe that all of a sudden the Repsol bikes have near unlimited grip on hot track and while the factory M1's are riding on ice and there's no foul play involved? The playing field isn't level folks, the deck has been stacked for HRC since they have clearly made a very substantial investment in Michelin. Buy some Michelin stock now if you also want a piece of the pie.

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So you are finally getting on board with what has beeen obvious to most, that the Michelin tyres are substandard in the first place, and probably have batch variation in addition?.

I for one argued last year that the Michelin front was to blame for uncharacteristic front end loses for both Rossi and Lorenzo.
 
Just watched the race this morning, great race congratulations to Dani, he rode a flawless race well deserved and also to Jorge, fantastic to see him on the podium and the confidence boost that goes with it, really happy for him.

Jack Miller pushing Alvaro over after they crashed had me pissing myself laughing. What happened to the factory Yamaha's ??? They really seemed to be struggling from the start and got worse towards the end .. Zarco (and Folger) really showed them up.
 
Just watched the race this morning, great race congratulations to Dani, he rode a flawless race well deserved and also to Jorge, fantastic to see him on the podium and the confidence boost that goes with it, really happy for him.

Jack Miller pushing Alvaro over after they crashed had me pissing myself laughing. What happened to the factory Yamaha's ??? They really seemed to be struggling from the start and got worse towards the end .. Zarco (and Folger) really showed them up.

It amazes me that Aussies dont play hockey. They'd be so good at the fight part
 

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