MotoGP: 2015 Round 17 - Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix (SPOILERS)

moto vudu said:

People are wrongly penalized all the time. Rossi got a penalty because of how bad the incident looked. You have one rider running another wide and then the rider that was run wide went down. It's not until you really look at the incident closely that you can see that Rossi did nothing more, but take a wider line while adjusting his speed to prevent Marc from turning into the corner. Ok, ROSSI IS GUILTY OF BLOCKING MARC. But his guilt in there! Stop saying he HIT Marc. If Rossi went down after Marc turned into him you wouldn't give a .....

Look at it this way, Rossi's driving on a freeway and Marc is on an entrance ramp. Rossi refuses to change lanes, speed up, or slow down to allow Marc to merge. Marc decides he's not going to slow down and merge behind Rossi so he sideswipes Rossi, but ends up spinning out off the road. So yeah, Rossi's an ....... for blocking Marc, but ultimately it was Marc that decided to make contact... problem is he got the worst of the contact.

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You're frankly ....... delusional.

Paragraph two is a terrible analogy since this is not taking place on public roads. Such a dumb ....... moron.

Frack said:

Lets not forget that Rossi did this in light of him being the rider who killed Simoncelli ....on this very track.

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THIS IS THE MOST DISGUSTING COMMENT I EVER READ -- YOU ARE AN IMMENSE PILE OF ...., A ....... ..... WHO MAKES THE MOST STUPID FANS OF VALENTINO ROSSI LOOK LIKE GENTLEMEN IN COMPARISON. GO BACK TO THE SEWAGE DRAINS YOU CAME FROM, YOU RAT.

JPSLotus said:

Actually I think what Frack is saying, is that given Rossi had front row seats to his friend being killed, you would think he would have more respect for other riders given how quickly something can change. Instead he chooses to make a stand against Marc Marquez at Sepang International Circuit of all places, and puts MM at risk as a result.

What it tells you is that VR has learned precisely nothing about the virtue of clean racing.

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40mph corner at full racing speed, which neither of them were doing. 70ft of tarmac run-off.

Your comment of Rossi being a "nutcase" and "believing his own hype" was in answer to Frack's comment on MS58s death, which is why I quoted you both.

Even if you believe that Rossi deserves being classified as such for Jerez 2005, LS 2007 etc., Sepang 2011 was not one of those times.

JPSLotus said:

You're frankly ....... delusional.

Paragraph two is a terrible analogy since this is not taking place on public roads. Such a dumb ....... moron.

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I had a strong feeling you wouldn't be able to follow along with that analogy, but after that feeling the next thing I felt was a sense of not giving a .....

I believe this is the way some want the starting grid to look ............ only championship contenders allowed

Gaz said:

I believe this is the way some want the starting grid to look ............ only championship contenders allowed

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Well, the other riders can race... but on a 20 second delay!

moto vudu said:

Well, the other riders can race... but on a 20 second delay!

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Don't start

That was a serious suggestion I have read in two other forums

moto vudu said:

I had a strong feeling you wouldn't be able to follow along with that analogy, but after that feeling the next thing I felt was a sense of not giving a .....

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Your analogy was terrible. I don't even feel like dissecting the rank stupidity involved in it.

I've come to expect nothing less from you though.

Post after post of babbling .........

Gaz said:

I believe this is the way some want the starting grid to look ............ only championship contenders allowed

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Only the Yellow Army (TM). Real racing fans don't.

JPSLotus said:

Your analogy was terrible. I don't even feel like dissecting the rank stupidity involved in it.

I've come to expect nothing less from you though.

Post after post of babbling .........

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Lol, I hope kids are not planning on Trick or Treating at your house... you're one angry dude. :furious:

yamaka46 said:

40mph corner at full racing speed, which neither of them were doing. 70ft of tarmac run-off.

Your comment of Rossi being a "nutcase" and "believing his own hype" was in answer to Frack's comment on MS58s death, which is why I quoted you both.

Even if you believe that Rossi deserves being classified as such for Jerez 2005, LS 2007 etc., Sepang 2011 was not one of those times.

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Rossi does believe in his own myth that he is untouchable.

Simoncelli thought the same thing.

Do you need to rewatch the press conference with Jorge Lorenzo again where he said as much, and Marco pretty much laughed it off?

Rossi put Casey Stoner at a huge risk at Laguna 08 with that dumb ....... .... he did there at high speeds.

Trying to minimize this because it didn't happen at a higher speed is ludicrous.

moto vudu said:

Lol, I hope kids are not planning on Trick or Treating at your house... you're one angry dude. :furious:

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I dislike stupid people.

You are stupid

Therefore I dislike you.

JPSLotus said:

I dislike stupid people.

You are stupid

Therefore I dislike you.

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Says the guy that still thinks Rossi punted Marc.

Good read from Krop.. i agree they're all ........ lol
https://m.motomatters.com/analysis/2015/10/27/2015_sepang_motogp_round_up_heroes_who_h.html

Frack said:

Do you think Kesh will ever realize practically noone responds to or likes his posts

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Actually, I like his posts. Signed up just to 'like' them. Much more objective than the MM lovers in here.

moto vudu said:

Says the guy that still thinks Rossi punted Marc.

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yawn

moto vudu said:

My 2 cents...

Marc's primary goal at PI was to prevent Rossi from racing with Lorenzo. To Marc's surprise, Lorenzo wasn't as strong as he has been in the past and never pulled a big gap. Marc could see Lorenzo was still within striking distance the entire time he was toying with Rossi. Once he was satisfied he had prevented Rossi from catching Lorenzo, he decided he would show Lorenzo he is faster and ran him down for the victory. See, I don't think Marc and Jorge are working together, just that Marc prefers Jorge to win the title. So Marc beating Jorge was just to let him know "I'm still faster than you, don't forget that). It's all EGO.

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Yes possibly but I think HRC would have been seriously pissed if he didn't at least go for it. Marquez did lead the race for 3+ laps past the mid point so the team were aware he had the pace to win. A bad last lap for JL, almost 1/2 second slower than his previous 2 laps and MM laying down his fastest of the race sealed it, on a race worn tire I might add. MM was toying with the field at will. Those who think otherwise need to watch the race again.

I enjoy your posts, provides a desperately needed balance. Keep posting.

JPSLotus said:

Rossi does believe in his own myth that he is untouchable.

Simoncelli thought the same thing.

Do you need to rewatch the press conference with Jorge Lorenzo again where he said as much, when Marco pretty much laughed it off?

Rossi put Casey Stoner at a huge risk at Laguna 08 with that dumb ....... .... he did there at high speeds.

Trying to minimize this because it didn't happen at a higher speed is ludicrous.

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I have not posted anything to try to "minimise" the Sepang incident, on this or other fora, other than this one post to you and Frack in regards to comparing the incident to Simoncelli's death, which was a frankly disgusting touch IMHO.

Jumkie talks in hyperbole all the time (hopefully for comedic effect ) so for him to refer to the Sepang incident as "attempted murder" was more hyperbole, I am assuming. I have seen nothing to imply otherwise.

Talking of times one rider put another at risk and then attempting to pretend that Rossi has a significantly worse record than Lorenzo, Marques et al is being disengenious.

Stating that MS58 died due to "a belief in his own myth" and that this incident was in any way similar shows a major lack of understanding about anything, let alone racing. Marco "laughing it off" in that press conference, whilst poigniant, is irrelevant to this discussion. I certainly do not need to watch it again.

This incident did happen at sub-40mph with a 70ft run-off, so attempting to conflate it with more serious high speed incidents (in which all 3 protagonists have been involved at some point in their careers) is ludicrous.

JPSLotus said:

I dislike stupid people.

You are stupid

Therefore I dislike you.

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Is this all you can do, just personal attacks and profanity? Why can't you accept some people may have an opposing view to your hateful tirades?

There is such BS being spoken on behalf of Rossi.

Rossi is a great, fabulous rider but he is only as good as those few riders that have the courage to stand up to him and his mind games and antics.

Gibernau, Hayden, Stoner and Lorenzo. When all the commentators are praising Rossi in previous times, if he dominated every championship, no one would tune in to watch. Just like this years F1 has been more boring than ever.

Philip Island was a wonderful race full of glorious exciting action, yet because it didn't go Vale's way it's now meant to be classified as a fix? If MM was helping Lorenzo, why did he win?

Have we all succumbed to a state of delusion that if you don't immediately concede to Rossi, you are unfairly working against him?

In Sepang, VR and MM were fairly trading places with an equal amount of competitive aggression displayed by both parties. If VR couldn't handle the pressure, it's not his role to slow MM down for his own good. If you don't want to battle with him, then just let MM pass and speed off into the distance.

If you want to take a wide corner, then you do that but you don't keep eyeballing the guy to show him that you are running him deliberately wide.

And the punishment or sorry, response from the race director is ridiculous. Rossi will have passed half of the grid by the first lap through greater talent, machinery and as some moron on here declared 'the unwritten rule that you don't interfere with a championship'. And then what do you know, Rossi will overtake the others, everyone will hail his greatness in over taking the field and completely forget about his outrageous behaviour that put him at the back but should really have seen him disqualified.

When traversties like this happen and are swept under the carpet, is it any wonder that we begin to question the integrity of those running the show?